Wednesday, March 30th 2022

Intel Teases Arc Desktop Graphics Card

After today's mobile Arc GPU reveal, Intel has also teased its first desktop Arc graphics card in a YouTube video that gives us a first sneak peek of its first desktop graphics card since the late 1990's. Although it's not clear which card Intel is showing off in the video, as the card simply says Intel ARC Limited Edition on the back, it's clear that Intel has gone with a simpler design than those early concepts the company was showing off a couple of years ago. Based on the animated render, we'd hazard a guess that this is a higher-end model, as it appears to have eight memory ICs, as well as a somewhat elaborate cooling system with four heatpipes.

Two fans can also be seen in the video, although the mounting appears somewhat unusual compared to most graphics cards. The back of the card is covered, but it's not obvious if this is a functional rear cover or just for looks. The card also has three DisplayPort and one HDMI outputs. However, what can't be seen in the video, is any kind of power connectors on the card, although it's unlikely that Intel has managed to make a graphics card that doesn't require an external power-input, at least not based on what is known about Intel's upcoming Arc GPUs. The video ends with a message of the new cards coming in the summer of 2022. Based on the video, it seems like we should expect Intel branded retail cards, albeit in a limited production run and most likely only in select markets. You can watch the video after the break.
Source: Intel
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80 Comments on Intel Teases Arc Desktop Graphics Card

#51
Assimilator
CutechriI swear, y'all cannot stop being cynical for at least once.

I'm looking forward to this. All Intel needs to do is not have a 500W GPU like the current offerings from the idiotic green & red boys.
Some of us old bastards have actually been around long enough to remember the crushing tower of disappointment and failure that was the i740. Once bitten, twice shy.

Again, if Intel does manage to deliver, I'll have all the praise in the world for them. Like your sig says, I don't have any loyalty to companies only products, and if Intel can deliver a product that at least competes in the midrange and at a decent price then I'll gladly STFU. Until or unless that happens, my past experiences will continue to dictate my view of the future.
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#53
lexluthermiester
TheLostSwedeYes, I mentioned that...
Oops, sorry.. I made that classic mistake of: "See video, click to play".
GoldenXWhere's the Vulkan 1.3 driver, Intel? And the Elden Ring release date driver?
You can't have a competing gaming GPU if you still don't focus on driver development...
These cards aren't released yet. Chill..
AssimilatorSome of us old bastards have actually been around long enough to remember the crushing tower of disappointment and failure that was the i740. Once bitten, twice shy.
It wasn't that bad. It wasn't stellar, but it wasn't bad either.
CrackongVapourware is stillllllllllll vapourware
And silly comments are still silly..
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#54
LabRat 891
Anyone else getting 'Turn of the DX10 era' 'vibes'?
Beasts of computing power, also electrical power, and not really taken advantage of architecturally until at least the 2nd release revision.
G80 and R600 both were big jumps in performance, but also considerably higher TDPs than the previous generation. G92 and RV670 helped tame those TDPs and optimized the architecture.
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#55
eidairaman1
The Exiled Airman
LabRat 891Anyone else getting 'Turn of the DX10 era' 'vibes'?
Beasts of computing power, also electrical power, and not really taken advantage of architecturally until at least the 2nd release revision.
G80 and R600 both were big jumps in performance, but also considerably higher TDPs than the previous generation. G92 and RV670 helped tame those TDPs and optimized the architecture.
3090TI is ridiculous on power use.
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#56
GoldenX
lexluthermiesterThese cards aren't released yet. Chill..
There are several other devices, including low end dedicated GPUs, using those drivers, and Intel failed to deliver for all of them.
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#57
AusWolf
CutechriI swear, y'all cannot stop being cynical for at least once.

I'm looking forward to this. All Intel needs to do is not have a 500W GPU like the current offerings from the idiotic green & red boys.
I couldn't agree more. Even if the final product doesn't turn out to be extremely good, I'm really looking forward to seeing something different at least. Heck, I might as well buy one just out of curiosity. :ohwell:
AssimilatorSome of us old bastards have actually been around long enough to remember the crushing tower of disappointment and failure that was the i740. Once bitten, twice shy.

