Wednesday, September 21st 2022

EVGA Announces Cancelation of NVIDIA Next-gen Graphics Cards Plans, Officially Terminates NVIDIA Partnership

Towards the latter half of August, multiple EVGA employees involved in technical marketing and engineering had let us know privately that they were leaving the company for other ventures. When pushed further, several hinted towards some decisions being made by EVGA's management, including CEO Andrew Han, that would jeopardize their future. Some even went far enough to say they would share more in a few weeks time about how they felt exactly about their time there, the various issues that kept them from doing their best, and also that at least a couple of ex-employees were let go. TechPowerUp was doing due diligence in collecting the facts while keeping emotions aside from contacts who were understandably not in the best of moods, and one thing common across the board was there was something major coming up dealing with the EVGA GPU product line.

Today EVGA decided to throw a massive curve ball by formally announcing the company is canceling its plans to carry the next generation of graphics cards. Given EVGA's revenue sheets point to nearly 80% contribution from being an NVIDIA add-in card partner, this effectively also means an end to a long partnership with NVIDIA. The company's CEO confirmed as much to a few media channels citing poor margins and a challenging, stressful relationship that was no longer fruitful. There are no plans for EVGA to partner with AMD or Intel at this time when it comes to graphics cards and the company stressed they will continue to sell and support current-gen GPUs having retained enough units for RMA purposes too.
Jon Peddie Research also speculates EVGA is going to shift its priorities towards power supplies and motherboards instead that allow for higher margins and a more uniform, predictable sales pattern. Time will tell how EVGA, and indeed NVIDIA too who now has to re-distribute its GPU allocation among other partners and retail solutions, will come out of this split. It certainly does not seem to be an amicable one and we do not expect the partnership to resume anytime soon. This also affects companies who were no doubt planning on accessories for EVGA-branded GPUs, such as custom watercooling blocks from the usual suspects such as EKWB, Alphacool, and Bitspower.
What About Existing Customers
All existing owners of EVGA graphics cards will remain fully covered by warranties, including full replacements if needed. The company has withheld inventory of EVGA graphics cards from retailers (and will probably recall some perfectly-functional cards), so it has buffer stock to serve existing customers in need of total replacements or RMA.

What EVGA's Future Looks Like
EVGA CEO Andrew Han stated that the company has no plans as of now to partner with another GPU manufacturer like AMD or Intel, and the exit from the graphics card business will trigger an "imminent downsizing" of the company (to shed employees associated with the graphics card business). This could also be a subtle hint to AMD and Intel that if they're looking to work with EVGA, they should express interest right now.

Graphics cards made up over three-quarters of EVGA's revenue, and so we're not sure what the company could do next. If one were to speculate, the company could increase its presence in the prebuilt notebook and gaming peripherals businesses, and probably even ride the growth-cycle in the power-supply market with ATX 3.0 and PCIe Gen 5. Next-generation high-end graphics cards are expected to trigger upgrades among those with PSUs 4 years or older, as older PSUs, particularly mainstream ones, will find it hard to deal with the power excursions (spikes) of high-end PCIe Gen 5 graphics cards. The company could also retain its PCB engineering team to further develop its motherboard business. But all these are just speculation. Unless EVGA significantly invests in its other businesses, it's done.

How does this affect NVIDIA in the North American market?
EVGA was particularly popular in the North American market, among DIY PC enthusiasts. Other NVIDIA partners such as ASUS, could attempt to fill its void, but the distinct industrial design of EVGA will be lost, as would features such as iCX; and EVGA-exclusive customer programs such as trade-in upgrades. NVIDIA may also attempt to bring in new partners to the North American market to fill EVGA's void, such as GALAX (Galaxy), or Colorful, which are both major graphics card OEMs in the Chinese market. It will now fall on them to match the design and quality standards EVGA established. EVGA's exit will have minimal impact on NVIDIA's bottom-line, as those in the market for a GeForce graphics card will ultimately buy one from whichever brand.

