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NVIDIA Reportedly Readies RTX 2060 12 GB SKUs for Early 2022 Launch

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Videocardz, citing their own sources in the industry, claims that NVIDIA is readying a resurrection of sorts for the popular RTX 2060 graphics card. One of the hallmarks of the raytracing era, the Turing-based RTX 2060 routinely stands as the second most popular graphics card on Steam's hardware survey. Considering the still-ongoing semiconductor shortages and overreaching demand stretching logistics and supply lines thin, NVIDIA would thus be looking at a slight specs bump (double the GDDR6 memory to 12 GB) as a marketing point for the revised RTX 2060. This would also add to the company's ability to deliver mainstream-performance graphics cards in a high enough volume that enables the company to keep reaping benefits from the current Ampere line-up's higher ASP (Average Selling Price) across the board.

Videocardz' sources claim the revised RTX 2060 will be making use of the PG116 board, recycling it from the original GTX 1660 Ti design it was born unto. Apparently, NVIDIA has already warned board partners that the final design and specifications might be ready at years' end, with a potential re-release for January 2021. While the increase to a 12 GB memory footprint on an RTX 2060 graphics card is debatable, NVIDIA has to have some marketing flair to add to such a release. Remember that the RTX 2060 was already given a second lease of life earlier this year as a stopgap solution towards getting more gaming-capable graphics cards on the market; NVIDIA had allegedly moved its RTX 2060 manufacturing allocation back to Ampere, but now it seems that we'll witness a doubling-down on the RTX 2060. Now we just have to wait for the secondary market pricing to come down from its current $500 average... For a $349 MSRP, 2019 graphics card.
Source: Videocardz

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65 Comments on NVIDIA Reportedly Readies RTX 2060 12 GB SKUs for Early 2022 Launch

#26
BSim500
Vayra86At the same time, graphics technology was already at a point, in 2016-17, that for almost everyone 'it was enough to look good'. Thát is why these older cards last.
I keep looking back to Indie's like The Vanishing of Ethan Carter and thinking, wait a minute, they managed to do that on 2GB VRAM cards in 2014... Where's the 'progress'?... It seems the more you given them (hardware) the less they now seem capable of doing with it. And that gorgeous water-colour palette / art style of Dishonored 1 still looks better to me that technically superior "4k brown / grey" palettes of several years newer games with 80% slower frame-rates.
TheinsanegamerNModern AAA gaming has been trash, the entire PS4/XBONE generation was a huge dissapointment to me, especially after the 2008-2012 period where we were getting one banger after another. My worry is that even if you are interested in older games or less demanding titles, the price of a 1650 super or 5500xt is absolutely bonkers. If you dont have a dGPU already you're just plain screwed until prices finally fix themselves. If my vega 64 were to die on me, I'd have no recourse for a replacement even if I wanted to downgrade.
Yeah I know what you mean. Luckily I do have a spare GTX 1650 Super I was thinking of selling (they were £320 on Ebay at one point). Shortages are so extreme here in the UK (even the GT1030 DDR5 is sold out) I'm keeping that as a backup and simply "bunkering down" until things return to normal.
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#27
Fouquin
silentbogoSeen this rumor a few days ago and I strongly suspect that these actually are their infamous turing-based CMP mining cards. "Cheapified" 1660 PCB is a dead giveaway.
I'm really confused as to how that's a giveaway. The 1660/Ti, 2060 and 2070 shared various PCB designs. So you can't really get a good sense of what it is based on the fact that it uses the same PCB as a hundred other cards. If they're making a 12GB 2060 they'll obviously be reusing the board designs that were already being reused in the first place.
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#28
Sisyphus
BSim5002010's vs 2000's innovation = How to shoehorn trashy mobile "Freemium" monetization mechanics into full priced PC games and get away with it, "surprise mechanics", explosion in cheating for online multi-player, how to pull off a Call of Duty with almost every mainstream AAA franchise and keep recycling the same 15-30 year old IP over & over because 'new ideas are risky', etc...

Honestly, part of me is glad PC gaming hardware is being screwed up now and not 20 years ago.
I only play now and then, like modding games and content creating. RT, cuda and tensor cores are a great technological advancement, accelerating many calculations by 5-10. Yes, game engine development needs time to implement the new potential. And yes, the game industry is mainly for gamer of age 10-20. The older you are, the more infantil are the games.
And your conclusion is absolutely wrong. The high price is for high demand. In a screwed up/crashing market, GPUs are cheap because nobody wants to buy them. The oposite is the reality. There are so many buyers . . . the producers can dictate the price.
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#29
Tardian
current $500 average... For a $349 MSRP, 2019 graphics card.
800-900 AUD for an ultra 1440p@60fps card in some games? Old school?
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#30
Sisyphus
neatfeatguyYeah! A sub-performance card of the 3060 that has just as much VRAM and won't really be able to use it all. Sounds like a waste of RAM.

