No way would Intel be allowed to buy Arm

AnarchoPrimitivNo way would Intel be allowed to buy Arm

Not as a single entity, no. A consortium is a smarter way to go and less costly while reaping the same benefits.

Not gonna happen

I actually imagine all the DRAM/NAND maker's would have a reasonable interest in a stake in ARM if for no other reason than encryption and compression which are becoming more important for security, performance, and of course efficiency. There are obviously other cases for ARM as well so yeah I think SK Hynix is correct the technology is so far reaching it really shouldn't be controlled by one company outright. It would be better if it wasn't for society.

InVasManiI actually imagine all the DRAM/NAND maker's would have a reasonable interest in a stake in ARM if for no other reason than encryption and compression which are becoming more important for security, performance, and of course efficiency. There are obviously other cases for ARM as well so yeah I think SK Hynix is correct the technology is so far reaching it really shouldn't be controlled by one company outright. It would be better if it wasn't for society.

Considering pretty much every single SSD controller is based on Arm Cortex-R5 cores that are designed specifically for RTOSes, a lot of them are already using Arm based hardware.

TiggerNot gonna happen

Pray tell, what other nuggets can you great Sage share with us?

TheLostSwedePray tell, what other nuggets can you great Sage share with us?

I do agree with him. Governments will block this, ARM is a strategic asset and for the UK, those have become a lot more important since Brexit. They'll not want control going to either Asia or the US. Britain has experienced first hand what happened the past decades: every (trade) partner(ship) has basically pissed all over them or they made it so. Hong Kong is EOL; Brexit is complete; the only notable ties are in global security/intelligence and we hear surprisingly little of all those new trade agreements Britain was going to make with shitty states across the globe. States like Russia... a 'great partner' except the Skripal issue and others already kinda killed that illusion years back.

Vayra86I do agree with him. Governments will block this, ARM is a strategic asset and for the UK, those have become a lot more important since Brexit. They'll not want control going to either Asia or the US. Britain has experienced first hand what happened the past decades: every (trade) partner(ship) has basically pissed all over them or they made it so. Hong Kong is EOL; Brexit is complete; the only notable ties are in global security/intelligence and we hear surprisingly little of all those new trade agreements Britain was going to make with shitty states across the globe. States like Russia... a 'great partner' except the Skripal issue and others already kinda killed that illusion years back.

How can governments stop this if Arm is placed on the stock market? There's no preventing that a consortium buys over 50% of the shares, if they're offered on the open market. Arm is already 100% owned by an Asian company...

TheLostSwedeHow can governments stop this is Arm is placed in the stock market? There's no preventing that a consortium buys over 50% of the shares, if they're offered on the open market. Arm is already 100% owned by an Asian company...

And how did that Asian company fare selling it away from a controlled situation?
The fact mistakes were made doesn't mean they will be repeated.

Take note of what's happening around Ukraine. Britain is one of the biggest arms suppliers. We learned recently they've been supplying for months already even long before Russia started moving their invasion force to the border. 'How can governments...' They just do.

And that's what you read about.

TheLostSwedeConsidering pretty much every single SSD controller is based on Arm Cortex-R5 cores that are designed specifically for RTOSes, a lot of them are already using Arm based hardware.


Pray tell, what other nuggets can you great Sage share with us?

Very Droll. Just my opinion like everybody else's

Vayra86And how did that Asian company fare selling it away from a controlled situation?
The fact mistakes were made doesn't mean they will be repeated.

Take note of what's happening around Ukraine. Britain is one of the biggest arms suppliers. We learned recently they've been supplying for months already even long before Russia started moving their invasion force to the border. 'How can governments...' They just do.

And that's what you read about.

Selling to a single company and putting a business on the stock market are two very different things though. No government can stop SoftBank from listing Arm and in turn, there's no limit on who can buy shares on the stock market.

You're supplying Swedish designed weapons though...

TheLostSwedeSelling to a single company and putting a business on the stock market are two very different things though. No government can stop SoftBank from listing Arm and in turn, there's no limit on who can buy shares on the stock market.

You're supplying Swedish designed weapons though...

Let's wait and see won't we.

But if one thing must be clear by now, it is that when shit hits the fan, nobody plays by the rules anymore, and as problems escalate, the definition of shit changes by the minute. I'm looking at way too many examples lately that just show everytime that systems are not quite as transparent as we might think, and I've also been part of too many situations of a similar nature.

See I don't look at ARM and see a Softbank owned company and stock markets, I look at ARM and see that the majority of its subsidiaries are EU-based, and that the company is founded in Britain, has its HQ over there, which means, its history and its ties and certainly a big part of its loyalty.

There is the world you read about and then there's the real one.
Also 'You're'- I'm not from the UK, I'm from the other side of the Canal.

If you can read between the lines (and some lines even say it rather explicitly):
www.ig.com/en/news-and-trade-ideas/arm-ipo--everything-you-need-to-know-220213

Take note of the sentiment they speak of, the problems with Chinese / Asian parts of the firm, the desire for stability of the company and its 'purpose', and the ties to the UK of several board members.

The take away is, Softbank wants to not come out losing, and somehow the UK is going to have its foot in the door. Those are the primary stakeholders here.

Didn't someone try buying ARM before and was blocked by the UK GOV?

TheLostSwedeHow can governments stop this is Arm is placed in the stock market? There's no preventing that a consortium buys over 50% of the shares, if they're offered on the open market. Arm is already 100% owned by an Asian company...

Going public is the right move. There is no stopping the consortium, or Nvidia from buying up the required number of shares for a takeover, hostile or otherwise. That could buy a seat on the board, chairman even, but I doubt that will happen. Also, a takeover slash controlling interest has different rules than outright buying, or merging, a company

There are no laws AFAIK from buying a controlling amount of shares, nor does that amount of shares guarantee a seat on the board.

Vayra86Let's wait and see won't we.

Yep. We can all go back and forth on this, but it would be better to sit back with the popcorn and enjoy the show. :D