Thanks a lot for nothing, MSI. I already have an MSI GTX 1660 Ventus XS 6G OC from back in May 2019 (price then $229.99)! Trying real hard and assiduously - but, so far, spectacularly unsuccessfully - to upgrade to at least a 3060, but preferred a 3060Ti or a 3070 or an RT 6700, for under, say, $600 - $800. Thanks all you miners...scalpers...and you AIBs...and NVIDIA and AMD. too. I am patient....I will get someting eventually, but you have engendered actual disgust and hate from me forever. I will use you to get what I need, but I do NOT have to have love (or even respect) for all you folks who have treated us enthusiasts and gamers so poorly in this past year or so! OMHO. Thanks for the continuing good info and reviews, TechPowerUp.

And it couldn't even have been a GT1030.....

I don't understand this. There is no shortage of sub-$20 512MB-1GB graphics cards on the used market that will do the basic output dGPU job that the GT730 can do. Quadro NVS 300 512MB for $8 buy-it-now with free shipping? DirectX 11 support, OpenGL 3.0 support, WDM basic display driver compatibility - that is all the GT730 is good for anyway.

The GT 730 isn't fast enough to do anything other than basic video output. Once a card is obsolete for current 3D dGPU requirements, it almost doesn't matter how old or shit it is, as long as it works.

dennphillThanks a lot for nothing, MSI. I already have an MSI GTX 1660 Ventus XS 6G OC from back in May 2019 (price then $229.99)! Trying real hard and assiduously - but, so far, spectacularly unsuccessfully - to upgrade to at least a 3060, but preferred a 3060Ti or a 3070 or an RT 6700, for under, say, $600 - $800. Thanks all you miners...scalpers...and you AIBs...and NVIDIA and AMD. too. I am patient....I will get someting eventually, but you have engendered actual disgust and hate from me forever. I will use you to get what I need, but I do NOT have to have love (or even respect) for all you folks who have treated us enthusiasts and gamers so poorly in this past year or so! OMHO. Thanks for the continuing good info and reviews, TechPowerUp.

The 1660 will do you fine for a year or two more. You may have to tolerate 1080p and drop a few graphics settings down but as nice as pretty graphics are, graphics do not make a game.

I have a GTX970 3.5GB on standby in case one of my gaming rigs dies, and I feel sorry for people that don't even have something that fast.

Bomby569i gave up on upgrading my gpu, tired of F5 mashing. And i will not buy a single overpriced gpu, i prefer to stop gaming or just buying a PS5 first

If Nvidia and AMD can't give a rat's ass to putting the cards at MSRP in the hands of the gamers, so f themselves. Your greed will destroy yourselves in the end, i will not forget this.

You speak as if they could do something about GPU shortage. Whole world right now has various odd shortages and you expect nVidia or AMD to deliver cards like it's nothing and at right prices? Man, you can't be for real. And they don't scalp anything, it's random people like you scalp them. Again not a fault of nVidia or AMD.

They are giving 100 Terahashes worth of video cards to Ethereum mining each month, that is probably their total output. whatever happened with the promise to sell to individual people 2 cards max, not per order, per month or week, but per forever. And now is all going to migrate to autolykos or some other coin. there is no end to this. Just limit production to 3050Ti for a while. that is half GA104. at half the price, but no they had to go from high to low end, and sell to whoever offers to pay more for bigger shipments and make low output 400-600mm2 cores that very few people can afford anyway.

Last month I was fooling around with a GT 730 1G GDDR5 LP card that I purchased on this forum for cheap like $20 or something. I needed a backup LP card for display output, but being the tweaker I am, I had to see exactly what performance it was capable of and any overclocking headroom. At stock, it was a bit slower at folding than the IGP on my Ryzen 3 3200. It did overclock like crazy, not that it added much to performance, and it is definitely bandwidth bound as I got more performance out of the VRAM OC than the core when running 3D mark benches. Overall, do not buy this for gaming, but if you need an output card for like a Ryzen or Threadripper system without integrated graphics it will be fine. Do yourself a favor and if you need one, just get one on ebay for like $20.

AusWolfWhen I said I was waiting for a replacement for my low profile 1650, this isn't exactly what I had in mind.

"M.y S.illy I.deas" might end up being a new meme or moniker for MSI. With their logic, they could end all shortages by reverting us back to pre-industrial age technology. MSI would become "Mesopotamian Solutions Incorporated".

Super LHR should be hardware implemented, build in GPUs .
Not a LHR in the bios they can easily over pass that.
That way we all can go back to our normal days of buying video cards.

R9 290 for 80 or 100 $ = rx 570 perf

I think they meant, clearing out all the warehouses of old junk that no one wanted or needed in the first place.

