Wednesday, October 21st 2020

AMD Radeon RX 6000 Series Specs Leak: RX 6900 XT, RX 6800 XT, RX 6700 Series

AMD's Radeon RX 6000 series graphics cards, based on the RDNA2 graphics architecture, will see the introduction of the company's first DirectX 12 Ultimate graphics cards (featuring features such as real-time raytracing). A VideoCardz report sheds light on the specifications. The 7 nm "Navi 21" and "Navi 22" chips will power the top-end of the lineup. The flagship part is the Radeon RX 6900 XT, followed by the RX 6800 XT and RX 6800; which are all based on the "Navi 21." These are followed by the RX 6700 XT and RX 6700, which are based on the "Navi 22" silicon.

The "Navi 21" silicon physically features 80 RDNA2 compute units, working out to 5,120 stream processors. The RX 6900 XT maxes the chip out, enabling all 80 CUs, and is internally referred to as the "Navi 21 XTX." Besides these, the RX 6900 XT features 16 GB of GDDR6 memory across a 256-bit wide memory interface, and engine clocks boosting beyond 2.30 GHz. The next SKU in AMD's product stack is the RX 6800 XT (Navi 21 XT), featuring 72 out of 80 CUs, working out to 4,608 stream processors, the same 16 GB 256-bit GDDR6 memory configuration as the flagship, while its engine clocks go up to 2.25 GHz.
A notch below the RX 6800 XT is the RX 6800 (Navi 21 XL), which cuts down the "Navi 21" further, giving it 64 compute units or 4,096 stream processors; the very same 16 GB of 256-bit GDDR6 memory interface, and up to 2.15 GHz engine clocks. The RX 6900 XT, along with the RX 6800 series, will be announced in the October 28 presser.

The next chip AMD is designing is the 7 nm "Navi 22" silicon, which features 40 compute units. On paper, this count looks similar to that of the "Navi 10," and it remains to be seen if this is a re-badge or a new silicon based on RDNA2. The RX 6700 XT maxes this chip out, featuring 40 CUs or 2,560 stream processors; while the RX 6700 features fewer CUs (possibly 36). The interesting thing about these two is their memory configuration—12 GB of 192-bit GDDR6.
Source: VideoCardz
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191 Comments on AMD Radeon RX 6000 Series Specs Leak: RX 6900 XT, RX 6800 XT, RX 6700 Series

#176
dragontamer5788
goodeedididNo GDDR6X? I guess this isn't going to really be on par as the 3080 as some people were assuming.
This comment didn't age well...

It happens to all of us, lol. I still don't understand how the 6900 XT can keep up with the 3090 with such a memory disadvantage. I get that the 128MB cache is helping, but... how?
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#177
dir_d
dragontamer5788This comment didn't age well...

It happens to all of us, lol. I still don't understand how the 6900 XT can keep up with the 3090 with such a memory disadvantage. I get that the 128MB cache is helping, but... how?
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#178
Crustybeaver
Vya DomusIt will be funny to see a 3080 "ti" that's 5-8% faster.

Reality check, Nvidia probably didn't plan to use GA102 for the 3080 but rather a fully enabled GA104 like they always did which could have made room for a 3080ti. For some unknown reason (let's leave it at that for the time being) they decided GA104 wasn't enough so the whole stack got pushed up. There is no room for "ti" variants, or at least not for any that would matter. There is potential room for a 3070ti but that's because they disabled more SMs than usual, the 3070 was meant to be the 3080 and 3090 the Titan.
So if it's 5-8% faster doesn't that make it faster than the 6800XT and competitive with the 6900XT?
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#179
Nater
dragontamer5788I still don't understand how the 6900 XT can keep up with the 3090 with such a memory disadvantage. I get that the 128MB cache is helping, but... how?
Isn't that what the Infinity Cache is all about? You do mean memory speed right, not capacity? (16GB vs 24GB)
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#180
dragontamer5788
NaterIsn't that what the Infinity Cache is all about? You do mean memory speed right, not capacity? (16GB vs 24GB)
Bandwidth specifically, yeah.

