Monday, January 24th 2022
Intel Not Happy About BCLK Overclocking of 12th Gen CPUs, Warns of Damage
You may, or may not have noticed that in certain parts of the interweb, groups of people that are generally referred to as "Overclockers" have managed to get their cheap Celeron G6900's and Core i3-12100's to run at much higher clock speeds than Intel intended and now the company is unhappy about it, as they're anticipating that they're going to lose sales of more expensive CPUs. As such, Intel has issued a warning via Tom's Hardware
"Intel's 12th Gen non-K processors were not designed for overclocking. Intel does not warranty the operation of processors beyond their specifications. Altering clock frequency or voltage may damage or reduce the useful life of the processor and other system components, and may reduce system stability and performance."
Jokes aside, the lower end SKU's of Intel's 12th gen Alder Lake CPUs seem to be phenomenal overclockers, if you have the right motherboards. If the motherboard doesn't have an external clock gen, plus support for adjusting the BCLK on non-K CPUs, then you're not going to have much luck. This means, at least at the moment, that you're looking at fairly pricey Z690 motherboard, although there are rumors that we can expect the odd B660 motherboard that will get an external clock gen, with at least three models already reported to have BCLK adjustment support via beta UEFI updates. Pro Overclockers have already managed to hit speeds in excess of 5.3 GHz with the Celeron G6900 and that is only by adjusting the BCLK and the Voltage, which is no mean feat, as the CPU has fixed clock speed of 3.4 GHz, which makes this a 57 percent boost in clock speed. Intel is said to be looking into this unintended ability to overclock these CPU SKUs and is apparently looking at locking down this ability with a new microcode update in a future UEFI release.
Update: Added a screenshot from TPU's upcoming Core i3-12100F review, showing 5.2 GHz at 130 MHz BCLK.
Source:
Tom's Hardware
"Intel's 12th Gen non-K processors were not designed for overclocking. Intel does not warranty the operation of processors beyond their specifications. Altering clock frequency or voltage may damage or reduce the useful life of the processor and other system components, and may reduce system stability and performance."
Jokes aside, the lower end SKU's of Intel's 12th gen Alder Lake CPUs seem to be phenomenal overclockers, if you have the right motherboards. If the motherboard doesn't have an external clock gen, plus support for adjusting the BCLK on non-K CPUs, then you're not going to have much luck. This means, at least at the moment, that you're looking at fairly pricey Z690 motherboard, although there are rumors that we can expect the odd B660 motherboard that will get an external clock gen, with at least three models already reported to have BCLK adjustment support via beta UEFI updates. Pro Overclockers have already managed to hit speeds in excess of 5.3 GHz with the Celeron G6900 and that is only by adjusting the BCLK and the Voltage, which is no mean feat, as the CPU has fixed clock speed of 3.4 GHz, which makes this a 57 percent boost in clock speed. Intel is said to be looking into this unintended ability to overclock these CPU SKUs and is apparently looking at locking down this ability with a new microcode update in a future UEFI release.
Update: Added a screenshot from TPU's upcoming Core i3-12100F review, showing 5.2 GHz at 130 MHz BCLK.
139 Comments on Intel Not Happy About BCLK Overclocking of 12th Gen CPUs, Warns of Damage
10th gen having a new socket is just a big fuckyou, but thats just intel for you i guess, but i wouldnt really rate amd's fuckyou for x370 early adopters any lower tbh, quite irrespective of what they've (re-)committed to patching 2 years later, the damage's already done
You either missed a few posts of didn't read the thread all the way through. I was just talking specifically about AMD in response to Tigger. You don't need to convince me of the Intel shenanigans; I'm basically a part-time S.I. validator at this point and have personally built hundreds of S1151 machines across all three generations for internal and external customers.
*$400 dollar CPU required for 4 cores /8 threads
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EDIT - And whilst I remember I think correctly (I'm getting old, the grey matter might not be holding data like it once was...) was the i3 6320 the same when they had to physically patch BIOS's of motherboards to stop this from happening??.....
You replied to Stimpy:with this claim that Ryzen users have to update their BIOSMussels then made a counter-claim against you:And I countered Mussels counter-claim with this.Makes perfect sense to me in the correct chronological order of posts; I'm not sure where the comprehension failure is coming from :)
www.techspot.com/review/2391-intel-core-i7-12700/
Alder Lake is pretty damn impressive - enough to make Zen3 look decidedly last-gen - but Intel
107 is nowhere near as strong as TSMC7 and the new laptops will be competing with TSMC6 which is supposed to be around 15% more efficient for the same clocks. At lower wattage Alder Lake is still a very formidable competitor but even against older TSMC7 Zen3 chips it's not a definitive win.Maby they need to take a page from AMD's book and just stop locking it down altogether
instead of repeating the age-old "overclocking may damage Your hardware" lie
if that was true at all then there would be a lot more dead K-SKU's dead too because its the same silicon it just doesn't have the multiplier unlocked
www.newegg.com/amd-ryzen-7-5800x/p/N82E16819113665
AMD Ryzen 7 5800X $349.99
www.newegg.com/msi-mag-b550-tomahawk/p/N82E16813144326
MSI MAG B550 TOMAHAWK $179.99
www.msi.com/Motherboard/MAG-B550-TOMAHAWK
www.newegg.com/intel-core-i7-12700f-core-i7-12th-gen/p/N82E16819118359
Intel Core i7-12700F $318.99
www.amazon.com/MSI-Mortar-Gaming-Motherboard-Socket/dp/B09PXD16F6/
MSI MAG B660M Mortar WiFi DDR4 $179.99
www.msi.com/Motherboard/MAG-B660M-MORTAR-WIFI-DDR4
www.techspot.com/review/2391-intel-core-i7-12700/
None.
The point was not which is best at gaming but can people OC a 12100 etc and gain MORE than base performance.
How's about you try and not make it about us v them all the time in irrelevant ways.
You only just found this thread, no sir.
Without checking I doubt it but go you we can now have another flame war eh we have no threads for that, oh wait.