Wednesday, September 21st 2022

EVGA Announces Cancelation of NVIDIA Next-gen Graphics Cards Plans, Officially Terminates NVIDIA Partnership

Towards the latter half of August, multiple EVGA employees involved in technical marketing and engineering had let us know privately that they were leaving the company for other ventures. When pushed further, several hinted towards some decisions being made by EVGA's management, including CEO Andrew Han, that would jeopardize their future. Some even went far enough to say they would share more in a few weeks time about how they felt exactly about their time there, the various issues that kept them from doing their best, and also that at least a couple of ex-employees were let go. TechPowerUp was doing due diligence in collecting the facts while keeping emotions aside from contacts who were understandably not in the best of moods, and one thing common across the board was there was something major coming up dealing with the EVGA GPU product line.

Today EVGA decided to throw a massive curve ball by formally announcing the company is canceling its plans to carry the next generation of graphics cards. Given EVGA's revenue sheets point to nearly 80% contribution from being an NVIDIA add-in card partner, this effectively also means an end to a long partnership with NVIDIA. The company's CEO confirmed as much to a few media channels citing poor margins and a challenging, stressful relationship that was no longer fruitful. There are no plans for EVGA to partner with AMD or Intel at this time when it comes to graphics cards and the company stressed they will continue to sell and support current-gen GPUs having retained enough units for RMA purposes too.
Jon Peddie Research also speculates EVGA is going to shift its priorities towards power supplies and motherboards instead that allow for higher margins and a more uniform, predictable sales pattern. Time will tell how EVGA, and indeed NVIDIA too who now has to re-distribute its GPU allocation among other partners and retail solutions, will come out of this split. It certainly does not seem to be an amicable one and we do not expect the partnership to resume anytime soon. This also affects companies who were no doubt planning on accessories for EVGA-branded GPUs, such as custom watercooling blocks from the usual suspects such as EKWB, Alphacool, and Bitspower.
What About Existing Customers
All existing owners of EVGA graphics cards will remain fully covered by warranties, including full replacements if needed. The company has withheld inventory of EVGA graphics cards from retailers (and will probably recall some perfectly-functional cards), so it has buffer stock to serve existing customers in need of total replacements or RMA.

What EVGA's Future Looks Like
EVGA CEO Andrew Han stated that the company has no plans as of now to partner with another GPU manufacturer like AMD or Intel, and the exit from the graphics card business will trigger an "imminent downsizing" of the company (to shed employees associated with the graphics card business). This could also be a subtle hint to AMD and Intel that if they're looking to work with EVGA, they should express interest right now.

Graphics cards made up over three-quarters of EVGA's revenue, and so we're not sure what the company could do next. If one were to speculate, the company could increase its presence in the prebuilt notebook and gaming peripherals businesses, and probably even ride the growth-cycle in the power-supply market with ATX 3.0 and PCIe Gen 5. Next-generation high-end graphics cards are expected to trigger upgrades among those with PSUs 4 years or older, as older PSUs, particularly mainstream ones, will find it hard to deal with the power excursions (spikes) of high-end PCIe Gen 5 graphics cards. The company could also retain its PCB engineering team to further develop its motherboard business. But all these are just speculation. Unless EVGA significantly invests in its other businesses, it's done.

How does this affect NVIDIA in the North American market?
EVGA was particularly popular in the North American market, among DIY PC enthusiasts. Other NVIDIA partners such as ASUS, could attempt to fill its void, but the distinct industrial design of EVGA will be lost, as would features such as iCX; and EVGA-exclusive customer programs such as trade-in upgrades. NVIDIA may also attempt to bring in new partners to the North American market to fill EVGA's void, such as GALAX (Galaxy), or Colorful, which are both major graphics card OEMs in the Chinese market. It will now fall on them to match the design and quality standards EVGA established. EVGA's exit will have minimal impact on NVIDIA's bottom-line, as those in the market for a GeForce graphics card will ultimately buy one from whichever brand.

