Tuesday, April 12th 2022
AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D Gets Full Set of Gaming Benchmarks Ahead of Launch
XanxoGaming has finally released its complete set of benchmarks for the AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D and it's been tested against an Intel Core i9-12900KF. This time both platforms are tested using an NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti and four times 8 GB of 3200 MHz CL14 DDR4 memory. The only difference appears to be the OS drive, motherboard and cooling, although both systems rely on a 360 mm AIO cooler. Both systems were running Windows 10 21H2. The site has a full breakdown of the components used for those interested in the exact details.
The two platforms were tested in 11 different games at 720p and 1080p. To spoil the excitement, it's a dead race between the two CPUs in most games at 1080p, with Intel being ahead by about 1-3 FPS in the games where AMD loses out. However, in the games AMD takes the lead, it's by a good 10 FPS or more, with games like the Witcher 3 and Final Fantasy XV seeing an advantage of 40-50 FPS. AMD often has an advantage when it comes to the one percent low numbers, even when Intel is ahead when it comes to the average FPS, but this doesn't apply to all of the games. It's worth keeping in mind that the Intel CPU should gain extra performance when paired with DDR5 memory in some of these games, but we'll have to wait for more reviews to see by how much. The benchmarks displayed are mostly the games TPU normally tests with, but aren't the entirety of games tested by XanxoGaming.
As for the 720p tests, AMD only loses out in Strange Brigade, even though it's a loss of over 20 FPS on average FPS and by over 10 FPS when it comes to the one percent low frames. As for the other games, it's mostly a dead race here too, but with an advantage to AMD instead of Intel by 1-3 FPS. However, the 3D V-Cache seems to kick in here when it comes to the one percent low frames, as AMD edges out Intel by a large margin in more games here by at least 10 FPS, often by around 30 FPS or more. Take these benchmarks for what they are, an early, unconfirmed test of the Ryzen 7 5800X3D. We're just over a week away from the launch and we should be seeing a lot more benchmarks by then. Head over to XanxoGaming for the full set of tests and their conclusion, especially as they made an effort to write the test in English this time around.
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XanxoGaming
The two platforms were tested in 11 different games at 720p and 1080p. To spoil the excitement, it's a dead race between the two CPUs in most games at 1080p, with Intel being ahead by about 1-3 FPS in the games where AMD loses out. However, in the games AMD takes the lead, it's by a good 10 FPS or more, with games like the Witcher 3 and Final Fantasy XV seeing an advantage of 40-50 FPS. AMD often has an advantage when it comes to the one percent low numbers, even when Intel is ahead when it comes to the average FPS, but this doesn't apply to all of the games. It's worth keeping in mind that the Intel CPU should gain extra performance when paired with DDR5 memory in some of these games, but we'll have to wait for more reviews to see by how much. The benchmarks displayed are mostly the games TPU normally tests with, but aren't the entirety of games tested by XanxoGaming.
139 Comments on AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D Gets Full Set of Gaming Benchmarks Ahead of Launch
I feel this just like piled more of a thermal issue that was already present on their current Zen3 cpu's
The heat density needs to be more spread out, however there must % that AMD is aiming for with yields a 10% larger die could equal at lot less chiplets for them in the end
5800X3D vs. 12900K 1% lows
Assassin's Creed: Origins -3%
Borderlands 3 -1%
Control +11%
Death Stranding +9%
F1 2020 +1%
Final Fantasy XV +26%
Metro Exodus +15%
Shadow of the Tomb Raider +28%
Middle-Earth: Shadow of War +7%
Strange Brigade -1%
The Witcher 3 +1%
I'd call it a tie in five games and a win for the 5800X3D in the other six. The difference is going to be less pronounced in higher resolutions, or with a weaker GPU, but still. Based on these results alone, AMD have delivered on their promise.
Given it another GPU architecture or two and it will be difficult to debate the merits of it in regard to image quality trade offs in regard to larger performance gains to be had. It'll be a bigger deal when 1080p can do upscale to 4K at higher quality closer in parity to native 4K while offering huge performance upside. I wouldn't say it's perfect yet, but it is improving.