Nvidia scared that Intel will make bank off the sub-RTX 3060 gaming segment or something?
The 2060 placement has a very easy explanation: 12 nm TSMC process runs smoothly, capacity is available, the main product lines of AMD/nVidia are 7/8 nm. More VRAM is always welcome for content creators and miners.
Nobody is scared of Intel, but there is a high demand and 7/8nm lines, TSMC and Samsung are booked out, so you keep 12 nm products alive. That's a huge profit margin for a 12 nm product. I see absolutely no reason, why nVidia should stop the rtx 2060 line.
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#31
RedBear
SisyphusThe 2060 placement has a very easy explanation: 12 nm TSMC process runs smoothly, capacity is available, the main product lines of AMD/nVidia are 7/8 nm.
If it was just because of available capacity they could have just ramped up production of the RTX 2060 Super, overall it remains the superior card because of the larger memory bus and higher CUDA/RT/Tensor counts; I might be completely wrong, but personally I suspect that they're just getting rid of a surplus stock of TU106-300s.
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#32
silentbogo
FouquinI'm really confused as to how that's a giveaway. The 1660/Ti, 2060 and 2070 shared various PCB designs.
I understand your confusion, so need to clarify a bit if you aren't familiar with details.
It's not necessarily about shared designs, but about PCB model numbers. CMP30HX and 40HX are built on PG161(cheaper 6-layer PCB), the same reference PCB that's used for this new card, while regular 2060 and above usually uses PG160(10-layer). PG161 is also common for 1660[ti]. AFAIK, only EVGA RTX 2060 KO the absolute cheapest 2060s use PG161.
Speaking of which, @Raevenlord , you have a typo.
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#33
defaultluser
SisyphusThe 2060 placement has a very easy explanation: 12 nm TSMC process runs smoothly, capacity is available, the main product lines of AMD/nVidia are 7/8 nm. More VRAM is always welcome for content creators and miners.
Nobody is scared of Intel, but there is a high demand and 7/8nm lines, TSMC and Samsung are booked out, so you keep 12 nm products alive. That's a huge profit margin for a 12 nm product. I see absolutely no reason, why nVidia should stop the rtx 2060 line.
So, where are you going to Magic-away that 2GB x 6 GDDR6 chips from?

This thing will end-up being held-back by one or two seemingly superfluous (but absolutely necessary) components, making impossible to buy reliably at msrp!

www.tweaktown.com/news/79937/gddr6-memory-prices-to-increase-8-13-by-q3-2021-hurts-gpus-consoles/index.html
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#34
Sisyphus
RedBearIf it was just because of available capacity they could have just ramped up production of the RTX 2060 Super, overall it remains the superior card because of the larger memory bus and higher CUDA/RT/Tensor counts; I might be completely wrong, but personally I suspect that they're just getting rid of a surplus stock of TU106-300s.
You can only sell, what you have in stock. In the current market situation, they can sell everything with high margin. 12 GB VRam is marketing for gamers and real value for content creators/students. For CAD, RT, encoding etc. every VRAM counts, because VRAM is used as fast cache by many applications.
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#35
Fouquin
silentbogoI understand your confusion, so need to clarify a bit if you aren't familiar with details.
It's not necessarily about shared designs, but about PCB model numbers. CMP30HX and 40HX are built on PG161(cheaper 6-layer PCB), the same reference PCB that's used for this new card, while regular 2060 and above usually uses PG160(10-layer). PG161 is also common for 1660[ti]. AFAIK, only EVGA RTX 2060 KO the absolute cheapest 2060s use PG161.
Speaking of which, @Raevenlord , you have a typo.
And the 1660 Ti reference was PG160. Hence the confusion to the original statement that being PG161 was a dead giveaway for these new cards being remarked CMPs. 160/161 overlapped almost the entire range, so criticizing that these new cards must be remarked CMPs seems weird. The conclusion I'd come to is that they never stopped producing PG161 and so it's what had tooling ready for this kind of product. Not that they're cannibalizing another product to do it, and in turn shoving lower quality cards to the consumer nefariously.
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#36
matar
$349 MSRP :kookoo::roll:
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#37
Sisyphus
FouquinNot that they're cannibalizing another product to do it, and in turn shoving lower quality cards to the consumer nefariously.[...]
There is no other low budged nVidia card with 12 GB VRam. Nothing to cannibalize here. The product fills a long open void. Unfortunately, if it comes a little late, I would have liked the card in 2019.
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#38
Arkz
ChomiqWaste of silicone.
It's a graphics card, not a pair of tits.
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#39
TheoneandonlyMrK
It'll play games well but a bit drab sounding as a prospective buy.
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#40
DeathtoGnomes
Likely a limited run, I'm guessing the chips were leftover from lost sales and refurbished RMA cards. :rolleyes: :p
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#41
Unregistered
defaultluserBecause it's the only Turing RTX card that they can afford to sell at around $200 (aand it should be faster than Intel's 1060 performance level)

And right now Intel is threatening with RTX. (might be slower at it than the 1660 Ti with the same effects turned on, but the PR is strong with Intel)

Of course, unless we have Etherium go Proof of stake before this launches, this will all be pointless.
The 2070 has the same die size, it shouldn't cost more especially with 8gb rather than 12gb of GDDR6.
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#42
N3utro
This won't change anything to the current situation. As long as gpus will be easy money making machines with mining the miners will still fight to buy any available gpus.

