...two cards but they will likely come in under 400 USD

Good to hear that 1080p GPUs are now MSRPing "under 400 USD". Me, an old fool, still remember the days when Polaris launch price was set at 179 USD back in 2016. RIP DIY PC building if 399 USD price tag turns out to be true.

From what I saw it is expected to be around RX5700XT, which had similar MSRP.

Progress, people...

ExcuseMeWtfFrom what I saw it is expected to be around RX5700XT, which had similar MSRP.

Progress, people...

While 5700XT is still a capable 1440p/ semi capable 4K dGPU, 6600XT is likely gonna be beaten by 5700/5700XT and even 2060S/3060 by quite a lot at 1440p and 4K. I can't see how only 32MB infinity cache and 128-bit memory bus could be enough for 1440p let alone 4K gaming.

It sounds like price progression, performance regression to me :(

At least till the supply issues get straightened out the sub 300 usd GPU market is dead even if these released for 200-250 ish they would be scalped for at least double that till AMD and Nvidia can meet demand.

oxrufiioxoAt least till the supply issues get straightened out the sub 300 usd GPU market is dead even if these released for 200-250 ish they would be scalped for at least double that till AMD and Nvidia can meet demand.

The problem with MSRP hikes is that they're here to stay even after supply meets demand. Rising profit margins every generation seems to be a new normal nowdays.

If these cards d'not beat the 3060 ti or 3060 in gaming or compute. They wont sell much

RedelZaVednoThe problem with MSRP hikes is that they're here to stay even after supply meets demand. Rising profit margins every generation seems to be a new normal nowdays.

I fully expect there to be $199-299 class gpu once demands settles down.... I also fully expect these gpu to suck but at the min they will be better than the 1650 super/RX 5500/570/580....

RichardsIf these cards d'not beat the 3060 ti or 3060 in gaming or compute. They wont sell much

d'not ?

and also it just comes down to price

oxrufiioxoI fully expect there to be $199-299 class gpu once demands settles down.... I also fully expect these gpu to suck but at the min they will be better than the 1650 super/RX 5500/570/580....

That's not good enough. 5600XT had MSRP of $279 and was basically 5700 with 2 gigs less vram. 6600XT should be at least on pair with 3060 and cost 299 max. There'll be zero generational progress otherwise. What will likely happen based on specs and leaks is 6600XT beating 3060 at 1080p but losing at 1440p and 4K by substantial margin due to it's bandwidth limitations, but that won't stop AMD from charging 349$ for it. Even rumoured $399 is not out of the question I'm afraid. Lisa has become as greedy as Jensen.

RedelZaVednoThat's not good enough. 5600XT had MSRP of $279 and was basically 5700 with 2 gigs less vram. 6600XT should be at least on pair with 3060 and cost 299 max. There'll be zero generational progress otherwise. What will likely happen based on specs and leaks is 6600XT beating 3060 at 1080p but losing at 1440p and 4K by substantial margin due to it's bandwidth limitations, but that won't stop AMD from charging 349$ for it. Even rumoured $399 is not out of the question I'm afraid. Lisa has become as greedy as Jensen.

The cheapest current gen gpu right now you can actually buy somewhat easily at retail is 900 usd vs its 480 msrp they would be stupid not to price it at 400+ at least till demand settles. Even if they price it at 300 usd retailers will just bump it to 600+ anyways.

oxrufiioxoThe cheapest current gen gpu right now you can actually buy somewhat easily at retail is 900 usd vs its 480 msrp they would be stupid not to price it at 400+ at least till demand settles. Even if they price it at 300 usd retailers will just bump it to 600+ anyways.

Yeah, that's why I'm saying DIY gaming PC building in nearly dead, reserved for people with I don't give a F about money and nerds selling their kidneys for dGPUs. What gives me some hope is tons of 6700XT GPUs rotting on shelves at our local retailer in Germany priced from 749 to 799€. Maybe mining craze is coming to an end after all.

RedelZaVednoYeah, that's why I'm saying DIY gaming PC building in nearly dead, reserved for people with I don't give a F about money and nerds selling their kidneys for dGPUs. What gives me some hope is tons of 6700XT GPUs rotting on shelves at our local retailer in Germany priced from 749 to 799€. Maybe mining craze is coming to an end after all.

Wow, hyper-reactionist much? "DIY is nearly dead" Yeah that's why Nvidia and AMD cant keep enough stock of anything LMFAO. Take a chill pill.

Also, yet another reminder that the geforce 880 ultra hit, adjusted for inflation, nearly $1100 in 2008. Man how did DIY PC building EVER survive?

