Wednesday, March 23rd 2022
AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D Geekbenched, About 9% Faster Than 5800X
Someone with access to an AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D processor sample posted some of the first Geekbench 5 performance numbers for the chip, where it ends up 9% faster than the Ryzen 7 5800X, on average. AMD claimed that the 5800X3D is "the world's fastest gaming processor," with the 3D Vertical Cache (3D V-cache) technology offering gaming performance uplifts over the 5800X akin to a new generation, despite being based on the same "Zen 3" microarchitecture, and lower clock speeds. The Ryzen 7 5800X3D is shown posting scores of 1633 points 1T and 11250 points nT in one run; and 1637/11198 points in the other; when paired with 32 GB of dual-channel DDR4-3200 memory.
These are 9% faster than a typical 5800X score on this benchmark. AMD's own gaming performance claims see the 5800X3D score a performance uplift above 20% over the 5800X, closing the gap with the Intel Core i9-12900K. The 3D V-cache technology debuted earlier this week with the EPYC "Milan-X" processors, where the additional cache provides huge performance gains for applications with large data-sets. AMD isn't boasting too much about the multi-threaded productivity performance of the 5800X3D because this is ultimately an 8-core/16-thread processor that's bound to lose to the Ryzen 9 5900X/5950X, and the i9-12900K, on account of its lower core-count.
Source:
Wccftech
These are 9% faster than a typical 5800X score on this benchmark. AMD's own gaming performance claims see the 5800X3D score a performance uplift above 20% over the 5800X, closing the gap with the Intel Core i9-12900K. The 3D V-cache technology debuted earlier this week with the EPYC "Milan-X" processors, where the additional cache provides huge performance gains for applications with large data-sets. AMD isn't boasting too much about the multi-threaded productivity performance of the 5800X3D because this is ultimately an 8-core/16-thread processor that's bound to lose to the Ryzen 9 5900X/5950X, and the i9-12900K, on account of its lower core-count.
105 Comments on AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D Geekbenched, About 9% Faster Than 5800X
Incoming bitter alarmists any second now, who feel backstabbed lol.
Nobody ever said X3D would raise performance equally across any workload.Yeah, a lower score than that wouldn't have surprised me.
Wanna bet its an engineering sample? We dont know any facts,
nor what build its in, so shouldnt be taken as fact, wait for the real reviews.I hope it will fix the issues that zen 3 had in gaming, basically the performance was...let's say, very inconsistent. For example, since I play a lot of warzone, there are areas in the game that the 5950x obliterated everything getting 400+ fps (while my 10900k got around 300-320), and then there are areas where the 5950x couldn't even much an 8700k at 150 fps, while my 10900 was getting 200-220.
You can see it here in Warzone on heavily tuned CPUs:
5800X is more consistent on avg vs lows vs 10700K than 5950X is vs 10900K and 12900K.
In general though there are very few games where Zen3 struggles with 1% lows although 2 CCDs tends to have worse lows vs Intel and 1 CCDs. In some games Intel fare far worse, check Troy at 17:40.
Isn't this uplift in Geekbench mainly in multicore? Why would we see an ever greater uplift in gaming, which mainly cares for single / low core speed?
Single core result actually seems to be even lower than standard 5800X:
5800X3D: 1637 single-core, 11250 multi-threaded points.
5800X: 1671 points single-core, 10333 points in the multi-core tests.
Some games care a lot about latency, some games prefer bandwith. Watch the other gametests on i2hard. Cyberpunk and Troy don`t care about latency, but loves BW. DDR5 which has bad latency destroys DDR4, but check out Star craft 2, it loves latency and DDR4 is much better than DDR5 :)
"Games care about memory / cache latency first, and then single thread performance."
Any proof of this? I've seen a lot of Ryzen overclocking, optimisation videos, and while you can benefit from lower memory latency and higher memory speed, it's usually very cherry picked results, like 0.1% lows in a couple of carefully selected games. Any benchmarking with wider array of games has shown very little performance uplift from cheap RAM and stock Infinity fabric clock to ultra expensive ones and with huge OC in FCLK.
It makes no sense to be expecting a 20% gaming uplift when single core Geekbench score (the result that usually quite well represents speed in games) shows no uplift, even regression.
Here's a comparison with a bog standard non-OC'ed 5800X.