Friday, April 16th 2021
Intel 11th Gen "Rocket Lake" Pricing Already Going Down on Amazon
Prices of retail 11th Gen Intel Core "Rocket Lake" desktop processors are beginning to settle down close to the "1,000-unit tray" prices on Amazon (US). The 1K-unit tray prices have traditionally served as a de facto baseline for retail prices, and as of today (April 16), we see several SKUs popular with gamers and PC enthusiasts approach levels close to the baseline. This wouldn't strictly be a price-cut, since they are still higher than the baseline, but would be a trimming of the retailer mark-ups traditionally attached to new processor launches.
As of this writing, the retail Core i7-11700K is listed on Amazon (US) for USD $404, practically identical to the $399 1K-unit tray price. The i7-11700 (non-K) can be had for $339.99, very close to the $323.99 tray price. The Core i5-11600K is going for $264.99, which is almost identical to the $262 tray price. Lesser "locked" SKUs such as the i5-11500 are within $10-15 of their tray pricing. It's only the top-dog Core i9-11900K and i9-11900KF that remain heavily marked up by sellers on Amazon. At these prices, the 11th Gen Core processors are expected to apply pressure on sellers of AMD Ryzen 5000 series processors to review the prices of SKUs such as the Ryzen 7 5800X and Ryzen 5 5600X; and on AMD to release cheaper Ryzen 5000 series SKUs in the retail channel.
As of this writing, the retail Core i7-11700K is listed on Amazon (US) for USD $404, practically identical to the $399 1K-unit tray price. The i7-11700 (non-K) can be had for $339.99, very close to the $323.99 tray price. The Core i5-11600K is going for $264.99, which is almost identical to the $262 tray price. Lesser "locked" SKUs such as the i5-11500 are within $10-15 of their tray pricing. It's only the top-dog Core i9-11900K and i9-11900KF that remain heavily marked up by sellers on Amazon. At these prices, the 11th Gen Core processors are expected to apply pressure on sellers of AMD Ryzen 5000 series processors to review the prices of SKUs such as the Ryzen 7 5800X and Ryzen 5 5600X; and on AMD to release cheaper Ryzen 5000 series SKUs in the retail channel.
94 Comments on Intel 11th Gen "Rocket Lake" Pricing Already Going Down on Amazon
Z390 is quite popular on Amazon, and I think most people would be reluctant adopting new platform any further.
www.scan.co.uk/products/intel-core-i5-11400f-s-1200-rocket-lake-6-cores-12-threads-26ghz-44ghz-turbo-12mb-cache-65w-retail
The most interesting parts of this generation are the 11400f and 11700f, not because they perform well, as the same complaints apply to them in regards to gaming performance, but rather because they are being sold at competitive prices that AMD has just decided to up and abandon. You can buy a 11400f, B560 motherboard, and some of your memory for the price of a 5600x, assuming the 5600x isnt being scalped. Granted the only reason you can OC memory on B560 is thanks to AMD, but still that doesnt change the fact AMD has left budget users high and dry. Not saying its right or wrong either, just that it is.
Especially given the price cuts on the 10th series, the 10850k is only $380. The 10900f is only $348, only 18 more then a 11700. And you get 2 mroe cores. The 11th gen is a total dud from a value standpoint, and its performance doesnt justify it.
Unlike many, I dont see alder lake fixing anything. Shoving atom cores into a desktop design isnt going to fix the performance gap, and zen 4 threatens to widen it significantly.
www.scan.co.uk/products/amd-ryzen-9-5900x-am4-zen-3-12-core-24-thread-37ghz-48ghz-turbo-70mb-cache-pcie-40-105w-cpu
What your point anyway bringing Scan into Amazon threads?
10900F Pros
Higher multi-threaded performance
Cons
Higher platform cost
Higher cooling cost
Higher power draw
Higher product cost
No PCIe 4.0
Slower single thread outside of games
If you are using this CPU for professional work that requires the use of those cores you don't really want to be overclocking either. Trust me on that one, I've had overclocks on my 5820K that were 24 hour stress test stable that would causes issues once every month. Took forever to find the issue and fixed by removing the OC.
I feel like the 5900X is just the all round better choice for gaming / multi-thread. It'll be more expensive but it will also be significantly faster in multi-thread. If you are just gaming a 5600X is all you need.
I'm not sure why you've asked me this question whether you were being serious or not, because a couple of seconds on Google reveals the meaning of this term and it's kinda obvious anyway. Was there another point that you're trying to make?
It's an extraordinary day when you realize that despite having the Z490I Ultra's VRM, one of the strongest contenders last gen, this board probably struggles thermally with a power uncapped RKL 8-core judging from the even stronger Z590I Ultra's results. Despite the fact that both handle the 10900K just fine.
Hell would probably freeze over before Gigabyte gives me a B550 equivalent with Thunderbolt, because the Intel and AMD boards share nothing aside from the M.2 heatsink. Guess I'm waiting for the next upgrade cycle. Thanks for nothing, Intel.
Real eye-opener that there's about 1 SKU in the entire stack worth buying. Watched the store inventory counts when RKL released and for about a week, none of the SKUs budged. And I do mean *none*. People bitched about Comet Lake but still ended up buying them up in droves like 8th and 9th gen.
Pros
10 cores vs 6
Cost per core
Actual Cost in the Market
Guaranteed USB3 stability
Cons
MSRP
Heat
Power
PCIe 4
Pretty strange for someone to be talking about production systems preferring more cores when AMD can't even and hasn't even been for months ensuring USB stability while using that PCIe 4 that's so important in your list. Call me paranoid, but I wouldn't be buying into a platform that right now doesn't have production, final BIOS support for pristine USB device validation, either. I'd probably steer clear for a months to let everything shake out.
Not surprising 11 series was stupid priced out the gate.
I was referring more to the higher end RL CPUs which are somewhat lemons, just see the TPU reviews. Be careful what you assume people say. Clarify first.
As for the 5600X, if only AMD hadn't gone completely mental and priced a 6 core CPU at $300 in this day and age. And if only they could keep up their stock availability. Then the 10900F might actually be in trouble.