NVIDIA's first reaction to this development is as follows:
"We've had a great partnership with EVGA over the years and will continue to support them on our current generation of products. We wish Andrew and our friends at EVGA all the best."
EVGA's full statement is as follows:
EVGA CEO Andrew HanEVGA has terminated its relationship with NVIDIA. EVGA will no longer be manufacturing video cards of any type, citing a souring relationship with NVIDIA as the cause (among other reasons that were minimized). EVGA will not be exploring relationships with AMD or Intel at this time, and the company will be downsizing imminently as it exits the video card market. Customers will still be covered by EVGA policies, but EVGA will no longer make RTX or other video cards. The company already made, 20 EVT samples of EVGA RTX 4090 FTW3 cards, but will not be moving to production and has killed all active projects pertaining to cards, including KINGPIN cards.
According to JPR, EVGA was the best-selling NVIDIA AIB in the US market, with a market-share of nearly 40%. NVIDIA would have lead its board partners to take its place.

Update Sep 21st: KINGPIN, a long time associate of EVGA, behind some of their fastest boutique graphics cards and motherboards, posted a note of gratitude for all the fans of EVGA + KINGPIN, and stated that KINGPIN Hardware may continue in some form.
I'm thankful for all the industry friends, old colleagues, etc. that reached out. It means a lot and I appreciate it. The news isn't received well ofc, and I'm mostly sorry for the fans and people that are passionate for our brand and everything that we have done here over the years at EVGA. If the KP hardware is meant to continue on in one way or another, I'm sure that it will :). The EVGA and PC hardware enthusiast community have been great to me and my teams here over the years, THANK YOU.
Update Sep 21st: Jensen Huang responded to a question about his thoughts on EVGA in a Q&A session today:
Jensen HuangYou know, Andrew (EVGA CEO) wanted to wind down the business, and he's wanted to do that for a couple of years. Andrew and EVGA were, are great partners and we're great partners, and I'm sad to see them leave the market. But, he's got other plans and he's been thinking about it for several years, so I guess that's about it. The market has a lot of great players and it will be served well after EVGA, but I'll always miss them, they were an important part of our history, Andrew is a great friend. I think that it was just time for him to go do something else."
Sources: Jon Peddie Research, Gamers Nexus, EVGA, Tae Kim (Twitter)
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536 Comments on EVGA Announces Cancelation of NVIDIA Next-gen Graphics Cards Plans, Officially Terminates NVIDIA Partnership

#76
qubit
Overclocked quantum bit
Seismic.
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#77
cvaldes
Undoubtedly EVGA considered partnering with AMD and/or Intel at some point, probably held meetings, maybe even got some engineering sample chips to play with. But in the end, they decided to exit the GPU business completely, a move that is decidedly pessimistic about the discrete graphics card industry as a whole.

Perhaps they forecasted a future of ever-dwindling gross margins based on what their recent returns have been in the past five or so years.

For sure EVGA's senior management team has thought about this long and hard; Andrew Han and Jensen Huang must have conversed numerous times over recent years about how things were going.
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#78
Ravenas
EVGA should be allowed anonymity, similar to ASUS or Gigabyte, in regard to chipsets.
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#79
PapaTaipei
Wow, was not expecting that one. They were the only ones with 10 years warranty on GPU...
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#80
RandallFlagg
cvaldesUndoubtedly EVGA also considered partnering with AMD and/or Intel at some point, probably held meetings, maybe even got some engineering sample chips to play with. But in the end, they decided to exit the GPU business completely, a move that is decidedly pessimistic about the discrete graphics card industry as a whole.

Perhaps they forecasted a future of ever-dwindling gross margins based on what their recent returns have been in the past five or so years.

For sure EVGA's senior management team has thought about this long and hard; Andrew Han and Jensen Huang must have conversed numerous times over recent years about how things were going.
A good observation. dGPUs as a mass market item may be on their way out.

Not yet ofc, but in 6-12 months we'll have a 'tiled' tGPU in Meteor Lake and AMD is already adding iGPU to its desktop chips with Zen 4. DDR5 will also help alleviate memory bandwidth issues that plague current iGPUs, especially as DDR5 gets faster over the next year or two.

