Wednesday, December 29th 2021

AMD Rumored to Introduce Radeon Super Resolution (RSR) Upscale Tech in Early 2022

The image upscaling wars keep grassing, with AMD and NVIDIA claiming as many integrations as possible for their respective FSR (FidelityFX Super Resolution) and DLSS (Deep-Learning Super Sampling) technologies in a bid to achieve maximum market share for their respective technologies. While the entire world was now focusing on Intel's own addition to the image upscaling wars with its XeSS (XE SuperSampling) tech, AMD is apparently looking to introduce a new upscaling tech as early as January 2022. Enter Radeon Super Resolution (RSR).

Right off the bat, do not expect RSR to be AMD's answer to the perceived image quality advantage of NVIDIA's deep-learning-powered DLSS compared to AMD's more open (and cross-hardware compatible) FSR. Instead, AMD seems to be targeting RSR as a game-agnostic upscaling solution that's based on FSR, but which can be enabled at the Radeon driver level for any game that supports exclusive full-screen rendering. AMD is seemingly moving its image upscaling technique further up in the graphics pipeline, which should impact upscaling quality (as there's less information for the image upscaler to work with). What this does enable, however, is an agnostic solution that can be deployed in any game - provided you're rocking one of the two rumored architectures that will support RSR (RDNA and RDNA2, in the form of AMD's RX-5000 and RX-6000 series). Considering the expected release of RSR, it's likely that AMD will have an official announcement around CES 2022, despite the fact that the company won't be physically present due to COVID-19 and logistics concerns.
Source: Videocardz
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65 Comments on AMD Rumored to Introduce Radeon Super Resolution (RSR) Upscale Tech in Early 2022

#26
nguyen
InVasManiHonestly I'm less interested in Nvidia's deep learning super smearing than I am about AMD's scaling technology. We'll have to wait and see how AMD improves things, but FSR was a good starting point and infinity cache makes things interesting on the post process side it could be a real game changer.
honestly if all AMD has at CES is NIS competitor, it's mighty dissapointing, if I need higher FPS, I would downgrade to a 1080p monitor instead of using 4K NIS/RSR :rolleyes:
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#27
Vayra86
wolfGave me a good laugh with this one, the cope is strong.
The cognitive dissonance apparently is stronger. Your cult following here is two right now though, maybe three or four, equallying the relative percent of RTX owners on TPU :D Keep at it and enjoy RTX while it just works.

DLSS is a tradeoff and its easy to see that you trade blur and washed out color for aliased edges. Boy what's new. This was the story of AA since 1999. Except AA is now a universally applied tech, which DLSS will never be. All this is, is yet another way to arrange pixels for you.

Come on, nothing new here, except some sliders to adjust quality. There are no magic bullets, only new illusions. Each with their own drawbacks. Its not even a battle or discussion either, I'm genuinely not missing the tech at all. I do much prefer that we now get internal resolution sliders with every game. That's an advantage that will work universally and isn't meant to boost sales for the next best thing.

History repeats
www.kotaku.com.au/2011/12/what-is-fxaa/


Next came TAA, but hey, why not stack another layer of blur on top?

nguyenFor CP2077, the difference DLSS bring is tremendous, it allows the usage of Ultra RT (Reflections, shadows and lighting) which make CP2077 a next gen game visually.
CP2077 4K High vs 4K Ultra RT DLSS

Also no one is forcing anyone to play at Ultra setttings, DLSS with High settings also give additional FPS that can improve gaming experience
You know that only a very tiny subset of those reflections and lights is RT right? Ultra is available just fine for everyone, which is that 'next-gen' feel you speak of. Everyone's seen it, no worries.
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#28
mechtech
But will it work on my RX480, since it looks like I will be using it until windows 12 at this rate ;)
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#29
TheHughMan
Will AMD Rumor to introduce available Radeon graphics cards to go with Super resolution?
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#30
ARF
mechtechBut will it work on my RX480, since it looks like I will be using it until windows 12 at this rate ;)
Unfortunately, today there isn't one AMD graphics cards that is worth the penny. You can get a miserable RX 6600 non-XT for whooping €555,00-600,00 :eek: :confused: :kookoo:
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#31
mechtech
ARFUnfortunately, today there isn't one AMD graphics cards that is worth the penny. You can get a miserable RX 6600 non-XT for whooping €555,00-600,00 :eek: :confused: :kookoo:
There isn't any gaming card worth the money that's being listed by e-tailers/retailers. Period.
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#32
GamerGuy
ARFUnfortunately, today there isn't one AMD graphics cards that is worth the penny. You can get a miserable RX 6600 non-XT for whooping €555,00-600,00 :eek: :confused: :kookoo:
Why just AMD? As mechtech has pointed out, this is true for ALL recent gaming cards (and that includes nVidia as well)
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#33
Foxiol
DLSS gave more life to my 2080S at 4K since I play in a 55" LG 4K OLED TV (when the game came out couldn't reach more than 35FPS and had to play in 1440p at that time), hope AMD can do the same with their GPU's.

Can't upload images because they are too large for TPU and won't upload to other hosts because it will loose quality...but images in DLSS with the game maxed out look amazing, super clear, you can't tell those are not native...oh and I can reach 60FPS as well. Cool technology no doubt of it.
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#34
wolf
Better Than Native
Vayra86The cognitive dissonance apparently is stronger.
Vayra86DLSS is a tradeoff and its easy to see
Well I can say this, actually owing an RTX card allows me to test all the available options, and see the results with my own eyes, so I don't have any need or desire for people who don't even use it, to tell me how crap it is. It really baffles me why this even occurs, surely there are better hills to die on?
Vayra86Your cult following
Oh please, you only air your own bias by saying empty statements like this.

let's remember what I was originally quoting - "I can always reduce my resolution and the game settings from ultra-high to very-high, and still get a better image quality than anything Nvidia offers."

