Monday, December 6th 2021
AMD and Intel Announce Online Press Events on January 4, 2022
January 4, 2022 could be a date of major product announcements by both AMD and Intel as part of their International CES 2022 plans. Both companies will host virtual press-meets on that day, and are expected to unveil several product lines. AMD could shed more like on its Ryzen "Vermeer-S" Socket AM4 desktop processors, possible updates to its Ryzen 5000 mobile product stack; as well as put out some juicy nuggets of info on its future "Zen 4" processors; while Intel will significantly expand its 12th Gen Core "Alder Lake" family across both its desktop and mobile segments, along with more info on its Arc "Alchemist" gaming GPU. The AMD event is slated for 8 AM Pacific, while the Intel one goes up two hours later, at 10 AM Pacific. We will be live-blogging both.
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31 Comments on AMD and Intel Announce Online Press Events on January 4, 2022
AMD claim it's worth a 10-15% performance boost
I don't think AMD wants to remind people about the 3000XTseries right now..
AMD will have Zen 3D, though I'd bet it'll be late Q1 before we see much shipping product. I don't think there is a whole lot else coming from AMD for the next 6 months.
All of that I think is expected by those who keep up with this sort of thing.
If Intel also premieres the new Arc GPUs, that'll be worth watching. That could really shake up the GPU market.
It's also going to rely on LPDDR5X to get those good iGPU performance numbers, which is going to be expensive. It's the same issue Tiger Lake had with Xe graphics, crippled on cheaper DDR4-3200 laptops and most LPDDR4X-4266 laptops were much more expensive.
www.techpowerup.com/289471/asus-prepares-rog-zephyrus-duo-gx650-laptop-with-upcoming-amd-ryzen-9-6900hx-and-nvidia-geforce-rtx-3080-tiThis time they seem to be doing it differently and present mobile and desktop at the same time tho. If desktop CPU sales (mindfactory) have slowed down for both brands, maybe as a consequence of the lack of decently priced retail graphics cards, it could have made an impact on future launch dates.
Mass production for the next desktop CPU's started two months after the mobile APU's.
What's odd about it is that supposedly it is Zen 3+, yet I see no difference in the cache spec on leaks vs 5900X. I do see it uses DDR5-4800 though. That is very strange since that is supposed to be a Zen 4 thing. Perhaps the leak should have said LPDDR5, which would be a bit more believable.
It is interesting that they may bring Zen 3D to laptop first though.
1 - lack of competition (then). Four models of the 5000X was enough one year ago, because AMD had loads of older models to sell. Lack of competition also caused the higher prices I guess.
2 - production running behind. Suddenly TSMC couldn't make enough chips for anything. Dunno if AMD planned lower priced 5000 CPU's, but there was no point in introducing anything new as there wasn't enough capacity even for the existing models.
We'll see what happens soon. My guess is that there will be four new 6000 CPU's, with the addition of lower end 5000 models. No point in using 3D cache on a 3300X successor.
Another way to go is having desktop APU's used for the lower end chips, didn't AMD talk about doing this? Don't quote me on that.
Also, most if not all AM5 chips will have graphics (they say) which would only make APU's even more common.
Perhaps they're re defining the bottom end.
I'm lost on your last comment how is the new cough 2060 an example of AMDS failing strategy?, And what's the relevance to a pr release about a press event.
As for the lack of low core count Zen 3 CPUs, we know why that is, they're yields at tsmc are in a way too good.
So few are binned with more than two failed cores they are struggling to keep the 12 cores in stock and few CPU's are available with less than six cores.
I doubt you think they should be lasering cores off to make low end part's,and that's not happening, they're saleable at a higher price level and in demand.
Nvidia and AMD will have a problem in the GPU space if they allow intel to capture the retail consumer market. Once you've gotten mind share, it is difficult to get it back, and there is no guarantee that Crypto will continue to be a market that they can count on. If Crypto collapses, and Intel has captured let's say hypothetically 50% of the consumer GPU market in the mean time, then Nvidia in particular (AMD to a lesser extent) is well and truly cooked. Mindshare and brand loyalty is a real thing, which is what I was referencing with the Ford vs GM people.
So I think this 2060 12GB is an attempt to keep that mind share within retail.
As far as desktop CPUs, it took AMD a long long while to come out with 5600G and 5700G. Even with those, using Newegg as an example, AMD CPUs we have one at $89 a 3000G FM2+ which is a hopelessly obsolete dual core, and then it gaps up to the 5600G at $240. Intel has probably a dozen SKUs that cover that gap right now on two different architectures (RKL and CML) using the same socket, and just above it sits current Alder Lake - soon to also cover that gap.
Regardless of why they really don't have anything worth a crap below $240, and they really don't have many modern SKUs in total. If they wanted to fill that space, they would have. They simply didn't want to - because the higher end parts make more money.
I could chat about my local market but what's the point.
As in not launching any lower end chips, it was simply too close to the next product launch. It was not feasible last winter/spring/summer because of what I said above. Yeah, this should have been my 3:rd point..