Wednesday, October 27th 2021

Final Intel 12th Gen Core CPU Spec and Pricing Leak Hours Before Official Reveal

For those tired of Intel leaks, please look away now, as this is likely to be one of the last leaks before the official reveal later today. The final specifications, as well as pricing for the first six of Intel's 12th Gen Core CPUs has made an appearance online and the good news is that the official pricing isn't as bad as we've been led to believe, based on earlier leaks and it'll at least make up some of the cost increase of the Z690 motherboards over the Z590 models.

Spec wise, we're not looking at anything unexpected here, it simply verifies what has leaked so far, with one exception, maximum turbo power. Although the base TDP of all six CPUs is 125 W, it seems like Intel is using the maximum turbo power as yet another product differentiator, at least more so than it has previously. The Core i9 CPUs get a maximum turbo power of 241 W, whereas the Core i7's top out at 190 W and the Core i5's at 150 W. At least Intel is being open about it and the question is if it will have any affect on overclocking or not. Obviously having fewer CPUs cores would result in a lower power draw overall, but then the question is why the Core i5's have a base TDP of 125 W.
Price wise, the new Core i9-12900K has a 1K list price of US$589, some $80 cheaper than the leaked pricing from Micro Center, but still about $40-50 more expensive than the 11th Gen Core i9-11900K. The KF SKU is $15 cheaper at US$564, which is a smaller margin than between the 11th Gen K and KF SKUs. Moving down a step to the Core i7 CPUs, the 12700K is listed at US$409, with the KF SKU coming in at US$384, which is in line with the 11th Gen Core i7 parts. Finally the Core i5-12600K is listed at US$289, with the KF SKU at US$264, which is about $15-25 higher than the 11th Gen Core i5 equivalents.
Overall it seems like fair pricing, if Intel delivers in terms of performance and based on some Intel game benchmarks, it looks like the 11th Gen CPUs are going to be outperformed quite easily, whereas it looks like AMD might still hold its own in some titles. We'll have to wait for official reviews next week before we can say if this will hold true or not.
Source: Videocardz
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56 Comments on Final Intel 12th Gen Core CPU Spec and Pricing Leak Hours Before Official Reveal

#26
phanbuey
ViperXTRCan't wait for reviews, the 12600K/F in particular is very interesting
This is my next chip if the leaks are true.
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#27
Zareek
I really hope these are competitive with Zen3+. Some real competition will push the prices down again for both companies. Now if we could only get some of that action on GPUs.
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#28
Arc1t3ct
phanbueyThis is my next chip if the leaks are true.
The leaks are true! Most people are already preordering!!! This is going to be awesome!!!
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#29
defaultluser
Vya DomusThat's not the problem, because of DDR5 we don't know the actual performance of these CPUs since most of the improvements come from DDR5 itself.
Right, when so many early motherboards will be affordable DDR4 jobs, the real impact of buying Alder Lake will be a lot more moot.

Also, I can guarantee you that Zen 3 with stacked SRAM will be faster than Alder Lake running old DDR4; and if you really look at the price premium of buying new DDr5 (more expensive motherboards, plus more expensive modules, plus cant reuse your existing sticks), it's going to be a huge cost hit for 10% better performance!
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#30
thegnome
dicktracy$564 is a steal. Just goes to show how greedy AMD has become. Thank you Intel for saving us.
I suppose you forgot about motherboard pricing? Shows you how greedy Intel has become adding unneccesary features for consumers and locking OC to their top boards which start at 200$+. If they lowered pricing, opened up OC to B-series boards and generally don't stuff low-end stuff full of high-end features then it's a different story.
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#31
Makaveli
thegnomeI suppose you forgot about motherboard pricing? Shows you how greedy Intel has become adding unneccesary features for consumers and locking OC to their top boards which start at 200$+. If they lowered pricing, opened up OC to B-series boards and generally don't stuff low-end stuff full of high-end features then it's a different story.
Motherboards and DDR5 will be expensive so early adopter tax will be in full effect.
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#32
napata
Chrispy_Those prices stated are reseller prices for buying 1000 units at a time.

Street pricing is usually 10-20% higher than that to account for retailer margins. Then add sales tax.
People say this every gen and it's never true. Same old song as when Rocket Lake's prices leaked.

Like the RCP of the 11900k is $539.00 - $549.00and that's also the price you can buy it for. This has been the case for as long as I know for Intel CPUs.
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#33
Crackong
MakaveliMotherboards and DDR5 will be expensive so early adopter tax will be in full effect.
Also a new heatsink / CLC
Some "Leaks" suggest the mounting pressure requirement is doubled for LGA1700
Old heatsinks with a LGA1700 adaptor isn't going to do it.
Hence lead to high temps.
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#34
Chrispy_
napataPeople say this every gen and it's never true. Same old song as when Rocket Lake's prices leaked.

