Friday, December 24th 2021

Intel Bans Chinese Components from Xinjiang Province, Turns Around and Apologises to China

In a very confusing move, Intel has informed its suppliers that it won't accept components that have been made in or by labour from the Xinjiang Province in China, only to turn around almost instantly and apologise to China for the fact that it has done so. That said, Intel doesn't appear to have changed its mind, the company simply apologised due to the backlash from Chinese citizens, who are threatening to boycott Intel products.

Part of the reasoning behind the ban of components from the Xinjiang Province is said to be due to US laws and is apparently not entirely in line with Intel's own views on the situation. A statement from Intel said "We apologize for the distress caused to our esteemed Chinese customers, partners and the general public," although it's unclear if this is going to be enough to calm the Chinese public, which tend to be able to stir up quite a lot of trouble for foreign companies in China that are seem to be anti China.
Sources: Taiwan News, Tom's hardware
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61 Comments on Intel Bans Chinese Components from Xinjiang Province, Turns Around and Apologises to China

#26
ahadele
Hi guys. The most important thing here is: is it true that Chinese government were forcing Uyghurs to farm cotton?

I believe people in techPowerup are smart enough to figure this out just by 10 mins of google.
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#27
zlobby
OK, a sincere question here - if I was to put that 'Chintel' flag in the comments, I'd get the ban hammer for politicizing the thread. So, at what point it's considered a thread hijacking or straying from the main topic?

Not that I'm keeping a reputation but I've been slapped for less.
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#28
sepheronx
Never throw a stone from a glass house.
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#29
MentalAcetylide
claesStop off-shoring production for costs, pay workers more, make better product = profit.
It sounds good, just like building a better longer lasting product that can be repaired at a reasonable cost instead of throwing everything away when it breaks. Unfortunately, this involves tearing down and completely revamping the entire financial system and doing away with the stock market.

When you're a profit driven company that has to answer to shareholders, there's only so many different places you can reduce cost to increase profit, and most of it is geared towards cutting production cost, which often gets shifted to the individual busting their ass on the production line. Its as clear as night and day that this has been going on in long-time capitalist countries of the world, particularly in the US, where your average production worker barely makes enough to support themselves, much less a family. The cost of everything goes up and wages stagnate while employers keep expecting more and more from their workers.
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#30
TheEndIsNear
I worked with a guy that was U.S.A. all the way. Then he started reading history. Now he says we are really the worst country. Which as a citizen I can say I totally agree. Money over people just sad
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#31
MentalAcetylide
sepheronxNever throw a stone from a glass house.
That would be "never throw stones in glass houses.... unless the glass was treated in molten potassium".
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#33
MentalAcetylide
TheEndIsNearI worked with a guy that was U.S.A. all the way. Then he started reading history. Now he says we are really the worst country. Which as a citizen I can say I totally agree. Money over people just sad
No doubt we're probably the worst offenders, but the whole world is in on it, one way or another. Its all about the money and status.
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#34
phanbuey
TheEndIsNearI worked with a guy that was U.S.A. all the way. Then he started reading history. Now he says we are really the worst country. Which as a citizen I can say I totally agree. Money over people just sad
I have a piece of the berlin wall, a picture of my grandpa that vanished in my houuse, and was only taught approved history from the USSR. If you think you're the worst country then you've clearly not lived in other places.

You won't believe how much worse it can get.
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#35
R-T-B
zlobbyOK, a sincere question here - if I was to put that 'Chintel' flag in the comments, I'd get the ban hammer for politicizing the thread. So, at what point it's considered a thread hijacking or straying from the main topic?

Not that I'm keeping a reputation but I've been slapped for less.
I've read a lot of history too and I wouldn't go so far as to say we are the worst country, but we are a podium finish contender. A lot of national pride is sucked out of you with an accurate history lesson.

Still, I love America. I just take history as an impetus to hopefully do better.
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#36
MentalAcetylide
phanbueyI have a piece of the berlin wall, a picture of my grandpa that vanished in my houuse, and was only taught approved history from the USSR. If you think you're the worst country then you've clearly not lived in other places.

You won't believe how much worse it can get.
You could say that we're on the worst ends of two different spectrum. Capitalism, Communism, Socialism, Feudalism, etc., all have their differences and will work(although whether they're a just system is a completely different matter altogether). The problem is that any and all systems are prone to degrading into a monster, which is an inevitable cycle that all "isms" fall victim to.
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#37
GoldenX
"Is Trump gone? Are you sure?"
"WAAAAAAH we're so sowwyyyyyyy!"
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#38
R-T-B
GoldenX"Is Trump gone? Are you sure?"
"WAAAAAAH we're so sowwyyyyyyy!"
Yes, because everyone knows no corperation was ever sorry for anything silly under Trump.
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#39
xkm1948
When you think TPU news piece cannot sink lower, it starts peddling mainstream media’s new cold war political BS.

