AMD has been working on a mining specific product other than this with hbm2 and double the hashrate this one does. I guess we will have to wait and see.

With ETH slowly drifting away from PoW, I wonder how relevant these cards are moving forward.

FourstaffWith ETH slowly drifting away from PoW, I wonder how relevant these cards are moving forward.

There'll always be another PoW coin, sadly.

"passiv design"

Only 86% as good as passive cooling.

Also, these cards are just gonna become e-waste once the crypto bubble pops (if it hasn't already).

sam_86314"passiv design"

Only 86% as good as passive cooling.

Also, these cards are just gonna become e-waste once the crypto bubble pops (if it hasn't already).

$57000 US with China out of the equation officially.

Off-topic but I can't wait for my wattmeter to arrive. Wanna check power consumption of electronic things in the household real-time and geek out so much.

sam_86314"passiv design"

Only 86% as good as passive cooling.

No fans= less power

Interestingly I wonder how much those cards are going to cost because that's the return of HBM. Modern GFX cards are better off with the latest HBM variant.

R-T-BThere'll always be another PoW coin, sadly.

Why sadly, the sad (stupid) thing is the decision to love away from PoW for ether.
Projects like ether are very innovative creating have decentralised finance, where to run apps without have illogical limitations imposed by governments and central banks.
Then graphics carda became multipurpose processors some time ago, people should stop thinking that they are only for gaming, they are used for gaming, video editing, 3d modelling, machine learning... Etc yet only mining is pointing out.

Xex360Why sadly, the sad (stupid) thing is the decision to love away from PoW for ether.
Projects like ether are very innovative creating have decentralised finance, where to run apps without have illogical limitations imposed by governments and central banks.
Then graphics carda became multipurpose processors some time ago, people should stop thinking that they are only for gaming, they are used for gaming, video editing, 3d modelling, machine learning... Etc yet only mining is pointing out.

true..

But big corporations are using pro class cards .. They have better support for applications, are more efficient and costy ... Miners are using lower grade cards (''gaming''), because of RoI .. (hobbies and freelancers dont buy bulk like miners)

delshayNo fans= less power

Interestingly I wonder how much those cards are going to cost because that's the return of HBM. Modern GFX cards are better off with the latest HBM variant.

These are literally Radeon pro V520s ...

They couldn't be bothered to do a LHR version to help gamers so why not, who cares at this point.

Xex360Why sadly, the sad (stupid) thing is the decision to love away from PoW for ether.

I do not view PoW's competitive nature as healthy for the environment or perhaps more significantly, the markets it pillages.

Xex360Then graphics carda became multipurpose processors some time ago, people should stop thinking that they are only for gaming, they are used for gaming, video editing, 3d modelling, machine learning... Etc yet only mining is pointing out.

That'd be fine if PoW mining wasn't eating such a large share due to it's inherently competitive nature.

if real, that is just pathetic from AMD

Bomby569They couldn't be bothered to do a LHR version to help gamers so why not, who cares at this point.

Let's just accept Intel, AMD and NVidia don't give a shit about gamers, only income.

TheDeeGeeLet's just accept Intel, AMD and NVidia don't give a shit about gamers, only income.

This has always been the case. Any belief otherwise is just folly.

humans are a useless species. capable of so much, yet so little.

ZoneDymoif real, that is just pathetic from AMD

Why? If these are indeed reject dies from Apple bin would it be better if they went straight to landfill?

Xex360Why sadly, the sad (stupid) thing is the decision to love away from PoW for ether.
Projects like ether are very innovative creating have decentralised finance, where to run apps without have illogical limitations imposed by governments and central banks.

This is nonsense libertarian techbro speak. Cryptocurrency, but more specifically Cryptocurrency mined with PoW will never be a stable, viable currency because of it's nature. To explain: Cryptocurrency mined with PoW does not create decentralized finance, it just moves the centralized finance entirely to private entities that can afford to buy hundreds of thousands of mining cards. This, along currently with the ability to wildly speculate on that currency makes it wildly unstable. An unstable currency makes for an unstable economy. USD average inflation rate over the last 10 or so years is 2-3% YoY, Eth. went from $737 USD to $3,785 in the last year alone, or if you were to use currency terms, an inflation rate of... 500% or so.

Just consider a business startup in 2015. Let's say the owner can decide to pay their employees in Etherium instead of USD. So they pay about 10 Etherium an hour, let's say that it's the equivalent of $10 an hour. In a year, that 10 Etherium/hr is worth $90/hr. In another year it's worth $10,000/hr. The owner would have to be renegotiating their contract with their employee every week, so for that owner, more work would go into labor negotiation than any useful business practices. I hope maybe this makes you realize that an unregulated PoW crytocurrency will never work in a labor market.

I am on the same page as you as the currency in crypto currency is a bit exaggerated. Cryptocurrencies are actually closer to Stock and similar assets class and crypto market are just a type of unregulated speculative assets exchange.

The fact that you can buy stuff with crypto have more to do with tax evasion than anything else.

ChomiqWhy? If these are indeed reject dies from Apple bin would it be better if they went straight to landfill?

You're assuming the only 2 alternatives were those. When they could just have ended as normal gpu's. Reject dies for one product end up as another lower class product every day.

Bomby569You're assuming the only 2 alternatives were those. When they could just have ended as normal gpu's. Reject dies for one product end up as another lower class product every day.

You're assuming these rejected dies are capable of functioning as a normal GPU. They very well might not.

Bomby569You're assuming the only 2 alternatives were those. When they could just have ended as normal gpu's. Reject dies for one product end up as another lower class product every day.

And here they end up in a mining GPU with hashrate above that of 3060 Ti so I'm all in for that.

AquinusYou're assuming these rejected dies are capable of functioning as a normal GPU. They very well might not.

Not the mention the "Apple exclusive" part.

AquinusYou're assuming these rejected dies are capable of functioning as a normal GPU. They very well might not.

I guess it's a 50/50 as neither one of us have any data to support either. I doubt they were so bad as they couldn't be integrated in a rx 6600 or 6500 or whatever comes next. Seems more likely a deliberated choice. Still all i was saying is those were not the only 2 choices with the data avaiable to us.

delshayNo fans= less power

That's not how this works, these don't have fans because they're meant to be placed in server racks.

OS: Linux Ubuntu/RedHeat. I wonder if the Red Heat Linux features Arnold Schwarzenegger.