Quite keen to see the A770 in action, it was a very interesting DF interview with them about it. Despite the ~3.5 billion dollar hole they've dug it's nice to hear that they are committed to staying in the GPU market. Might take a few gens but a third player is more than welcome.

things are getting pretty existed for team blue on papers :) I hope they bounce back with a banger of GPU or else its GGWP :D
But still, the question remains - When it ll be out :) ?

Jimmy_When it ll be out :) ?

soon................

AMD sells CPUs and GPUs.
Intel sells CPUs and now it's about to sell GPUs.

Nvidia only sells GPUs and not the cheap kind.

Can we guess who will have the biggest problem when Intel starts selling those in huge quantities?

Most OEM desktops and laptops with AMD CPUs will have AMD GPUs.
In the future a significant number of Intel based OEM desktops and laptops that where using Nvidia GPUs, will switch to Intel GPUs.

Nvidia should start getting used in having excess inventory if it doesn't become more consumer friendly in pricing. Even today they keep their prices over MSRP with the exception of the overpriced hi end models. And they wouldn't be lowering prices there either, if they haven't the need to make room for the (probably ridiculously overpriced) new RTX 4080 and RTX 4090.

How many PR, they have been showing the A770 to some people already and now decided this?!.

Just release the damn things already. Enough with the incessant pr crap.

Considering how the RTX 3000 prices are going down and will probably continue to do, if they were thinking if pricing it low like 450$ or something to match the 3070, they'll have to go even lower now.

john_AMD sells CPUs and GPUs.
Intel sells CPUs and now it's about to sell GPUs.

Nvidia only sells GPUs and not the cheap kind.

Can we guess who will have the biggest problem when Intel starts selling those in huge quantities?

Most OEM desktops and laptops with AMD CPUs will have AMD GPUs.
In the future a significant number of Intel based OEM desktops and laptops that where using Nvidia GPUs, will switch to Intel GPUs.

Nvidia should start getting used in having excess inventory if it doesn't become more consumer friendly in pricing. Even today they keep their prices over MSRP with the exception of the overpriced hi end models. And they wouldn't be lowering prices there either, if they haven't the need to make room for the (probably ridiculously overpriced) new RTX 4080 and RTX 4090.

The only thing I don't understand is why I haven't thought about this earlier. It's so logical!

As for a possible answer: Nvidia on the consumer market is currently sitting on the RTX hype train, and the money they made from mining. We'll see how long it lasts. They've still got the datacentre, automotive and high performance computing markets, though. We've seen how unimportant gamers really are to them.

wolfQuite keen to see the A770 in action, it was a very interesting DF interview with them about it. Despite the ~3.5 billion dollar hole they've dug it's nice to hear that they are committed to staying in the GPU market. Might take a few gens but a third player is more than welcome.

Agreed. I'm torn between saving up for a Zen 4 + RDNA 3 build, or just buying an A770 for my current build. I'll probably go with the A770 because it's cheaper than a whole system, and while I know AMD will fly with the next generation, just like they did with the last one, Intel's first GPU in decades is something totally new and unknown. It'll satisfy not just my PC enthusiast, but also my explorer side. :D

Different topic: What's with the "Limited Edition" naming on the slides? Is it just marketing crap, or are these cards really going to be limited in number?

AusWolfAgreed. I'm torn between saving up for a Zen 4 + RDNA 3 build, or just buying an A770 for my current build. I'll probably go with the A770 because it's cheaper than a whole system, and while I know AMD will fly with the next generation, just like they did with the last one, Intel's first GPU in decades is something totally new and unknown. It'll satisfy not just my PC enthusiast, but also my explorer side. :D

Oh I'm right there with you, it's all fascinating to me and I want an ARC GPU for the same reasons. I probably spend more time tweaking the GFX card, optimizing settings, assessing performance hits vs visual impact etc, messing around with all sorts of things than I do actually gaming. It's almost more fun to me :D

wolfOh I'm right there with you, it's all fascinating to me and I want an ARC GPU for the same reasons. I probably spend more time tweaking the GFX card, optimizing settings, assessing performance hits vs visual impact etc, messing around with all sorts of things that I do actually gaming. It's almost more fun to me :D

I always sit down at my PC with the intention to play games, but end up watching Youtube and reading TPU instead. :roll:

I'm not a hardcore gamer anyway - I'm even happy with my current 6500 XT (it performs well at 1080p, and it's dead silent), and keep my 2070 in the box, just in case I really need an Nvidia card for something at some point in the future. :D

I'm also thinking that a first generation Arc GPU will probably have some collector value as well. :rolleyes:

will there be an A770 unlimited edition? I fail to see the reason behind the usage of the word "limited", obviously its all going to be limited.
Are the warning the consumers that they will only make a few A770s?

