Friday, June 11th 2021

MSI Pledges to Solve Graphics Card Shortages Single-Handedly... Thanks to the GeForce GT 730?

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This just goes to show exactly how starved the market is for graphics cards - that the puny GeForce GT 730, from seven years ago, is being relaunched by a graphics card company. MSI might be oddballing the market here, since we haven't seen any other brand offering this particular graphics card. Of course, this won't solve the gaming graphics card shortage - this is a product that's meant for users that don't have a GPU output on their CPU and need to have a discrete solution.

The GT730 may have been revived partly due to its usage of DDR3 VRAM instead of the now ubiquitous GDDR6 - the pricing pf which is bound to increase, as we've seen with current ridiculous levels of demand. The GT 730 packs 384 CUDA cores and features a 902 MHz boost clock and 2 GB of DDR3 memory operating at 1,600 MHz across a 64-bit memory interface. The GT 730 sips only 23 W of power, meaning that it doesn't need any power delivery outside that of the PCIe port - and aiding in the card's passive cooling. The fact that this is a Kepler card - and the fact that NVIDIA has announced end of support for Kepler cards with the release of the GeForce R470 drivers - should actually have no impact on its preferred usage on today's technology landscape.
Source: Tom's Hardware

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55 Comments on MSI Pledges to Solve Graphics Card Shortages Single-Handedly... Thanks to the GeForce GT 730?

#1
AusWolf
When I said I was waiting for a replacement for my low profile 1650, this isn't exactly what I had in mind.
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#2
stimpy88
Erm WTF? How exactly does this help anyone other than Chinese web cafés, Oh and not forgetting MSI's profiteering ass?

Nothing like dumping dusty old wherehouse detritus on the market for a quick buck or 3.
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#4
Wirko
At least Zotac's passive 730s are undead too. And a bunch of 710s, of course. The prices of all of them have risen by ~30% or more since December.
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#5
ixi
Yesterday saw on local retailer sites GT 730, but these were from Zotac, Gigabyte, Asus. MSI is jumping in the boat looks like.


Hmmm, should I buy cpu without gpu or cpu with gpu. Well, duuh, ryzen 4xxxG or 5xxxG is the way :).
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#6
Bomby569
i gave up on upgrading my gpu, tired of F5 mashing. And i will not buy a single overpriced gpu, i prefer to stop gaming or just buying a PS5 first

If Nvidia and AMD can't give a rat's ass to putting the cards at MSRP in the hands of the gamers, so f themselves. Your greed will destroy yourselves in the end, i will not forget this.
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#7
Chomiq
They're the ones that had shipments "mysteriously" disappear in transit, as well as usually had first GPU's appear in stores long before launch date. Surely, they are the ones that will save gamers.
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#8
TheLostSwede
News Editor
TheoneandonlyMrKCash grab . ..

100£+ ?! Worth £9.
£9? Are you made of money? I wouldn't pay £5...
ChomiqThey're the ones that had shipments "mysteriously" disappear in transit, as well as usually had first GPU's appear in stores long before launch date. Surely, they are the ones that will save gamers.
They also have a history of staff raiding their warehouses...
This actually happened when I worked for MSI, many, many moons ago.
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#11
john_
Well, this is probably the worst GT 730 they could offer. Yes, it is at least Kepler, but when GT 730 was still considered a graphics card, there where 3 models available. With totally different specs.

GT 730 Fermi GPU, DDR3 and 128bit data bus
GT 730 Kepler GPU, GDDR5 and 64bit data bus
GT 730 Kepler GPU, DDR3 and 64bit data bus

MSI chose the card with the less memory bandwidth, meaning it is TOTALLY USELESS.
Probably it is also the cheapest to produce.
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#12
Bones
I would not be suprised to discover many of these cards appearing to fill the void are just cleaned and refurbed cards folks had used and recycled already.
So guys, make damn sure to recycle those cards so they can be obtained for free to them and sold to you (Again) for a nice bit of "Cha-Cha-Ching".
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#13
ozzyozzy
Still no 200-250$ range gpus that miners can't use because of low Vram... They even released 3050 series on laptops. 40% of steam survey is still waiting for this range cards, or they have to buy 500-650$ rx580 1650 1660 cards, or your know, Geforce NOW (soon at Australia) They don't have shortages where money at... Both Amd and Nvidia.

Last local prices where i live, 2nd hand, Official retailers (listed on official nvidia website), Scalpers, biggest tech online sellers :
3090 > 5220$ Asus Rog Strix (4400-5220)
6900xt > 5300$ Gigabyte Gaming OC (3800-5300?!)
3080ti > 3000-3800$
3080 > 2900-3450$
3070ti > 2600-3300$
6800xt > 2600-3000$
6700xt > 2400-2950$
5700 > 1670$ ?! MSI Gaming X (900+ )
3060ti > 2000-2200$
3060 > 1400-1700$
1660s > 990$ Asus TUF Gaming (600-990)
1650s > 595$ Asus GTX 1650 OC LP Low Profile (450-600)
RX580 > 900-1300$ ?!
1050ti > 300-510$ ?!
RX5500 > 410-550$
RX560 > 280-330$ ?!
RX550 > 240-280$ !!
750ti > 195$ Axle GTX 750ti (190-240)
R7 240 > 195$ Asus R7 240 OC 4gb ?!
710 730 1030 740 > 80-130$

vs

PS5 digital 650$ + extra controller
PS5 770-840$ + extra controller + A Game
XsX 700-750$ + extra controller + 1 year Game pass + A Game
XsS 420-450$ + 1 year game pass

vs

Nvidia Geforce NOW - 5-10$ a month...