Yeah that's why Nvidia and AMD cant keep enough stock of anything LMFAO

Did you forget cryptomining craze as well as AIBs get priority over DIY PC building gamers?

geforce 880 ultra hit,

Yeah, let's compare top of the line halo product of the time to supposedly mid range GPUs in terms of pricing. Sounds reasonable /s

DIY is not quite dead yet, but is niche at best.

If they price the MSRP above $300, this will become a trend thanks to scalpers we will see higher initial MSRP until the mining market takes another major nose dive ( bigger than the current lull )

RedelZaVednoWhile 5700XT is still a capable 1440p/ semi capable 4K dGPU, 6600XT is likely gonna be beaten by 5700/5700XT and even 2060S/3060 by quite a lot at 1440p and 4K. I can't see how only 32MB infinity cache and 128-bit memory bus could be enough for 1440p let alone 4K gaming.

It sounds like price progression, performance regression to me :(

At 4K it might not perform best, but at 1440p it will probably not have problems. Here are some speculative calculations by Locuza:



And his conclusion:


Also, new leak suggests 6600 (XT) has 1*8 pin power connector, so it's probably a 180W design

Wouldn't pay more than $199 period. World's gone mad.

ExcuseMeWtfDid you forget cryptomining craze as well as AIBs get priority over DIY PC building gamers?

Nope. I also didnt forget Steam hitting a record number of daily users in the midst of this hardware "shortage". Or the likes or yzen 5000 CPUs selling out at the same time despite them being no good at mining.

This is the third time that "ZoMg MiNiNg Is GoInG tO kIlL gAmInG" has spread like a pox on the forums, and for the third time it will be seen as hyper reactionist doomerposting.

ExcuseMeWtfYeah, let's compare top of the line halo product of the time to supposedly mid range GPUs in terms of pricing. Sounds reasonable /s

I guess the concept of inflation of GPU pricing is just out of the question with you?

You know what, you're right, GPUs have always been under $200 and PC gaming is DOOMED, DOOMED I TELLS YOU :laugh: :rolleyes: :roll:

ExcuseMeWtfDIY is not quite dead yet, but is niche at best.

DIY has always been niche, and is arguably larger then ever before. Do you have ANY source for the DIY market "dying" other then "dude trust me I post ont he interweb"?

TheinsanegamerNI guess the concept of inflation of GPU pricing is just out of the question with you?

I think, a card with 128bit memory bandwidth and cheapish heatsink and fans is already considered inflated at 200 $/€. It looks like a cheap rx460/470 hybrid, and those were 100-170 $/€ cards 5 years ago.

The update needs an update. Date is off by a tiny bit.
This could be done purposefully to see if people like me will correct it and blame us for being naughty :)

ExcuseMeWtfFrom what I saw it is expected to be around RX5700XT, which had similar MSRP.

Progress, people...

While I don't disagree, look back at the radeon HD3850 to HD4850. Basically 2x performance for roughly the same price. Another one the radeon HD 6850 to the RX470, 300% more performance, 400% more ram, and 6 years of inflation, but the launch price was about the same, not 300% more.

I think the extra transistors for ray tracing isn't helping, nor has the pandemic.

I would obviously expect to pay more for more performance, but how much more is the question?

I bought my 6850 when the 7850 came out so I got it for $140 cad, I got my RX 480 on the mining upswing for $330 cad, so I went from a 1GB card to an 8GB card with approx. 350% more performance for about 2.36x in $$ I thought that was sort of fair, although it would have been closer to 2x if not for the mining inflation.

So going by that, I am willing to pay $600 cad for a card if I get 16GB of ram and 350% more performance than my RX480.

However my typical budget is around $330 CAD ish, ($270 usd) so at the very least when a card of that value gets released I would expect the same 8GB of ram, less power use from die shink, and at least 125%-150% performance increase due to architecture, for roughly the same $330cad as my RX 480.

Traditionally CPUs pricing have been the same as in as technology progresses you would get more performance for the same amount of money. I think I paid $300 for a 3200+ clawhammer s754 back in 2003. 4 years ago I got a ryzen 1700 for the same price.

So it's just been the norm for so long, which is why it's understandable for people to be disappointed in todays current pricing.

Update coming from a Youtube channel... that's reliable AF. :wtf:

the msrp price of the 3060 is 330$ , this 6600xt should be faster than 3060 at 1080p and same or a bit slower at 1440p , the 3060 should be faster when using RT and both have same vram.
Would be best if this 6600xt msrp at 280$ i would not pay the same or higher amount of money for same performance and less features though. Rtx 3000 is worse at power consumption but pretty impressive at undervolt