So, to the problem with DDR5; Common stuff is DDR5-4800 CL40, which actually has the same latency as DDR4-3200 CL30. Given that DDR4-3200 CL16 is the cheap stuff and DDR4-3200 CL14 is quite common, that makes DDR5 laughably slow in terms of latency.
DDR5 is literally double the (access) latency for more bandwidth, and games want low latency not more bandwidth. The 5800X3D does so well for 1% lows because the massive cache reduces access latency to data when it matters most.
AMD stated the CPU can work with the x470 but it will have to be with the board makers to support it not AMD. So no, you are not correct on this one and you are twisting the truth. The other problem here was the low mem on the mobos to support all the processors. Focus on that problem. SO MANY PROCESSORS FOR THE SOCKET SO THE MEMORY GOT SHORT TO GET THEM ALL SUPPORTED. Do you get this? That is why MSI for instance released new boards MAX with increased mem to get all CPUs supported with the AGESA. Otherwise it would not FIT SINCE IT WAS TOO DAMN BIG.
x370 that is your problem now? Dude look at Intel support. 370 supports 1000, 2000, 3000 series is that not enough? How many usually Intel support if you can remind me?
I know Intel overclocks better but seriously this ks version is already binned and overclocked from the factory to its limit. It is only for Intel to still try and claim tbe so called "Gaming Crown"! Their is no more headroom left in it! Which makes its overclocking capabilities pretty much non existant or minimal at best !
So as far as overclocking goes its not really relevant!
All the high end cpus from Intel and AMD are cranked pretty hard straight out of the box with minimal headroom . Only from the lower specced ones can any reasonable gains be made !
So far from these preliminary tests, it appears that the Ryzen 5800x 3dvcache will be very competitive with 12900ks in gaming !
You are not rolling anything you just want to make it look bad. I totally disagree with you.
anyway why they make promises when they can't keep them?
The only thing i have seen change from Intel is they allow memory overclocking on more chipsets not just the high end z series!
But they are still masters at bleeding everyone for every little extra feature!
- Motherboard manufacturers saved a buck by using small 16MB BIOS chips that are too small to add new CPU support without stripping features or older CPU support. This caused massive complications for AMD when writing new standard AGESA packages.
- Early 300-series boards had, quite frankly, shitty VRM design and poor memory topology. They work, but they're not high-performance parts by today's standards. A combination of more experience with Ryzen and more effort (because AMD's market share increased enough to warrant the extra effort) means that budget X570 and B550 boards are often more capable than flagship 300-series boards. As for budget 300-series boards, some of those are woeful and weren't even up to the task of a 2700X, let alone any of the Zen2 or Zen3 chips.
This argument between @ratirt and @fevgatos is a valid argument and they're both taking polar-opposite stances in what is actually a very grey area. AMD made a broad-sweeping promise, and the motherboard manufacturers then made that promise hard to keep after the promise was made.So, AMD did initially break that promise because they looked at existing 300-series boards and deemed the complications the motherboard manufacturers had created too messy to work around. They chose that initial stance and people rightly called them out for breaking their original promise. You can finger-point all you want but ultimately boards that don't have Zen3 support to this day are the result of the motherboard manufacturer not caring enough about it, or having insufficient staff dedicated to BIOS updates. AMD have now at least upheld their side of the promise (release the AGESA code that will let motherboard manufacturers create Zen3-compatible BIOSes for old boards) so now the anger should be directed at the motherboard manufacturer in question for dragging their feet and offering shitty/slow updates.
As time moved on, they realised these products were actually gong to be pretty good so they started putting in a lot more effort and quality components . So 300 series got average compenets and support, where as 400 started to get much better quality components and support and so on !
What does it take for this weirdo myth to die?
But after several years the same games will become CPU-bound, when your new graphics card is twice as powerful or faster.
There comes a time for every game, where it will have pretty much the same framerate in 720p and in 4K, if we only increase GPU performance, but the CPU stays the same.
Benchmarking at 720p basically shows the maximum possible framerate you can get on a specific CPU, no matter what GPU you use.
If your CPU is limiting you to 200 FPS in 720p with a 3090 Ti, it will also limit your 4090 in exactly the same way.