already their entire line up is leaked last month including the new T-series as well :)
not sure how many same kinds of leaks will keep on coming like this!

Accidentally re-leaked.
Just by incident.

Jimmy_already their entire line up is leaked last month including the new T-series as well :)
not sure how many same kinds of leaks will keep on coming like this!

They're lakes, its kinda obvious they're leaky, I guess.

See AMD uses famous painters, they know how to use a canvas without spoiling everything.

If you don't want to be constantly bugged by leaks, just follow the pricewatch, I have set mine to new products that are on sale in 2022, and nothing else shows up. until it really does, when it does once and for all. Same goes for video cards, you don't need the rumours, when the real thing is imminent anyway.

Jimmy_already their entire line up is leaked last month including the new T-series as well :)
not sure how many same kinds of leaks will keep on coming like this!

Yeah, everything that needed to leak, has leaked already. The next bit of interesting info will be actual benchmarks.

bugYeah, everything that needed to leak, has leaked already. The next bit of interesting info will be actual benchmarks.

And prices...

docnorthAnd prices...

I'm pretty sure prices would be in line with ADL. The wild card here is AMD, they tend to price their CPUs competitively, but charge an arm and a leg for mobos.

5.8 GHz 13900K, that make a 6.0 GHz 13900KF plausible.

At least it look better than the initial rumors. Zen 4 will certainly have competition. In game, Zen4 X3D will probably be able to get ahead in many scenario but in many other, Intel will be ahead.

"accidentally leaked"

ppnIf you don't want to be constantly bugged by leaks, just follow the pricewatch, I have set mine to new products that are on sale in 2022, and nothing else shows up. until it really does, when it does once and for all. Same goes for video cards, you don't need the rumours, when the real thing is imminent anyway.

Can you explain what you mean by follow the pricewatch? I'm interested in doing the same but don't have any idea what you're talking about.

“Accidentally Leaked”

;)

Wink wink

A decade of paying for useless integrated GPUs. Now we have to pay for useless E-cores on top of that. What a waste of die space.

Alder Lake pricing was really nice thanks to Zen 3. But now they are adding more useless cores, so they are increasing prices.

THU31A decade of paying for useless integrated GPUs. Now we have to pay for useless E-cores on top of that. What a waste of die space.

Alder Lake pricing was really nice thanks to Zen 3. But now they are adding more useless cores, so they are increasing prices.

Yes, that's why the 12600k runs circles around 5600X. Because of the useless E-cores.

If you looked here: www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-core-i9-12900k-e-cores-only-performance/2.html
you's see the 12900k sitting between 3600X and 5600X in Cinebench multi, running solely on totally useless E-cores.

bugYes, that's why the 12600k runs circles around 5600X. Because of the useless E-cores.

If you looked here: www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-core-i9-12900k-e-cores-only-performance/2.html
you's see the 12900k sitting between 3600X and 5600X in Cinebench multi, running solely on totally useless E-cores.

Yes, that is why the the 12400 has almost identical gaming performance to the 12600K, the difference coming from clocks and cache.

I do not care about productivity. I want 8 P-cores with no E-cores and Intel will not sell me this anymore. The hybrid architecture has zero advantages for gaming (do not talk about background tasks, it makes no difference), but it has disadvantages - scheduling and lower ring bus speed.

Zen 4 with 3D cache will destroy Raptor Lake in gaming. The 12900KS had to consume three times the power of the 5800X3D to beat it.

Don't feed the troll.

Typo - the 13900k has 24 cores, not 20.

THU31I do not care about productivity. I want 8 P-cores with no E-cores and Intel will not sell me this anymore. The hybrid architecture has zero advantages for gaming (do not talk about background tasks, it makes no difference), but it has disadvantages - scheduling and lower ring bus speed.

I can sell you a delidded 10700K right now if you want, 250$ and it's yours.

Jokes aside (sort of), I don't really understand why you care so much about having 8 P cores with no E cores. Just get a 12700 and disable the E cores if you really care that much. I have a 9900K, I disabled HT and my overclocked jumped up from 4.9 GHz to 5.2 GHz, which does help in most of my games.

THU31A decade of paying for useless integrated GPUs. Now we have to pay for useless E-cores on top of that. What a waste of die space.

You do realize Intel has historically depreciated less BECAUSE of that iGPU, right? Not everyone plays video games. As a matter of fact, I like to repurpose my parts once I upgrade. I currently have a Maximus X Hero Wifi, and I have an i5-8500 laying around. Once I upgrade, I'll throw the 8500 on that board (yes locked CPU on Z370) and use it as a NAS, because Z370 supports RAID. And because I have an iGPU, I don't need a graphics card taking up my x16 slot, I can connect a simple HDMI cable, mouse and keyboard, and set it up as a NAS server, and boom done. Couldn't do that with most of AMD's high performance CPUs, you always needed a graphics card. That's one of the contributing reasons as to why AMD tends to depreciate harder. Now that AMD is FINALLY adding a basic iGPU to their upcoming Ryzen CPUs, I want to see how the depreciation rate goes for those. I expect it to fare better than prior AMD CPUs.

Berfs1You do realize Intel has historically depreciated less BECAUSE of that iGPU, right?

No not really, the historical context about "losing" less value is because Intel never really cut the prices on their chips for over a decade till 9900k (10900k?) they instead retired old SKU's & sometime just introduced newer ones with higher clocks & more price!

It's basically the Apple playbook when you look at it or maybe Apple copied Intel.

They Updated their website to remove the Raptor Lake information....... But I saved a snap shot of the website just before they could. So here it's the web archive site web.archive.org/web/20220912163720/https://www.intel.ca/content/www/ca/en/gaming/resources/gaming-cpu.html