What will change it is when major states will realize like China that cryptocurrency is a threat to their economy and ban it. Then the bubble will burst, and the market will be saturated with gpus at all time low prices. Just wait and see this happen.
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#43
isvelte
DonKnottsI can't. Neither can millions of others. Low latency high speed internet service is still a pipe dream in large swathes of the US. I'm not even in a rural area and I can't get ANY wired high speed internet service at all. Extremely unreliable and slow 4G, and equally slow and outrageously overpriced fixed wireless is all I have to choose from. They can barely handle a 720p youtube video without buffering, I certainly won't be able to use a game streaming service.
I live in a rural area (literally pineapple fields) in a 3rd world country (philippines) and I got lined fiber connection here since 2016. Although I dont think theres any game streaming service/servers available anywhere in southeast asia lol
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#44
Tardian
isvelteI live in a rural area (literally pineapple fields) in a 3rd world country (philippines) and I got lined fiber connection here since 2016. Although I dont think theres any game streaming service/servers available anywhere in southeast asia lol
In that case, I live in Australia, which therefore must be a 4th world country because we have a Hybrid Fibre Coaxial (HFC) connection. :banghead:
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#45
ZoneDymo
ya know, im actually suprised Nvidia did not put in a LITTLE bit of extra effort on the card and then just called it a RTX3050.
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#46
Vayra86
ArkzIt's a graphics card, not a pair of tits.
You won the internet today.
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#47
Richards
ZoneDymoya know, im actually suprised Nvidia did not put in a LITTLE bit of extra effort on the card and then just called it a RTX3050.
They did its in laptops which is a bigger market
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#48
AusWolf
Considering that it's still a capable 1080p gaming card, the comeback would make sense - unlike the 12 GB VRAM, which is totally pointless. I'm just surprised that nvidia managed to squeeze in some allocation for Turing GPUs at TSMC.
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#49
AnarchoPrimitiv
DonKnottsI can't. Neither can millions of others. Low latency high speed internet service is still a pipe dream in large swathes of the US. I'm not even in a rural area and I can't get ANY wired high speed internet service at all. Extremely unreliable and slow 4G, and equally slow and outrageously overpriced fixed wireless is all I have to choose from. They can barely handle a 720p youtube video without buffering, I certainly won't be able to use a game streaming service.
I know how you feel, I moved to New Hampshire a few years ago, and the first place I moved to ONLY had DSL with 1.5Mbps service..... That's right, 1500Kbps....then I moved to a slightly more populated area and now have 1.2Gbps (1200Mbps) for $33.99/month is you can believe that.... I've had a 10GBase-T home network for years and now my internet actually makes real use of it.... But yeah, that first year of 1.5Mbps was horrible, had just built a new PC and couldn't even claim the free game downloads that came with my hardware (I remember I was downloading Borderlands 3, it had taken me days to get to 60GBs, and then Epic's stupid program just restarted the download for no apparent reason) couldn't even watch full HD YouTube.
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#50
AusWolf
AnarchoPrimitivI know how you feel, I moved to New Hampshire a few years ago, and the first place I moved to ONLY had DSL with 1.5Mbps service..... That's right, 1500Kbps....then I moved to a slightly more populated area and now have 1.2Gbps (1200Mbps) for $33.99/month is you can believe that.... I've had a 10GBase-T home network for years and now my internet actually makes real use of it.... But yeah, that first year of 1.5Mbps was horrible, had just built a new PC and couldn't even claim the free game downloads that came with my hardware (I remember I was downloading Borderlands 3, it had taken me days to get to 60GBs, and then Epic's stupid program just restarted the download for no apparent reason) couldn't even watch full HD YouTube.
I live in a mid-sized town in the middle of the UK. I've got the fastest broadband plan available in my area which gives me 30 Mbps download and 4 Mbps upload for £26 a month. Meanwhile, my parents in an equal sized town in Hungary have got the slowest plan in their area which is a 250 Mbps download for a fraction of what I pay.

Anyway, whatever speed I've got, I still would never consider subscribing for a game streaming service. Whatever is physically on your PC can be trusted to work whenever you want to. Whatever is up there, somewhere in the cloud (meaning, someone else's PC) cannot. Also, why would I pay monthly to play a game that I've already bought? I'm already paying monthly for my crappy broadband service. How many more services do I have to pay for? Am I made out of money? :mad:
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