Again, if Intel does manage to deliver, I'll have all the praise in the world for them. Like your sig says, I don't have any loyalty to companies only products, and if Intel can deliver a product that at least competes in the midrange and at a decent price then I'll gladly STFU. Until or unless that happens, my past experiences will continue to dictate my view of the future.
This sounds to me like one of those "I don't want a girlfriend because my ex was a b***" comments. No offense. :toast:

In IT terms, one could have anticipated AMD's Zen to be crap just because they failed with FX, and look where they are now.

I'm not saying that Arc will be awesome. All I'm saying is that there's no need to be salty before it releases. ;)
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#58
GoldenX
Using only FX as an example ignores the stomping that Athlon 64 was.
Intel has yet to deliver anything in the GPU market that is actually valuable.
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#59
lexluthermiester
GoldenXThere are several other devices, including low end dedicated GPUs, using those drivers, and Intel failed to deliver for all of them.
I guess I just haven't seen any issues with Intel drivers. Expecting Vulkan and Eldon Ring driver updates for IGPs might be asking a bit much.
GoldenXUsing only FX as an example ignores the stomping that Athlon 64 was.
True!
GoldenXIntel has yet to deliver anything in the GPU market that is actually valuable.
To gaming, yes. However, Intel IGPs offer a great, easy to make and use solution for everything else. And let's be fair, since IRIS, Intel IGPs have offered reasonable performance in 720p/1080p gaming. Not top tier by any stretch, but passable. If it's all someone has, drop to 720p, turn down some settings and get your game on.
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#60
AusWolf
GoldenXUsing only FX as an example ignores the stomping that Athlon 64 was.
Athlon64 was awesome, I give you that.
GoldenXIntel has yet to deliver anything in the GPU market that is actually valuable.
So? It's still not a good enough reason to be pessimistic without any kind of performance data available. ;)

Edit: If anything, it's just a reason for Intel to try to make something really impressive, even if it costs them a bit of delay.
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#61
MxPhenom 216
ASIC Engineer
It's crazy to me how critical so many are even though with Intel entering the discrete GPU space we will have 3 GPU makers at play. That is literally good for everyone if Intel even has a tiny bit of success with it.
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#62
GoldenX
MxPhenom 216It's crazy to me how critical so many are even though with Intel entering the discrete GPU space we will have 3 GPU makers at play. That is literally good for everyone if Intel even has a tiny bit of success with it.
AMD already does the minimum required effort, I don't want an even lazier attempt at it. Only ends with the consumer suffering of bad support and broken promises.
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#63
MxPhenom 216
ASIC Engineer
GoldenXAMD already does the minimum required effort, I don't want an even lazier attempt at it. Only ends with the consumer suffering of bad support and broken promises.
Minimum required effort? what does that even mean?
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#64
lexluthermiester
GoldenXOnly ends with the consumer suffering of bad support and broken promises.
To be fair, Intel has not promised Vulkan support, afaik..
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#65
AusWolf
GoldenXAMD already does the minimum required effort, I don't want an even lazier attempt at it. Only ends with the consumer suffering of bad support and broken promises.
Who said it's gonna be a lazy attempt?
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#66
Assimilator
AusWolfThis sounds to me like one of those "I don't want a girlfriend because my ex was a b***" comments. No offense. :toast:

In IT terms, one could have anticipated AMD's Zen to be crap just because they failed with FX, and look where they are now.
I really hate to quote myself, but I'll do it because apparently you lack basic literacy skills (offense fully intended because only assholes say offensive things and then try to weasel out of the fact that they did so with "no offense", also known as "it's just a prank bro"):
AssimilatorAgain, if Intel does manage to deliver, I'll have all the praise in the world for them.
AusWolfSo? It's still not a good enough reason to be pessimistic without any kind of performance data available. ;)
I've already discussed the shitshow that was i740, I haven't even touched on Larrabee, and you're telling me there's no reason to be pessimistic based on the fact that every previous attempt by Intel to make it in the discrete graphics space has been a colossal failure.