The 128MB cache must be waaaayyyyy faster, to make up for the overall lower bandwidth to main VRAM.
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#181
medi01
CrustybeaverSo if it's 5-8% faster doesn't that make it faster than the 6800XT and competitive with the 6900XT?
It makes it competitive with 3090 which is about 10% faster 3080, lol.
But then it only has 10GB VRAM.

And do you want to talk about availability of cards that aren't available EVEN FOR PRE-ORDER (at announced price)?

2080Ti MSRP was $999, ya know. On paper.
dragontamer5788The 128MB cache must be waaaayyyyy faster, to make up for the overall lower bandwidth to main VRAM.
Cool part is that this cache bit is from Zen 3 development.
AMD's GPU-CPU synergy starts to pay off.

They jumped from being behind on using bandwidth effectively to trouncing NV.
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#182
Crustybeaver
medi01It makes it competitive with 3090 which is about 10% faster 3080, lol.
But then it only has 10GB VRAM.

And do you want to talk about availability of cards that aren't available EVEN FOR PRE-ORDER (at announced price)?

2080Ti MSRP was $999, ya know. On paper.
My post was in reference to the proposed 3080Ti, how can you talk about availability when it's at the rumour stage? Based on the 6900XT being $999 it would be safe to assume that the 3080Ti would be a direct competitor to this in both price and perf.
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#183
medi01
CrustybeaverMy post was in reference to the proposed 3080Ti, how can you talk about availability when it's at the rumour stage?
It is GA102 based, remind me about availability of those chips...
Gap between 3090 and 3080 is 10%, how does one fit glorious 3080Ti into it.

Ampere is DOA, non-redeemable. Only FUD to save face:

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#184
Camm
medi01Gap between 3090 and 3080 is 10%, how does one fit glorious 3080Ti into it.
You kinda aren't, you shave off a meaningless amount of cores, halve the RAM, wallah, you have your "3080 Ti".
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#185
Nater
I expect the market to adjust. You'll see the 6900XT (if there's AIB cards released) shoot up to $1200 or so initially, while the 3090 will drop a couple hundred. Otherwise is REALLY is a niche product for the creator/gamers.
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#186
Crustybeaver
medi01It is GA102 based, remind me about availability of those chips...
My guess is that 6900XT will sell out and as there's no announcement of AIB cards wouldn't be surprised to see cards hit crazy aftermarket prices. Whether it be a 3080, 3090, 3080Ti or 6900XT, who knows maybe even the 6800XT, think the availability is going to be scarce for the next six to twelve months
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#187
EarthDog
WeeRabcrash-to-desktop, bug-ridden Nvidia cards.
You're aware this was fixed with a driver BEFORE your post, right? Get a clue, dude. Your posts are full of outdated or just plain wrong information. :(
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#188
Punkenjoy
Zach_01It is said that AMD architecture would not have dedicated units for RTRT and DLSS equivalent, but will implement those inside the ”regular” pipeline. We really don’t know if and how that is increasing transistor count for the GPU as the nVidia architecture does.

Personally I do believe that it will have a large cache, more than 100MB, to compensate the narrow bandwidth.
seem you were right :)
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#189
Super XP
mrjayviperIs the 6700xt the spiritual successor to the 5700xt?

Thanks
Now that AMD officially announced the 6800, 6800XT & 6900's, yes the 6700XT should be the successor to the 5700XT because we now know the 6800XT is the Big Navi everyone was talking about.
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#190
goodeedidid
dragontamer5788This comment didn't age well...

It happens to all of us, lol. I still don't understand how the 6900 XT can keep up with the 3090 with such a memory disadvantage. I get that the 128MB cache is helping, but... how?
Let's first see real-world usages and don't base our opinions on in-house spec-sheets.. ;)
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#191
Gmr_Chick
I'm itching to see some news about the 6700's. When it finally drops and the reviews are good, I'm saying bye bye to my 1660 Super :D
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