That's just silly to say it will be better than anything Nvidia offers. Of course anyone is welcome to lower settings and resolution as they see fit, and for real, a lot of "ultra" settings are dumb over their high counterparts, but what's to stop someone using optimized settings and then also DLSS instead of 'reduce the resolution' for it's superior reconstruction and AA.

Don't like it because NVidia made it? sure, because it's proprietary and take some time to implement well? why not. Cherry pick titles/implementations to try and show off washed out colours and ghosting? fun I guess...

Me? I'll use it myself and make up my own mind what looks and performs better.
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#35
ARF
GamerGuyWhy just AMD?
Because only AMD makes decent and right graphics cards. And you know it.
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#36
wolf
Better Than Native
ARFBecause only AMD makes decent and right graphics cards.
What does this even mean, 'right' graphics cards lol. As for decent, let's just say millions (majority) of pc gamers beg to differ.
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#37
GamerGuy
wolfWhat does this even mean, 'right' graphics cards lol. As for decent, let's just say millions (majority) of pc gamers beg to differ.
He was just joking, and unless my sarcasm detector is out of kilter, he was being sarcastic....as for your statement "let's just say millions (majority) of pc gamers beg to differ', that may be true. But only because many are sorta like iSheep (my fav term for iPhone/Apple fanatics), they just don't know any better! And yes, I'm being somewhat facetious....:D
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#38
ARF
wolfWhat does this even mean, 'right' graphics cards lol. As for decent, let's just say millions (majority) of pc gamers beg to differ.
Millions of PC gamers are on the wrong side, the evil side. You know Nvidia is a corrupted company that cheats.
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#39
wolf
Better Than Native
ARFMillions of PC gamers are on the wrong side, the evil side. You know Nvidia is a corrupted company that cheats.
My heart truly bleeds for anyone who feels the way you do...

I couldn't give two farts what you think about the company, they make great products, of which I will consider every time I need a new gpu, this time they happened to offer the upgrade I wanted, at the price I expected.

So I guess by this standard I'm reprehensible too? Well just know I lose no sleep over it, and I hope you don't either.
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#40
Turmania
Why do I have a feeling next gen flagship gpu's will hover around 600W power usage.
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#41
ARF
wolfMy heart truly bleeds for anyone who feels the way you do...

I couldn't give two farts what you think about the company, they make great products, of which I will consider every time I need a new gpu, this time they happened to offer the upgrade I wanted, at the price I expected.

So I guess by this standard I'm reprehensible too? Well just know I lose no sleep over it, and I hope you don't either.
I think Nvidia makes very poor products which are very far and distant from the high level of requirement that I have.
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#42
wolf
Better Than Native
ARFI think Nvidia makes very poor products which are very far and distant from the high level of requirement that I have.
So, what are these product requirements then?
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#43
ARF
wolfSo, what are these product requirements then?
Made by Sapphire,
enthusiast level of performance in less than 250-watt TDP,
16 GB of VRAM,
Radeon Image Sharpening, Matrox 2D image quality or equivalent,
Radeon Software modern user interface or equivalent,
high resolution textures in-game at all times (hello 10 GB RTX 3080 lol),
decent pricing,
more customer-oriented and competition-friendly general focus,
you-name-it.
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#44
wolf
Better Than Native
ARFNvidia makes very poor products which are very far and distant from the high level of requirement that I have.... Made by Sapphire... Radeon Software...you-name-it...
Righto, so requirements you've quite selectively and particularly chosen to be exactly what AMD can offer an exactly what NVidia cannot.

Cool. Got it. Thanks for the chat! I don't think I've got anything more to gain from conversing with you. Have fun choosing from only one company instead of multiple.
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#45
Recus
FSR is blurrier than FXAA/TXAA/DLSS1 combined.

imgsli.com/NjE5MzU/0/1

AMD pushing it because they know they won't be called out for blur.
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#47
InVasMani
RecusFSR is blurrier than FXAA/TXAA/DLSS1 combined.

imgsli.com/NjE5MzU/0/1

AMD pushing it because they know they won't be called out for blur.
FSR Quality looks better than FSR UQ in that example. Also FXAA/TAA/TXAA/DLSS aren't the same. FSR was considered too sharp initially hell that's what caused Nvidia to release Image Scaling with 100% sharpen that the DLSS likes to recommend even though they complained about ringing artifacts and halo's in reverse. I mean apparently sharpening is just fine so long as it's for Nvidia's tech is the take away. If it's for AMD though zoom in to 1600x and point it out.
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#48
Vayra86
ARFMillions of PC gamers are on the wrong side, the evil side. You know Nvidia is a corrupted company that cheats.
Oh come on... hasnt this level of gullible died yet? There is only one thing: competition.
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#49
ARF
Vayra86Oh come on... hasnt this level of gullible died yet? There is only one thing: competition.
Yeah... but:
The Nvidia GeForce Partner Program was a marketing program designed to provide partnering companies with benefits such as public relations support, video game bundling, and marketing development funds.[1] The program proved to be controversial, with complaints about it possibly being an anti-competitive practice.[2] Nvidia canceled the program in May 2018.[3][4]
GeForce Partner Program - Wikipedia
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#50
InVasMani
Feel free to compare the aliasing between TAA and FSR in that RE:Village example you'd be surprised which looks like it does pretty much nothing in regard to aliasing and which cleans up pretty much most of it.
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