The long predicted end for the discrete GPU market may be near.
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#81
Hxx
N/ADid Nvidia force them to sell to miners.
Does a vendor know /care who they’re selling to? Money is money no matter from who and all vendors can do is place some hurdles but miners could easily overcome those
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#82
Berfs1
Fluffmeisterif Nvidia are the bad guys, why no partnership with AMD? Surely that would be seen as a big win for AMD and their products to lure EVGA away from the big bad wolf.
Possibly because they don't want to go back and forth between the two once AMD does a fuck up (if it happens).
RandallFlaggA good observation. dGPUs as a mass market item may be on their way out.

Not yet ofc, but in 6-12 months we'll have a 'tiled' tGPU in Meteor Lake and AMD is already adding iGPU to its desktop chips with Zen 4. DDR5 will also help alleviate memory bandwidth issues that plague current iGPUs, especially as DDR5 gets faster over the next year or two.

The long predicted end for the discrete GPU market may be near.
I doubt it will ever end. There are always some scenarios that require discrete GPUs, and with software always advancing, we won't reach a time where iGPU is powerful enough to run the latest software. iGPUs are meant to be rather basic in performance but have all the capabilities such as encoders, decoders, etc.
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#83
mama
neatfeatguySounds like EVGA looked at the current situation of Nvidia undercutting AiBs with their FE cards, especially during the GPU "shortages".

Also, if the margins are slim and EVGA had made some samples of the 4090, but found the cost to be too much compared to making an actual profit without harming the company and then taking into consideration how Nvidia has been handling the 3000 series, it may have very well looked like a complete loss to EVGA to try and go through another generation with them. If Nvidia is sitting on stock (of the 3000 series) and trying to keep prices up enough on the 3000 series so they can price up the 4000 series (as rumors suggest) coupled with companies having 4000 series sitting in stock, but unable to sell them, that's just money tied up in multiple locations that eats into the coffers.

Lots of "what if" scenarios here and without being on the inside and actually knowing it all, we can only speculate.....

Maybe EVGA made a wise choice to cut ties and walk away? I guess only time will tell.
I agree. There is likely a combination of old and new reasons why the decision was made. I think it possible the extreme cooling the new 40 series needs (only speculation of course as it hasn't released) may have played a role.
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#84
outpt
this sucks big time. in 20 years i have had only 1 card that was not from EVGA and that was a 5600xt from XFX. well i guess when my 3080 from EVGA kicks the can i will look else where. i have never had a EVGA give it up.
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#85
Hxx
Gmr_ChickThis smells truly fishy. If you as a company make up 40% of North American GPU sales, and a whopping 80% of your overall revenue comes from GPU sales...you don't just walk away from that to focus on the sales of motherboards, PSUs and peripherals. :kookoo::wtf:
Gross profit and net income are two very different measures of your financial power . Evga said fuck it why work 100 times harder and compete with even the suppliers own cards (FEs) when they can refocus on higher margins and less sales volume but the volume will grow as they repurpose their resources . The only folks suffering here would be the additional specialized employees who may no longer be needed and eventually coached out of the company

Also not sure how obvious this is but companies restructure all the time by discontinuing operations or acquisitions. It’s just polarizing in this case because gpus are a huge chunk of their business that’s all
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#86
Space Lynx
Astronaut
RandallFlaggThe long predicted end for the discrete GPU market may be near.
Markets were way smaller in the 1990's and early 2000's and we still had a new gpu every couple years. Sure, they may not make as many in the future, but the PC Gamer market will still run on supply and demand.
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#87
samum
cvaldesUndoubtedly EVGA considered partnering with AMD and/or Intel at some point, probably held meetings, maybe even got some engineering sample chips to play with. But in the end, they decided to exit the GPU business completely, a move that is decidedly pessimistic about the discrete graphics card industry as a whole.

Perhaps they forecasted a future of ever-dwindling gross margins based on what their recent returns have been in the past five or so years.