Can this card play Pong on say an IBM 8513 monitor?

dennphillThanks a lot for nothing, MSI. I already have an MSI GTX 1660 Ventus XS 6G OC from back in May 2019 (price then $229.99)! Trying real hard and assiduously - but, so far, spectacularly unsuccessfully - to upgrade to at least a 3060, but preferred a 3060Ti or a 3070 or an RT 6700, for under, say, $600 - $800. Thanks all you miners...scalpers...and you AIBs...and NVIDIA and AMD. too. I am patient....I will get someting eventually, but you have engendered actual disgust and hate from me forever. I will use you to get what I need, but I do NOT have to have love (or even respect) for all you folks who have treated us enthusiasts and gamers so poorly in this past year or so! OMHO. Thanks for the continuing good info and reviews, TechPowerUp.

yeah they need to make botting (to buy cards) illegal's as well as selling above mrsp price with massive penalty's... 3-6 months in jail and massive fines.... no one should be making money off a billion dollar company whos making money with the seller(walmart/amazon/ect...) as yet another middle man.. kinda want the pres and congress to do that... but they are all super old ppl who dont play games.

i myself am looking to replace my 1070 from 2016 as i want to make my 2k monitor a secondary and buy a 4k main

New cards from 10 years ago?
I wonder when they start looting museums to get old barely usefull cards to sell at heavy overprices.

Like I've long said:
If you think rock bottom has been reached, there's always someone willing to start digging deeper.

simlifeyeah they need to make botting (to buy cards) illegal's as well as selling above mrsp price with massive penalty's... 3-6 months in jail and massive fines....

Jail costs too much...
Singaporean model would be lot cheaper.
Or at least make it medieval dungeon to be actual punishment.

Nvidia seemed to have turned into AMD and no new low end cards, I remember buying my GT 1030 for £30 new, a great card for the price. Where is also the gaming grade 3050 card?

This is an unmitigated catastrophe! Makes the criticism by one of the YouTubers of the first Atari version of Pacman, look like a minor thing, back in the early-1980s.

I just got tired of getting 'you weren't selected' from New Egg's Shuffles - lousy, always trying to bundle with unneeded and unwanted components when there was a GPU I wanted - and continually monitoring BB and B&H and AMD and Zotac and Amazon hoping to catch a 'drop. From the Amazon watching, I finally decided I needed to get on with my life and I bought a VERY over-priced PowerColor Red Devil RX 6700 XT for $1,029...and I should get it mid July. Crappy buy...don't need a $1K GPU (or really want one) and it's only from wasting a few weeks (or more!!!) that I finally decided to just get it. Now of course it's so friggin' big, I need to buy a new case for it to fit! And, of course, my 550W PSU os no longer sufficient. I am really ashamed to admit I spent so much. Last week on Tom's, I filled in a front page informal survey, saying I'd be willing to pay "10% over MSRP to buy a GPU." (Previously, I was always in the "would pay only MSRP" camp, and this was the first time I said I'd pay more than MSRP!) Now it seems this PowerColor 6700 XT card (according to VideoCardz) was released in May 2021 at an MSRP of $830...so I just paid about 24% over MSRP. I am a (an abject) failure. I won't go broke, but I am not happy. Just IAGIS. Stay safe and happy. Tough times, these.

This makes it seem more like "we need to clear out old stock" since NVidia is discontinuing Kepler support with their R470 driver.

gravelR9 290 for 80 or 100 $ = rx 570 perf

In my country its more like ~170 $ on one of the biggest second hand market, just checked now and the cheapest model cost that much and only a few listed for sale.
RX 570 4G goes for ~200-240 depending on the model, 470s aint much cheaper either.

But yea this is just sad in a way that a GT 730 is considered to be a 'saviour' by some companies and such.
Makes me feel less meh about still owning a rusty RX 570 huh.:laugh:

:D I'm using GT610 1TB

Oh boy, imagine someone telling you in December 2019 about events that will happen in the following couple of years...

Liquid CoolWhat happens next will kill demand worldwide.

To me it looks like crypto bubble was largely fueled by US "covid checks" largely (10% I was told) being spent on crypto gambling.

If so, that party will be over quite soon.

I also wonder, what time does it take for a 3080Ti that was bought for $2.2k to pay off for itself, at current pricing of cryptoLOLs.

RealKGBThis makes it seem more like "we need to clear out old stock" since NVidia is discontinuing Kepler support with their R470 driver.

Kepler will continue to be supported until 2024 according to nVidia. So not likely.

This feels more like nVidia bring back GK208 since it's 28nm and I don't think there is a massive demand on 28nm fabs right now.

Voodoo RufusAnd it couldn't even have been a GT1030.....

There are a lot of issues with bringing back the GT 1030 compared to GK208 cards. The GT 1030 is a 14nm card and only uses DDR5, both of which are in short supply right now. GK208 on the other hand is 28nm and can use DD3, which isn't in as short of supply.

newtekie1There are a lot of issues with bringing back the GT 1030 compared to GK208 cards. The GT 1030 is a 14nm card and only uses DDR5, both of which are in short supply right now. GK208 on the other hand is 28nm and can use DD3, which isn't in as short of supply.

Nvidia did launch that choked-down DDR4 version...

Where's the GT 1010 Nvidia announced on January?

www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-gt-1010.c3762

newtekie1The GT 1030 is a 14nm card and only uses DDR5

I thought it uses GDDR5 which is different from DDR5 as far as I understand.

80-watt HamsterNvidia did launch that choked-down DDR4 version...

That doesn't solve the 14nm issue.