Sunday, October 24th 2021
Intel Core i5-12600K 47% Faster Than Ryzen 5 5600X in Leaked CPU-Z Benchmark
The Intel Core i5-12600K is set to feature 6 high-performance cores and 4 high-efficiency cores running at base speeds of 3.7 GHz and 2.8 GHz respectively. These cores can boost to 4.9 GHz and 3.6 GHz with Turbo Max Boost 3.0 however we don't expect much more speed can be extracted out of them using overclocking so default performance with sufficient cooling should be close to max. We have recently seen some CPU-Z test scores for the processor from prominent leakers which show the chip scoring 746 and 7058 points in the single-threaded and multi-threaded tests when running stock on Windows 11. The processor was also tested with an unknown overclock on Windows 10 where it scored 79X and 72XX points respectively.
These scores are extremely competitive with them easily beating the Ryzen 5 5600X by 19.5% and 46.7% in single-threaded and multi-threaded tests. We still don't know where Intel will position the Core i5-12600K in the market so any judgment on the value of these processors will need to wait until release. While we don't currently know the expected MSRP for the Core i5-12600K we have seen pricing for the Core i7-12700K and Core i9-12900K at 469.99 USD and 669.99 USD respectively. Intel is expected to announce these Alder Lake desktop processors during an event on October 27th with general availability expected November 4th.
Sources:
@9550pro, @TUM_APISAK
These scores are extremely competitive with them easily beating the Ryzen 5 5600X by 19.5% and 46.7% in single-threaded and multi-threaded tests. We still don't know where Intel will position the Core i5-12600K in the market so any judgment on the value of these processors will need to wait until release. While we don't currently know the expected MSRP for the Core i5-12600K we have seen pricing for the Core i7-12700K and Core i9-12900K at 469.99 USD and 669.99 USD respectively. Intel is expected to announce these Alder Lake desktop processors during an event on October 27th with general availability expected November 4th.
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By comparison, Navi 21 (they reportedly shipped around 300K of these) is 521mm2. The PS5 APU is 308mm2 and Xbox X is 360mm2. In other words, for every Xbox/PS5 they made they could have made at least two Zen 3. And for every Navi 21 (300K of them) they could have made about 6 Zen 3 chips.
They shipped about 7 million console chips in Q4 2020, so in theory they could have shipped 2x that in Zen 3 + the 1M they did ship, which would have been about 15M Zen 3 if they had not had to supply the console market. On the Navi side, they shipped ~300K but they are 6x larger, so another 2M Zen 3 could have been made. Total is 17M potential - this would be a minimum number though, because these larger dies are going to have lower yield (bigger chance of a chip killing defect with a die 6x larger). Then there's Renoir (zen 2) that they made about 1M of as well. So now we are at 18M+. Also I don't have numbers for TR and such.
But my point really is, desktop Zen 3 only had a token shipment in Q4 2020. IMO it would have been more honest to either delay Zen 3, or delay Navi 21. And yes Intel did these kinds of antics back in the Gen 5 days, they got ripped up for it and haven't done it since.
aka: stating the obvious is ... obvious... who knew...
boring.
But if 12600K comes by to bully my 5600X. Then my 5950X will teach it a lesson or to not to bully the weaker.
But I am mostly interested in how 12 vs 12 threads stand. Specially at the same clock frequency.
Never, ever assume price ranges will stay static.
Look at graphics cards.
i5 'always was, always will be' Dual core, no hyperthreading...That's because intel are easier to cool, and report lower temperatures on top of that.
You needed to adjust your fan curves
I'll will be impressed when I see Alder Lake vs Zen3/3+ running intense FP64 heavy simulations, PS, Matlab, 8K video rendering, etc. I couldn't care less if it crushes Zen in 1080p, because at higher res it matters not.
I have no reservations that Alder Lake is a huge leap for Intel, but let's see at what power usage. However, for me Raptor Lake is well worth waiting for as it will bring 25% IPC uplifts over Golden cove cores alone, and hopefully on refined node will lower power usage. Zen4 also will be huge uplift and will be the biggest architectural change for AMD. Intel may well win bragging rights this year, but I couldn't care less. We need strong competition, and I wouldn't reward Intel at this stage. My next update will be replacing my 1700X in Q1 2023. Will it be Zen 4 or Raptor Lake, only time will tell.
"I scratch your back, you scratch mine."
Disgusting.
I see people so excited about something that is not out. They are so sure they would bet their homes for it and for now it is just a pie in the sky. I'd suggest people to tone down their expectations a notch. Since when those benchmarks ever made sense from either Intel or AMD? It wouldn't be the first time for companies, showing the audience what they want to see and then come different results than expected and arguing and reasoning to justify the outcome by people in the forums.
For me, Intel may turn out to get a 50% improvement in both single and multi thread over previous gen. Realistically speaking, the chance for that is slim. I'd be happy if I see 25% improvement in general performance from Intel. And of course you cant neglect the new platform, new OS, new Ram etc. Which means, you introduce flaws in the equation that may turn out to be the black sheep in the herd which is more likely, than the 50% performance uplift you see in the CPU-z as a general performance improvement over next gen CPUs.
next line once they are here ... because it is obvious that Intel next gen beat amd current gen, it would really be disappointing if not ...
but once the next gen from AMD is here then we can talk, well early adopter will always early adopt, i, on the other hand, will wait and see.actually, back at the 1800x comparison with the 7700K it was something logical, since AMD made a huge comeback with Ryzen introduction ...
as for a 5600X beating a 3yrs old 8800K ... (i know it's not from you, but that one made me laugh) ... it just meant that the R5 5600X would also beat the i5 counterpart of the "same" gen as his.
(well even a R5 3600 can give a i5 10600K/11600K a run for the money, situational, i know but still ... )
i am not specifically a "red" or "blue" fan but Intel strangely disgust me recently ... (not that AMD never did disgust me ... *cough*bulldozer*cough* ah wait no ... it's more disappointment than disgust ... although my FX6300 was not so bad at the time ) i had a fair equal share of Intel/AMD/ATI/Nvidia product over the 11 previous years.
The first problem Intel had was that Zen 2 beat them in various productivity tasks largely due to Zen 2 having more cores.
Then Zen 3 beat them in IPC so badly that even with Gen 10 and higher clocks, Intel couldn't compete and had to lower prices.
Then RKL made Intel competitive on desktop in single thread, but consumed too much power due to 14nm and didn't do anything for the problem they had with Zen 2/3 having more cores.
Alder Lake right now appears to be a clean sweep. We will see when the benchmarks come out and prices are known, but every indication is that AL will defeat comparable Zen 3 SKUs in every category (I'm sure there will be a few outliers). Intel has not been able to say that since 7/2019 when Zen 2 came out.
I would say most are fine with tier v same tier evolved with more core's.
But some, me included are saying 50% is that it.
It's got four extra spare cores and each big core is a IPC king (allegedly), doesn't add up right to me.
Shit there's so many f£#@£ AL threads I got baffled What we were comparing, last point stands though.
Ultimately the comparison will and should be based on price points. Based on what little has leaked on price and assuming it is accurate, AL should force all of the AMD Zen 3 chips down $50-$100 from current prices. If comparisons are done at MSRP as they usually do, AMD will suffer badly until they adjust their MSRPs. Regardless of which brand you prefer, I don't see any of that as a bad thing.
see you on the next "next XXX gen beat current XXX gen" PR ;)