Like the RCP of the 11900k is $539.00 - $549.00and that's also the price you can buy it for. This has been the case for as long as I know for Intel CPUs.
You can get an 11900K for that price now, just as Rocket Lake is about to be replaced, yes.

11900K's official MSRP/list price is $609 compared to the $539 x1000 price on Intel ARK - so 13% higher which is within the 10-20% I stated earler.
Camelcamelcamel or other price-history trackers will prove to you that it did initially sell for the MSRP, with pricing brought into line rapidly by market supply/demand within a few months.

Alder Lake will eventually sell for whatever the market will bear. I'm not going to try and predict the future as I have no more information than you do. If GPUs have told us anything recently, it's that MSRP's are kind of pointless when there's more supply than demand, and whether Alder Lake is desirable enough to whip up high demand depends on the cost of the whole ecosystem (CPU, board, RAM, and cooler if it's a hungry beast - and of course independent reviews).
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#35
xorbe
Is this going to make games run faster than a 9900KS+3080Ti at 4K?
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#36
Chrispy_
xorbeIs this going to make games run faster than a 9900KS+3080Ti at 4K?
CS:GO, yes.
AAA titles with utlra settings? No - because as fast as the 3080Ti is, it's still going to be the bottleneck at 4K.
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#37
B-Real
RandallFlaggIF that pricing is correct, that's gonna blow a hole in AMDs margins. 12600K faster than a 5800X and priced like the street price of a 5600X?

DDR5 is not required for those citing this as an issue. One leaked benchmark showed a 12700K with DDR4-3200 trading blows with the 5950X on PugetBench.
So you believe Intel graphs? Haha.... :D If Intel sets MSRP lower than Ryzen, you know those products will be slower.
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#38
RandallFlagg
B-RealSo you believe Intel graphs? Haha.... :D If Intel sets MSRP lower than Ryzen, you know those products will be slower.
On pricing which I was commenting on, I don't need to believe Intel graphs I can see the pre-order pricing at Best Buy. $269 for a 12600K which by multiple reports bests a 5800X which currently runs about $390 on Amazon.
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#40
Why_Me
MakaveliPrice in CAD

$265 US dollars for the KF. Not bad tbh.
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#41
phanbuey
Why_Me$265 US dollars for the KF. Not bad tbh.
IMO - that is the one to get once cheaper mobos are available. Right now it's a bit of a hard sell coming off a 10850K esp since im gaming at 4k... so im not sure there will be enough difference to matter. Going to wait for reviews. 12600KF sold out of Newegg preorder at $300 within minutes :/
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#42
RandallFlagg
phanbueyIMO - that is the one to get once cheaper mobos are available. Right now it's a bit of a hard sell coming off a 10850K esp since im gaming at 4k... so im not sure there will be enough difference to matter. Going to wait for reviews. 12600KF sold out of Newegg preorder at $300 within minutes :/
I saw best buy had pre-order left for 12700K earlier, but sold out now.
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#43
arni-gx
so my new comet lake will become obselete if face to face with price performance per watt from this new alder lake.... ??
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#44
Why_Me
arni-gxso my new comet lake will become obselete if face to face with price performance for watt from this new alder lake.... ??
It depends on the price of motherboards and if you choose to go with DDR5 or DDR4. As it is the Z690 boards with DDR5 look to be a hose job for the average consumer which leaves the B660 w/DDR4 lineup. The down side to that is audio codec .. the B560 boards have the older Realtek 897 codec due to limited PCIe lanes (bandwidth). Hopefully that isn't the case with the B660 boards.
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#45
Crackong
arni-gxso my new comet lake will become obselete if face to face with price performance for watt from this new alder lake.... ??
If you care about price performance per watt
Maybe stick to Comet Lake and wait for Meteor Lake.

Early adopter tax is really heavy for this generation.
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#47
mama
Lot's of next generation features. Architecture, Gen 5, DRRM5. Lots to go sidewise but hopefully they can sort it. "A brave decision, Prime Minister".
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#48
DeathtoGnomes
RandallFlaggwww.hardwaretimes.com/intel-core-i7-12700k-content-creation-benchmarks-surface-faster-than-ryzen-9-5900x/

vs 5900X :



Original - the fastest scoring 5950X in their database gets a 1575 vs this 12700K score of 1565 using DDR4 :

You really expect me to believe that? :roll: I wont even ask how Puget releases a review before anyone else, let alone their own made up benchmark tool...

only credible testing by non-schills will convince me.
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#49
RandallFlagg
DeathtoGnomesYou really expect me to believe that? :roll: I wont even ask how Puget releases a review before anyone else, let alone their own made up benchmark tool...

only credible testing by non-schills will convince me.
It's not a review, they got it the same way Geekbench does, someone ran their benchmark and uploaded it to their database. This happens on every chip every time a new one comes out.
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#50
ThrashZone
Hi,
Local micro center finally lists 12 series chips
Shows them as 16 core 649.99 with an already 20.us discount.
Looks like they might have reserve on it to instead of instore only.
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