For sure EVGA's senior management team has thought about this long and hard; Andrew Han and Jensen Huang must have conversed numerous times over recent years about how things were going.
I wouldn't be surprised if the Nvidia exclusivity agreement prevented EVGA from even talking to another chipmaker about discreet GPUs.
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#88
nguyen
Sounds like a "I have had enough" reaction from EVGA's top managements when they have been loyal to Nvidia for 20 years, only to be treated as a useless middleman that Nvidia want to cut in the near future.

Anyways the GPU business is shrinking considerably for the forseeable future, it's not a bad decision to cash out now...
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#89
cvaldes
Berfs1I doubt it will ever end. There are always some scenarios that require discrete GPUs, and with software always advancing, we won't reach a time where iGPU is powerful enough to run the latest software. iGPUs are meant to be rather basic in performance but have all the capabilities such as encoders, decoders, etc.
Oh, the discrete graphics card market isn't going to vanish. There will always be specialized usage cases for them including content creation, technical computing, game development, etc. And yeah, sure, the handful of loyal PC gaming enthusiasts.

However in five years, will people's phones be powerful enough to play 4K games and cast them onto TV sets? We are already seeing mainstream video game console hardware (Xbox X and PS5) run at 4K. In the end content is king: gameplay beats the number of polygons on your screen.

There are other developments like cloud gaming and streaming (gaming as a spectator sport) that are already changing the way people see games.

The video game world is constantly evolving and the old paradigm of a powerful GPU in a desktop PC is getting more and more antiquated every day. We already know that mobile gaming generates far more revenue than console and PC gaming.
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#90
Sybaris_Caesar
What a news to wake up to. EVGA in red boxes, bring it on. I know so many people who buy EVGA, not Nvidia because of their stellar warranty.
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#91
PapaTaipei
I don't get why NVIDIA/ AMD doesn't directly sell cards. Just like Intel. AIB is pure parasitic nonsense.
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#92
neatfeatguy
I'm almost tempted to pickup an EVGA card just because it'll be the last time they're around and considering the fact is, I don't have one from this generation anymore. Just an ASUS 3080 and also an ASUS 3060 Ti. But, then you have a card from EVGA that you're putting your trust in them to be able to uphold the 3 year warranty (wonder if they'll still offer extended warranties....?) should something happen to that GPU.

EVGA and Zotac were my main go to companies. I got ASUS cards because that's just what was available when the time came. Guess it'll be Zotac and then ASUS from here on out for me.
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#93
MarsM4N
My program for the next 3 hrs. :cool: Do not disturb. THX


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#94
lexluthermiester
Holy meadow muffins Batman! What the actual hell EVGA? You make the best cards in the industry! What the hell are we going to do now?
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#95
SLObinger
If there are any good players in this industry EVGA is among them. Got an EVGA 3090 Ti three days ago. Today it has more sentimental vs monetary value I think.
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#96
phanbuey
it looks like nvidia is adopting the very same model 3dfx had when they beat them through using board partners...

I think it's quite a stupid move.
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#97
Space Lynx
Astronaut
lexluthermiesterHoly meadow muffins Batman! What the actual hell EVGA? You make the best cards in the industry! What the hell are we going to do now?
PC Gamer article said it was a matter of "being respected" Looks like Nvidia just being a dick to EVGA from what I can gather from that PC Gamer article.

www.pcgamer.com/evga-ends-nvidia-video-card/
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#98
natr0n
I'm guessing they were paying that kingpin guy too much.

Really sucks I have a 1660ti and 3070ti from them. Very good quality products.
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#99
thesmokingman
This is a huge blow to NV, on top of the Ether build. It must have been THAT bad for EVGA to just walk away, insane.
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#100
lexluthermiester
CallandorWoTPC Gamer article said it was a matter of "being respected" Looks like Nvidia just being a dick to EVGA from what I can gather from that PC Gamer article.

www.pcgamer.com/evga-ends-nvidia-video-card/
There's got to be gears grinding somewhere. It would be nice to see EVGA return to being non-exclusive.
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