What do you think people will buy at our region? At least at US people can get close to MSRP price gpus/consoles.

Peace.

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#14
TheLostSwede
News Editor
john_Well, this is probably the worst GT 730 they could offer. Yes, it is at least Kepler, but when GT 730 was still considered a graphics card, there where 3 models available. With totally different specs.

GT 730 Fermi GPU, DDR3 and 128bit data bus
GT 730 Kepler GPU, GDDR5 and 64bit data bus
GT 730 Kepler GPU, DDR3 and 64bit data bus

MSI chose the card with the less memory bandwidth, meaning it is TOTALLY USELESS.
Probably it is also the cheapest to produce.
It's most likely made of bits they had sitting on a shelf in a warehouse somewhere...
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#15
ManofGod
ozzyozzyStill no 200-250$ range gpus that miners can't use because of low Vram... They even released 3050 series on laptops. 40% of steam survey is still waiting for this range cards, or they have to buy 500-650$ rx580 1650 1660 cards, or your know, Geforce NOW (soon at Australia) They don't have shortages where money at... Both Amd and Nvidia.

Last local prices where i live, 2nd hand, Official retailers (listed on official nvidia website), Scalpers, biggest tech online sellers :
3090 > 5220$ Asus Rog Strix (4400-5220)
6900xt > 5300$ Gigabyte Gaming OC (3800-5300?!)
3080ti > 3000-3800$
3080 > 2900-3450$
3070ti > 2600-3300$
6800xt > 2600-3000$
6700xt > 2400-2950$
5700 > 1670$ ?! MSI Gaming X (900+ )
3060ti > 2000-2200$
3060 > 1400-1700$
1660s > 990$ Asus TUF Gaming (600-990)
1650s > 595$ Asus GTX 1650 OC LP Low Profile (450-600)
RX580 > 900-1300$ ?!
1050ti > 300-510$ ?!
RX5500 > 410-550$
RX560 > 280-330$ ?!
RX550 > 240-280$ !!
750ti > 195$ Axle GTX 750ti (190-240)
R7 240 > 195$ Asus R7 240 OC 4gb ?!
710 730 1030 740 > 80-130$

vs

PS5 digital 650$ + extra controller
PS5 770-840$ + extra controller + A Game
XsX 700-750$ + extra controller + 1 year Game pass + A Game
XsS 420-450$ + 1 year game pass

vs

Nvidia Geforce NOW - 5-10$ a month...


What do you think people will buy at our region? At least at US people can get close to MSRP price gpus/consoles.

Peace.

Most will buy the consoles, since they are appropriately priced for your region, which I assume is not the USA. Shoot, I never thought the $480 Vega 56 I bought in September of 2017 would be this valuable to me, nearly 4 years later. (I have this, a Vega 64 ROG Strix and RX5700 reference and am selling none of them.)
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#16
tygrus
I've seen these old cards/chips on EBay. Most were falsely pretending to be GTX 1050 or newer.
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#17
randompeep
TheLostSwedeI wouldn't pay £5...
Honestly £6 is my bet, being an obsolete GDDR3 crap, smashed hard by basically any average iGPU these days. Take in consideration that the lower you go on the stack, the more you should lose performance/buck. Or at least that was the rule once when things were 'pink' asf
I divided its performance by GTX 960's numbers (£35-40 REAL value) and hence the result. But I'd rather go get some KFC with this money or buy a starter NAS for whateva cash they'll be selling those.
Long live second hand market, buy none of this overpriced dogsh!t.
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#18
ppn
Yep, that totally solves it, no display port, no 4K, only hdmi 1.4, legacy VGA,DVI, at least GT 1030 had dual 4K/60 outputs. Why can't we have GT 3030 already.
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#20
Logoffon
TheLostSwede£9? Are you made of money? I wouldn't pay £5...


They also have a history of staff raiding their warehouses...
This actually happened when I worked for MSI, many, many moons ago.
I'd rather pay 100 dollars for that.



Zimbabwean dollars, actually.
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#21
qubit
Overclocked quantum bit
Aren't these outperformed by a modern IGP? Imagine downgrading your IGP with a discrete card, lol.
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#22
randompeep
ppnWhy can't we have GT 3030 already.
Hopefully they'll be doing a whole brotherhood of 30(10-40)'s ASAP
And as excepted, AMD don't give a damn about once looked for lower-end products. Not everyone is gonna game at 1440p/4k anytime soon.
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#23
WhitetailAni
tygrusI've seen these old cards/chips on EBay. Most were falsely pretending to be GTX 1050 or newer.
No, that's the GTS 450. 99.9999999% of fake cards are GTS 450's.
qubitAren't these outperformed by a modern IGP? Imagine downgrading your IGP with a discrete card, lol.
They are. The GT 710 is worse than any modern iGPU. I think the GT 730 beats the Vega 3, but only if you starve the Vega 3 with single-channel RAM for the CPU and not enough VRAM (512MB) for the GPU.
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#24
watzupken
When you think Nvidia giving miners Turing card was bad, gamers gets an ancient card while Nvidia and AIB partners are happily offloading Ampere cards to miners via their back door. The way its meant to be played indeed.
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#25
Liquid Cool
The peak of the shortage was yesterday...Psst. Pass it on.

R.I.P.
Nasdaq - April 29, 2021
DJI - May 10, 2021
S&P 500 - June 10, 2021

What happens next will kill demand worldwide.

Best Regards,

Liquid Cool
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