Thursday, June 23rd 2022
Intel's Arc A380 Performs Even Worse With an AMD CPU
According to fresh benchmark numbers from someone on bilibili, Intel's Arc A380 cards perform even worse when paired with an AMD CPU compared to when paired with an Intel CPU. The card was tested using an AMD Ryzen 5 5600 on an ASUS TUF B550M motherboard paired with 16 GB of DDR4 3600 MHz memory. The Intel system it was tested against consisted of a Core i5-12400 on an ASUS TUF B660M motherboard with the same type of memory. Both test systems had resizable BAR support set to auto and above 4G decoding enabled. Windows 11 21H2 was also installed on both systems.
In every single game out of the 10 games tested, except League of Legends, the AMD system was behind the Intel system by anything from a mere one percent to as much as 15 percent. The worst performance disadvantage was in Forza Horizon 5 and Total War Three Kingdoms, both were 14 to 15 percent behind. The games that were tested, in order of the graph below are: League of Legends, Dota 2, Rainbow 6 Extraction, Watch Dogs Legions, Far Cry 6, Assassin's Creed Valhalla, Total War Three Kingdoms, Shadow of the Tomb Raider, CS:GO and Forza Horizon 5. For comparison, an NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 was also used, but only tested on the Intel based system and the Arc A380 only beat it on Total War Three Kingdoms, albeit by a seven percent margin. It appears Intel has a lot of work to do when it comes to its drivers, but at last right now, mixing Intel Arc graphics cards and AMD processors seems to be a bad idea.
Sources:
billibilli, via @greymon55
In every single game out of the 10 games tested, except League of Legends, the AMD system was behind the Intel system by anything from a mere one percent to as much as 15 percent. The worst performance disadvantage was in Forza Horizon 5 and Total War Three Kingdoms, both were 14 to 15 percent behind. The games that were tested, in order of the graph below are: League of Legends, Dota 2, Rainbow 6 Extraction, Watch Dogs Legions, Far Cry 6, Assassin's Creed Valhalla, Total War Three Kingdoms, Shadow of the Tomb Raider, CS:GO and Forza Horizon 5. For comparison, an NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 was also used, but only tested on the Intel based system and the Arc A380 only beat it on Total War Three Kingdoms, albeit by a seven percent margin. It appears Intel has a lot of work to do when it comes to its drivers, but at last right now, mixing Intel Arc graphics cards and AMD processors seems to be a bad idea.
77 Comments on Intel's Arc A380 Performs Even Worse With an AMD CPU
It will take less time to test it in your classic testbed and maybe have a separate article about the difference with an "equivalent" Intel system indicating the performance differences someone can expect. (and still this would be double work)
Regarding review samples for International markets isn't going Intel to have something set-up at a later date? the way they marketed ARC doesn't seem to indicate OEM or China only but strategies can change of course.
Maybe when there is availability in USA, Europe to be better to just buy directly from a store in order to not sign a nda or whatever (what's the usual procedure, is there a possibility Intel in order to send a sample to a publication to have Intel testbed as a prerequisite?)
But in 4-5 months from now, when Navi33 launches, even if 3060Ti at that time despite ARC's newer drivers still is 20% faster than ARC 780 (this means for ARC 780 +2% more performance in QHD vs RX6600XT, so close to reference RX6650XT) I can easily find price points that can be competitive with next gen because for AMD next gen at less than $399 means RDNA2 according to leaks and I suspect that in 4 months or whenever Navi33 launches AMD wouldn't want to sell the recently launched RX6650XT less than $299.
In this future "next gen" scenario I would find the below prices quite competitive:
ARC-4096 16GB $349
ARC-4096 8GB $299
ARC-3072 12GB $249
ARC-2048 8GB $199
ARC-1024 6GB $129
ARC-768 4GB $99
ARC-512 4GB $79
Now of course can price them higher, although I wouldn't rule out a surprise:
«The actual Chinese MSRP of the GPU is 880 Yuan but after VAT (17%) it comes out to almost 1030 Yuan»
880 Yuan can indicate $129 SRP on extremely positive scenario.
In the wccftech link above also official Intel comparison with GTX1650/ RX6400 (ARC380 frequency 2GHz to cover all the partner card options?)
Intel really doesn´t deserve all the negative publicity and accusations. I know they come off as being a little competitive, but in reality they are basically hippies devoted to equality and the environment. Besides, the government would never allow inflated prices or any form of unfair business practices. Huge corporations would never be allowed to rake in billions at the cost of hard working peoples life, health or social security.
The gap will be wider on jrpg's etc. where they often single or dual threaded only.
I have to somewhat agree with the other part though - Raja was never a gpu guru of any notable description and is no more of a one now and putting him in charge certainly wasn't one of Intel's best decisions lately...Precisely - Alder Lake is the better gaming cpu in general, but even more so in lightly threaded games, where its considerable IPC advantage really shines through.
You really need to dig to find a truly CPU-limited game at 1080p like Forsa (and even then, you're barely hitting noticeable threshold!)
Then the drivers, when AMD bought ATI they got the best guys out there (along nVidia's) what does Intel have?
Finally, nVidia is already bribing the market (interestingly even some reviewers, Tom's hardware, now DF, but maybe these are just delusional fanboys), AMD probably is doing it as well but certainly not to to the same level, they also offer a lot of interesting technology for free (my understanding is DLSS is also free but not open source).
Damn and blast forgot about the abomination that is usersbenchmark.
Not a good showing from the blue giant, all that money and all those employees, 2 years of delays, and you STILL cant get the drivers ironed out.