yotano211This is on a i7 11800h running slightly overclocked at 4.3ghz.

Take that screenshot down. It could land you in trouble.

blanarahulyou got 622 at 4300 MHz so 800 is the equivalent of 11800H running @ 5500 MHz. not bad. (i know this is an oversimplification and things don't scale linearly with Hz).

No, they don't. Also you got to remember that the H series processors are laptop processors with relatively low TDP.
So the 12th gen will have higher TDP as well as better IPC to deliver that 800.

cst1992Take that screenshot down. It could land you in trouble.


No, they don't. Also you got to remember that the H series processors are laptop processors with relatively low TDP.
So the 12th gen will have higher TDP as well as better IPC to deliver that 800.

H processors are laptop processors but it still draws around 80w at 4.3ghz, running at 100%.

ChomiqCopyright notice to stop downloading Das Boot incoming in 3... 2... 1...

On topic:
What's the wattage?

4.2ghz is 76w, 4.3ghz is 80w according to hwmonitor with a .055mv undervolt.

Throw some cache and a slightly better process node at it with higher single core clock speeds.


At the end its still good for consumers.

cst1992Take that screenshot down. It could land you in trouble.

If I post something incriminating here, the law-enforcement will grab my username and IP address.

OH NO. A faceless pseudonym and VPN proxy IP will be liable for prosecution!

ArkzIt's called cropping.

Also Nicehash sucks. Join a pool so you're not giving them 7% fees, plus withdrawal fees.

It's much easier to avoid taking a screenshot of the entire screen so there is no need to edit/crop the pic. Use alt+print screen.

Intel: We're Back!

Also: Intel's new CPU not faster at than AMDs last years CPU, and probably double the cost, when Ryzen CPUs get a price slashing here soon.

Yawn, just wait for benchmarks under controlled conditions before drawing conclusions.

docnorthI don't know if Alder Lake will work on W10, but all serious reviewers should be able to test the AMD CPU's both on W10 and W11 when time for real reviews comes.

It will work, but I believe the "little" cores wont do much of anything, and performance will be drastically nerfed. But I would expect MS to patch Win10 eventually.

UskompufThe i7-12700K scored 800 points in the single thread

For the reference, 5900X scores around 650 (and loses to existing Intel CPUs in that regard)

UnCertaintyIt's much easier to avoid taking a screenshot of the entire screen so there is no need to edit/crop the pic. Use alt+print screen.

Windows button + S (you are welcome)

warrior420Intel: We're Back!

Also: Intel's new CPU not faster at than AMDs last years CPU, and probably double the cost, when Ryzen CPUs get a price slashing here soon.

Not faster? It demolishes it (any) in single thread and matches a Ryzen 9 in multi, which is one stack higher! By your deluded fanboy logic, you might as well say that the new Pentiums (when they arrive) don't match 5950x in multi thread and start yelling that Intel sucks. And if the recent two generations of i7s are any clue, they are more likely to be cheaper than 5800x and definitely much cheaper than 5900x.

medi01For the reference, 5900X scores around 650 (and loses to existing Intel CPUs in that regard)


Windows button + S (you are welcome)

Thats the search shortcut.

yotano211

Thats the search shortcut.

Sorry, Windows + Shift + S (actually it has changed over time)

medi01Sorry, Windows + Shift + S (actually it has changed over time)

thanks, i keep forgetting.

medi01Sorry, Windows + Shift + S (actually it has changed over time)

On Windows 7 it does take a clipping(via OneNote).

yotano211

Thats the search shortcut.

If you're using Windows 10, yes.

cst1992On Windows 7 it does take a clipping(via OneNote).


If you're using Windows 10, yes.

I use win 10 with a windows 7 shell.

HenrySomeoneNot faster? It demolishes it (any) in single thread and matches a Ryzen 9 in multi, which is one stack higher! By your deluded fanboy logic, you might as well say that the new Pentiums (when they arrive) don't match 5950x in multi thread and start yelling that Intel sucks. And if the recent two generations of i7s are any clue, they are more likely to be cheaper than 5800x and definitely much cheaper than 5900x.

It demolishes CPU Z. Let's leave it there for now.

It looks very similar in CineBench, so I have little doubt it will show a very substantial single thread lead pretty much everywhere. And despite what some would tell you, as long as you have enough cores, single thread performance is still king.

HenrySomeoneNot faster? It demolishes it (any) in single thread and matches a Ryzen 9 in multi, which is one stack higher! By your deluded fanboy logic, you might as well say that the new Pentiums (when they arrive) don't match 5950x in multi thread and start yelling that Intel sucks. And if the recent two generations of i7s are any clue, they are more likely to be cheaper than 5800x and definitely much cheaper than 5900x.

You seem to have an awfully short memory about Intel and their history with prices.
This is Intels' brand spanking new shiny baby and as far as they are concerned what competition!

You will absolutely be paying for that privilege!

Funny how people complain about AMD for charging premium when they are the best and it seems to be AOK when Intel do it !

Ryzen prices and availability are very good now and have been for some time .
Price cuts for Ryzen may happen depending on how well Alder Lake actually performs with credible reviews .

HenrySomeonesingle thread performance is still king.

Always will be, because it scales across core count. And that's where Alder Lake starts getting very misty.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for progress and if big little delivers that, +1. But again... don't mistake a canned bench or synthetics for real world usage. Its not the same thing and as processor tech has to keep reaching higher to show fruit of new developments, you need an ever more detailed set of tests to determine what's really happening.

Bursting through a Cinebench load isn't really indicative of sustained performance, and the question is how much more bursty you want the CPUs for short term loads. Sustained is where its at for the use cases where the performance is truly needed.

Its the same metric we held Ryzen 1 to, even if its multicore perf was miles ahead, the single thread was lacking, and in certain use cases the extra cores wouldn't fix that lack of performance either - for example in high FPS gaming. Alder Lake is on the other end of the spectrum really, where its multicore perf is, perhaps not quite what you'd expect. Let alone the potential problems with scheduling and core allocation.

One thing is crystal clear to me though, the Alder Lake stack is a bit of a mess, but still much better suited than Ryzen going beyond 8 physical cores for MSDT. At the same time, the only reason Intel has is its own lack of node progress ;)

with OS windows 11 and rtx 4000 with PCIE 5.0, this alder lake 12700k and DDR5 RAM, will become very very sexy for the future of PC gaming......

arni-gxwith OS windows 11 and rtx 4000 with PCIE 5.0, this alder lake 12700k and DDR5 RAM, will become very very sexy for the future of PC gaming......

I don't see any sexyness, win 11 will be a garbage mess for a 1yr, ddr5 will have huge memory timings for at least a 1y and rtx 4000 will still require a pre built to get it.

warrior420Intel: We're Back!

Also: Intel's new CPU not faster at than AMDs last years CPU, and probably double the cost, when Ryzen CPUs get a price slashing here soon.

:laugh:

Why_Me:laugh:

Let the slashing begin! :D

Pointless Numbers, such as a few other Benchmarks (Geekbench, CPUbench etc.). :laugh:

seth1911Pointless Numbers, such as a few other Benchmarks (Geekbench, CPUbench etc.). :laugh:

Your a little late to the game. The reviews have already been posted.