This is why history should be mandatory in schools.
MxPhenom 216It's crazy to me how critical so many are even though with Intel entering the discrete GPU space we will have 3 GPU makers at play. That is literally good for everyone if Intel even has a tiny bit of success with it.
No, it's only good if the new player is actually competitive. Otherwise that new player might as well not be there.
MxPhenom 216Minimum required effort? what does that even mean?
The turd that is the 6500 XT, an iGPU that was made into a dGPU.
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#67
lexluthermiester
TiggerSo i guess every single time Intel try and make a DGPU from now on it will be a colossal failure, given their previous attempts then. Shame we don't give them a chance at least eh. Are you so pessimistic about everything.
There is that "Ignore" button. Use it...
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#68
Unregistered
lexluthermiesterThere is that "Ignore" button. Use it.
I don't ignore anyone any more.

I think there are more offensive remarks in this thread that more deserved your reply to me, but whatever, deleted my comment for you.
#69
lexluthermiester
TiggerI don't ignore anyone any more.
Wish I could say the same.
TiggerI think there are more offensive remarks in this thread that more deserved your reply to me
Perhaps. The anti(insert your company name here) fanboyishness displayed in the comments of every product announcement, like the ones in this thread about Intel's ARC GPUs, is getting REALLY old... Many of us share your frustration.
Tiggerbut whatever, deleted my comment for you.
You didn't have to do that, it was only a suggestion..
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#71
TheinsanegamerN
InVasManiWhy must they always orientate the fin structure to dump the heat right into the PC case!!? The exception to that rule are blower design and fanless compute cards, but like almost all top down cooler solutions are setup to exhaust the heat from the fins right into the PC case I mean why must they virtually all do that!!? I've seen a few rare instances when they don't, but the overwhelming majority do it. Enjoy your complimentary ambient GPU waste hate CPU and VRM's. It's a shame cases haven't been setup to mount the GPU right at the top of the case and exhaust that heat right out the top because heat is going to rise anyway.
Geometry. Placing the fans in a vertical postion allows for thicker and easier heat[pipe placement and more overall fin area for dissipating heat.

The issue here is not that we have vertical fins, rather its taht cae makers have utterly abandoned side fans. In the early 2010s cases with side fans were common, and coupled with these open frame coolers you could cool 375 watt 580s with no issues. But now everyone wants LEDs and glass panels isntead.
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#72
Unregistered
TheinsanegamerNGeometry. Placing the fans in a vertical postion allows for thicker and easier heat[pipe placement and more overall fin area for dissipating heat.

The issue here is not that we have vertical fins, rather its taht cae makers have utterly abandoned side fans. In the early 2010s cases with side fans were common, and coupled with these open frame coolers you could cool 375 watt 580s with no issues. But now everyone wants LEDs and glass panels isntead.
My case has glass panels, but i like it as it uses the chimney airflow system. Cool in bottom, hot out the top, not front to back.
#73
AusWolf
AssimilatorI really hate to quote myself, but I'll do it because apparently you lack basic literacy skills (offense fully intended because only assholes say offensive things and then try to weasel out of the fact that they did so with "no offense", also known as "it's just a prank bro"):
I merely stated what your comment sounded like to me. It's not an offense. It's a fact. I don't recall calling you things, either. Yet, you didn't refrain from doing that, so who's being offensive now?
AssimilatorI've already discussed the shitshow that was i740, I haven't even touched on Larrabee, and you're telling me there's no reason to be pessimistic based on the fact that every previous attempt by Intel to make it in the discrete graphics space has been a colossal failure.
The i740 happened ages ago - and I don't recall it being particularly bad, just not living up to what the competition released as a response. The S3 ViRGE I had at that time was a lot worse by comparison.

Larrabee was never released as far as I know, so how can it be a bad product, or a product at all for that matter?

Also, it's not like any CPU/GPU design company hasn't failed with anything in history (AMD FX, GeForce 5-series, Intel Pentium 4).
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#74
lexluthermiester
AusWolfThe i740 happened ages ago - and I don't recall it being particularly bad, just not living up to what the competition released as a response.
Exactly. It was a reasonable GPU for the price. It just wasn't spectacular.
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#75
R-T-B
AceKingSuitedand nothing like DLSS or FSR;
Hasn't the rumormill been grinding nonstop about XeSS or whatever?
GoldenXAMD already does the minimum required effort, I don't want an even lazier attempt at it. Only ends with the consumer suffering of bad support and broken promises.
With all due respect, you've never gamed on an Intel driver IGP for long if you think AMD is bad...

And no, not talking about performance...
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