ZoneDymowill there be an A770 unlimited edition? I fail to see the reason behind the usage of the word "limited", obviously its all going to be limited.
Are the warning the consumers that they will only make a few A770s?

They're limited to the people who buy them. :roll:

AusWolfI always sit down at my PC with the intention to play games, but end up watching Youtube and reading TPU instead. :roll:

LoL same :D

AusWolfI'm not a hardcore gamer anyway - I'm even happy with my current 6500 XT (it performs well at 1080p, and it's dead silent), and keep my 2070 in the box, just in case I really need an Nvidia card for something at some point in the future. :D

I'm also thinking that a first generation Arc GPU will probably have some collector value as well. :rolleyes:

We are much alike, I can't bring myself to part with old GPU's, starting to rack up quite the collection. I'm increasingly intrigued with low power too, 'extreme' undervolting is a lot of fun haha.

wolfWe are much alike

It seems we are. Wolf power! :p

wolfI can't bring myself to part with old GPU's, starting to rack up quite the collection.

Same. Although some of them really do have some collector value, like my completely passive Palit 1050 Ti, or my half-height, half-length single slot PCI-e x8 GT 710 that I only bought to be part of my collection. It literally fits in my palm. :D

wolfI'm increasingly intrigued with low power too, 'extreme' undervolting is a lot of fun haha.

I'm a small form factor + low noise fanatic. The two rarely go together, but they have to with my builds. That's why I swapped out my 2070 with the 6500 XT. It was too loud. :roll:

wolfQuite keen to see the A770 in action, it was a very interesting DF interview with them about it. Despite the ~3.5 billion dollar hole they've dug it's nice to hear that they are committed to staying in the GPU market. Might take a few gens but a third player is more than welcome.

Would be a huge mistake to pull out after a rocky 1st gen start. Has there ever been a zero issue launch like that?

Its really damned if you do, damned if you don't. They're getting raked for the slow roll out. And for good reason, they haven't even finalized the memory spec for the damn cards. But, IMO better to hold the cards back if the drivers aren't there yet. You don't want the first impression to be "shit doesn't work", then your reputation is forever tainted. The problem is when are the drivers ever going to get there?

ColddeckedWould be a huge mistake to pull out after a rocky 1st gen start. Has there ever been a zero issue launch like that?

Its really damned if you do, damned if you don't. They're getting raked for the slow roll out. And for good reason, they haven't even finalized the memory spec for the damn cards. But, IMO better to hold the cards back if the drivers aren't there yet. You don't want the first impression to be "shit doesn't work", then your reputation is forever tainted. The problem is when are the drivers ever going to get there?

That, and also the launch date. A couple more months and RDNA 3 and Ada will be out, and Intel will have to slash the intended MSRPs in half.

AusWolfI'm a small form factor + low noise fanatic.

I hear you, I'm amazed how small yet powerful devices can be these days, I have so many ultra SFF build ideas :P

I'm very impressed by current AMD APU's, and I think a Zen4+RDNA3 APU in a handheld / NUC / mini laptop etc would be 'all you need' to game really, I'll be very tempted. Especially with the ability to have an eGPU for home use.

AusWolf...Different topic: What's with the "Limited Edition" naming on the slides? Is it just marketing crap, or are these cards really going to be limited in number?

That means limited compatibility, no older platforms, DirectX's or whatever else they will think of as they go along. :-)

wolfI'm very impressed by current AMD APU's, and I think a Zen4+RDNA3 APU in a handheld / NUC / mini laptop etc would be 'all you need' to game really, I'll be very tempted. Especially with the ability to have an eGPU for home use.

Be careful with that. New AMD CPUs run very hot in limited airflow environments. Intel CPUs can take much more power before throttling in a small case with a small cooler. I had to learn this the hard way.

pavleThat means limited compatibility, no older platforms, DirectX's or whatever else they will think of as they go along. :)

Ah, so as in "limited in capabilities". I get you. :laugh:

So Intel didn't scrape A580 just verified that will be released in a later date.
24Xe cores and 256bit bus makes sense, otherwise if it was 16Xe and 128bit bus (like every publication was saying) it wouldn't make sense the A580 name but something like A550.
But the clocks are low, in those clocks I would be happy if A750 matches RTX3060 in TPU's QHD testbed (and A770 around +13% faster)
Nvidia still doesn't have such good street pricing in relation with AMD, but if Intel wants to make a splash it has to be competitive with AMD's street pricing (it can't ignore/snob AMD like it does on Interviews)
In order to (barely) compete with something like the below, A750/A580 must have $269/$219 SRP (+$10 for LE editions) unless 2050MHz A750 isn't just at RTX3060 QHD level which will be a surprise with so low clock!