Tuesday, November 3rd 2020
NVIDIA Reportedly Delays RTX 3060 Ti Launch to December
NVIDIA has reportedly delayed the launch of its GeForce RTX 3060 Ti performance-segment graphics card from mid-November to early-December, 2020. The RTX 3060 Ti is expected to be positioned a notch below the $500 RTX 3070, and based on the same 8 nm "GA104" silicon with 38 out of 48 streaming multiprocessors of the silicon enabled, amounting to 4,864 CUDA cores. The card is expected to come with the same exact memory setup as the RTX 3070, with 8 GB of 14 Gbps GDDR6 memory across a 256-bit wide bus. Besides a lighter core-configuration, the RTX 3060 Ti is expected to target a typical board power metric of 180 W, enabling designs with single 8-pin PCIe power connectors. Expreview, which broke the story on the launch delay predicts that the RTX 3060 Ti could perform similar to the RTX 2080 Super, a $700 high-end graphics card from the previous generation.
As for the delay, the RTX 3060 Ti was originally slated to be announced on November 17, but has its launch date pushed by two weeks, down to December 2. The reasons behind the delay could be anything from inventory building, to last-minute SKU optimization in the wake of AMD's Radeon RX 6000 series SKUs. Even the cheapest of the RX 6000-series SKUs announced so far, the RX 6800, is priced higher than the RTX 3070, and AMD claims higher performance than the RTX 2080 Ti (i.e. the card trades blows with the RTX 3070), which means the NVIDIA product stack could see many updates in the coming couple of months, some of which could even miss Holiday 2020 sales.
Sources:
Expreview, momomo_us (Twitter), VideoCardz
As for the delay, the RTX 3060 Ti was originally slated to be announced on November 17, but has its launch date pushed by two weeks, down to December 2. The reasons behind the delay could be anything from inventory building, to last-minute SKU optimization in the wake of AMD's Radeon RX 6000 series SKUs. Even the cheapest of the RX 6000-series SKUs announced so far, the RX 6800, is priced higher than the RTX 3070, and AMD claims higher performance than the RTX 2080 Ti (i.e. the card trades blows with the RTX 3070), which means the NVIDIA product stack could see many updates in the coming couple of months, some of which could even miss Holiday 2020 sales.
15 Comments on NVIDIA Reportedly Delays RTX 3060 Ti Launch to December
They want to flog as many 3070 as they can before releasing 3060Ti at a lower price point.
When AMD wasn't releasing RX6600/6700 this year Huang popped the champagne and celebrated.
I am really surprised they even consider releasing 3060Ti before x-mas BUT without RX6600/6700 there is no competition so why not.
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Last minute optimization?
3060Ti is basically a carbon copy of the 3070 design so not much to do there.
The only thing they can optimize is the drivers
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Also why AMD is NOT releasing the RX 6600 and/or RX 6700 series before x-mas is a conundrum to me.
They are in a position to decimate 3060 and 3060Ti before they even hit the market, also put a big dent in to 3070 sales.
Sales before x-mas this year is at insane record levels and not to be apart of 3060/3060Ti segment will hurt AMD's sales.
Since there have been such a massive spike i GFX card sales before x-mas this year we will see an massive drop in GFX sales in Q1, what goes up must come down.
Guess somebody needs to tell this - I'm interested *only* in rasterization (for a next couple of years, at least) and good 1440p performance.
'RTRT' (why, oh why this complete lie is used) is at least 5 years away to be what is should be.
4k is a general insanity, that 'node' should've never become the next step after QHD, we need(ed) at least one inbetween. QHD is ~75% more pixels (or speed) compared with FHD, steps like FHD+50% (both axis) gets us to +125%, FHD+75% is +200%, while 4k is +300%. Having more 'rational' displays resolutions would've created more natural increase in power needed.
Gamers, who recently set a new record with being able to see 14x more frames than normal human beings and are in dire need for 360Hz displays, also needing to eliminate certain blue light spectrum parts - this essentially confirms my theory that most successful gamers are actually cats and dogs - are probably the only ones able to make visual difference between 25% faster rendering of FHD+75% and FHD+100% (4k).
What's worse, plainly moronic ideas such as 8k as the next step are being served, and none questions them. Yup, I saw Linus (from Tech Tips) playing 8k on 80" (and 30,000g) TV, I do believe it's quite good - except the price is...
Oh, one more thing - whatever people see on YouTube isn't in any way representative how it will look like in real life - it's much worse, because almost everything uses x.264 compression (which is a codec I like very much, and it was very good in its days, but is ages old) - using it as any meter of quality representation is impossible, and nobody should take it seriously. Uncompressed images are another thing.
Rant is over, I am intrigued with 3060 Ti and what it will bring for a price, though I probably won't end in buying it...
Note that the most popular AMD cards on major German "online discounter" mindfactory were 5700 series and not what one would expect.
In case TSMC is at maximum capacity it makes sense to produce more of a high end, higher margin cards.
It becomes the only sensible move given woes that Nvidia CEO brought upon the company: it is the perfect market grabbing time.
If unconnected to work cards are in question, I (actually done many test an individual can do and therefore) believe that what specific person sees with his own eyes on his setup at home is the only viable reason for using specific resolution/refresh/colour-gamut etc... Therefore, based on my eyesight and gaming preference (and mentioned testing, not just plain eyesight - to a limit I tested a comparison of colour channels and stuff like that; also AA degree influence on rendered images at work) - anyway, I concluded that 'Ultra' setting doesn't mean much or even anything to my gaming experience, compared to the next best. The performance difference can be huge, though.
Since a complete list goes quite long way (since CGA), I'll say that I currently have RX580 8Gb - bought it in a very good time, just before mine-crazy and brand new. Yes, another important point influencing my buying is avoiding 'feeling like an idiot', meaning paying too much for any reason - if the price/performance wasn't ok, I would probably buy something else.
Anyway, I'm likely not the best example - I used to replace or upgrade the whole computer if I needed it for something special (happened for Morrowind), or having several years old hardware. But I tend to stay informed on prices all the time, in case that need arise or stocks are emptied, stuff like that.
Right now (because I bought 1440p monitor meanwhile, but nothing I played since actually needed better GPU), I would buy something like RX5600/5700 in performance - at something like ~200g in price and otherwise nothing. The thing that 'mid-range' become dangerously near 500g annoys me greatly. I want it back at <200g...
RT doesn't interest me at all, because I was in that business for a very long time and... it can't be done properly right now at all, and it will always be rasterization OR RT, not hybrid solution where some CUs doing either RT or nothing, and the rest do rasterization... When the number of games that actually use RT increases and include titles which I need/like to have it - I'll reconsider viewpoint again...
Since there is ALOT of misunderstanding regarding what GPU sellers (NVIDIA especially, AMD has *that One True Slide* - namely one which says 'partial RT -> next gen full RT aided by cloud computing') - well, since all that and my work history I wanted to write a comprehensive article on RT in general and implementation by GPU makers - obviously nothing until it's revealed how AMD is going to implement it, that is very unclear still - but my time is scarce these days... World went mad...
Anyhow, when gaming is in question I play mostly strategies and some older titles that keep me occupied for years - and no First Person stuff at all. My needs are quite modest right now.