Guess I am done here. What a cesspool level of news and comments.
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#40
R-T-B
phanbueyI have a piece of the berlin wall, a picture of my grandpa that vanished in my houuse, and was only taught approved history from the USSR. If you think you're the worst country then you've clearly not lived in other places.

You won't believe how much worse it can get.
It's not about what the USA does to itself, historically, that puts it up there. It's about it's impact on other nations (and historical abuse of internal minorities).
xkm1948When you think TPU news piece cannot sink lower, it starts peddling mainstream media’s new cold war political BS.

Guess I am done here. What a cesspool level of news and comments.
I feel you. The comments are (and always have been) especially bad.

My advice is either to a.) stop caring or b.) just ignore the news and stick to the discussions. You can of course acomplish b.) by leaving too, but I would miss your input.
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#41
GoldenX
R-T-BYes, because everyone knows no corperation was ever sorry for anything silly under Trump.
Everyone seems to be John Cena now.
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#42
zlobby
R-T-BI've read a lot of history too and I wouldn't go so far as to say we are the worst country, but we are a podium finish contender. A lot of national pride is sucked out of you with an accurate history lesson.

Still, I love America. I just take history as an impetus to hopefully do better.
Hiding behind a 'country' is the same as hiding behind a party or an ideology. You're basically offloading the personal guilt to a collective one, essentially waiving any responsibility for your actions.
My point is that there are no good or bad countries; there are azzhøles who hide behind someone or something.
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#44
phanbuey
R-T-BIt's not about what the USA does to itself, historically, that puts it up there. It's about it's impact on other nations (and historical abuse of internal minorities).


I feel you. The comments are (and always have been) especially bad.

My advice is either to a.) stop caring or b.) just ignore the news and stick to the discussions. You can of course acomplish b.) by leaving too, but I would miss your input.
The Citizens of the United States are allowed to read about it, call it out, and change it going forward... which is a pretty important change -- and the only one of hegemonic/colonial powers that allowed this at their peak... (Rome, Genghis Khan, Caliphate, United Kingdom, France, Japan, Germany, China, USSR etc. etc.).

American companies are being squeezed right now especially because all they care about is money and at the same time the citizens are demanding that they also have morals and standards. So you get this nonsense where intel "Condemns Chinese human rights abuses, then apologizes to the Chinese the condemnation..."

Good on sites like this for calling our their BS.

I think you need a self-correcting system like this especially as we get more advanced into AI, space travel, etc. The challenge will be improving it and making more transparent.
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#45
zlobby
ahadeleHi guys. The most important thing here is: is it true that Chinese government were forcing Uyghurs to farm cotton?

I believe people in techPowerup are smart enough to figure this out just by 10 mins of google.
It's not just them. History is full of exames of people with power abusing people without.

Although I feel the connection to tech in this 'article', I think people are straying a bit from the context.
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#46
Unregistered
Be certain, if it was me that posted some of these comments, i would certainly be getting a holiday from TPU.
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#47
zlobby
TiggerBe certain, if it was me that posted some of these comments, i would certainly be getting a holiday from TPU.
I feel you, my igger with a 'T'! :D

Inb4 I'm being called a Klansman, that was intended as a pure joke, aimed specifically to prove the point.
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#48
R-T-B
GoldenXEveryone seems to be John Cena now.
Corperations have always been PR machines. This did not change mystically under Trump.
zlobbyI feel you, my igger with a 'T'! :D

Inb4 I'm being called a Klansman, that was intended as a pure joke, aimed specifically to prove the point.
No ones going to call you a Klansman for acknowledging bad/racist history (at least no one sensible).
phanbueyThe Citizens of the United States are allowed to read about it, call it out, and change it going forward... which is a pretty important change -- and the only one of hegemonic/colonial powers that allowed this at their peak...
Which is why I said they aren't the worst, but still "on the podium."
ahadeleI hope that's not the only source you got to have a critical thinking.
Try google. You'll find more. Of course it's not the only source.
zlobbyHiding behind a 'country' is the same as hiding behind a party or an ideology. You're basically offloading the personal guilt to a collective one, essentially waiving any responsibility for your actions.
I can personally state that I have no personal responsibility for any attrocities commited by the USA, and I have personally opposed them where possible within my powers as a citizen. Unsure what point you are trying to make? Humans group things.
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#50
claes
MentalAcetylideIt sounds good, just like building a better longer lasting product that can be repaired at a reasonable cost instead of throwing everything away when it breaks. Unfortunately, this involves tearing down and completely revamping the entire financial system and doing away with the stock market.

When you're a profit driven company that has to answer to shareholders, there's only so many different places you can reduce cost to increase profit, and most of it is geared towards cutting production cost, which often gets shifted to the individual busting their ass on the production line. Its as clear as night and day that this has been going on in long-time capitalist countries of the world, particularly in the US, where your average production worker barely makes enough to support themselves, much less a family. The cost of everything goes up and wages stagnate while employers keep expecting more and more from their workers.
Agreed — no reason to blame consumers/workers when corporations yield soooo much more power.
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