NVIDIA's first reaction to this development is as follows:
"We've had a great partnership with EVGA over the years and will continue to support them on our current generation of products. We wish Andrew and our friends at EVGA all the best."
EVGA's full statement is as follows:
EVGA CEO Andrew HanEVGA has terminated its relationship with NVIDIA. EVGA will no longer be manufacturing video cards of any type, citing a souring relationship with NVIDIA as the cause (among other reasons that were minimized). EVGA will not be exploring relationships with AMD or Intel at this time, and the company will be downsizing imminently as it exits the video card market. Customers will still be covered by EVGA policies, but EVGA will no longer make RTX or other video cards. The company already made, 20 EVT samples of EVGA RTX 4090 FTW3 cards, but will not be moving to production and has killed all active projects pertaining to cards, including KINGPIN cards.
According to JPR, EVGA was the best-selling NVIDIA AIB in the US market, with a market-share of nearly 40%. NVIDIA would have lead its board partners to take its place.

Update Sep 21st: KINGPIN, a long time associate of EVGA, behind some of their fastest boutique graphics cards and motherboards, posted a note of gratitude for all the fans of EVGA + KINGPIN, and stated that KINGPIN Hardware may continue in some form.
I'm thankful for all the industry friends, old colleagues, etc. that reached out. It means a lot and I appreciate it. The news isn't received well ofc, and I'm mostly sorry for the fans and people that are passionate for our brand and everything that we have done here over the years at EVGA. If the KP hardware is meant to continue on in one way or another, I'm sure that it will :). The EVGA and PC hardware enthusiast community have been great to me and my teams here over the years, THANK YOU.
Update Sep 21st: Jensen Huang responded to a question about his thoughts on EVGA in a Q&A session today:
Jensen HuangYou know, Andrew (EVGA CEO) wanted to wind down the business, and he's wanted to do that for a couple of years. Andrew and EVGA were, are great partners and we're great partners, and I'm sad to see them leave the market. But, he's got other plans and he's been thinking about it for several years, so I guess that's about it. The market has a lot of great players and it will be served well after EVGA, but I'll always miss them, they were an important part of our history, Andrew is a great friend. I think that it was just time for him to go do something else."
Sources: Jon Peddie Research, Gamers Nexus, EVGA, Tae Kim (Twitter)
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536 Comments on EVGA Announces Cancelation of NVIDIA Next-gen Graphics Cards Plans, Officially Terminates NVIDIA Partnership

#151
Dristun
Dear angry ladies and gentlemen, consumer protests don't work, your dreams will come true only if nVidia releases a "new coke" style blunder series themselves or AMD pays and markets itself to the top over the years. And I guarantee you it won't behave any better then. If you're serious about changing anything, get ready to abandon your life for politics and activism and start to look beyond just one corporation.
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#152
The Von Matrices
Whenever I bought an EVGA GPU I did so because it was the least expensive one on the market. I guess I wasn't helping.
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#153
Pumper
RandallFlagg-Well-founded rumor was that 4000 series GPUs have been sitting in warehouses since early August, waiting for Nvidia to officially release
And like Steve said in a recent video, AIBs don't even know the official pricing on the 4000 series and will only find out with the rest of us when Jensen makes the announcement on stage during the live event. For all we know, everyone will be selling RTX4000 at a loss.
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#154
neatfeatguy
PumperAnd like Steve said in a recent video, AIBs don't even know the official pricing on the 4000 series and will only found out with the rest of us when Jensen makes the announcement on stage during the live event. For all we know, everyone will be selling RTX4000 at a loss.
Makes me wonder if any other Nvidia AiBs will follow suit if they keep getting the short end of the stick.....

Or maybe, just maybe, EVGA f'ed things up and are really trying to save face by shifting the blame to Nvidia??? I wonder if the world will ever truly know.
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#155
R0H1T
The margins on the cards are thin & likely getting thinner, you can see that from the profits Nvidia makes & the not so profitable AIB partner results. The biggest issue here is that Nvidia isn't that keen on reducing their margins & this where the partners are getting shafted. Now whether they're getting pummeled to the point of shutting shop, like EVGA, or this is just temporary for bigger partners like ASUS is anyone's guess!
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#156
Bwaze
R0H1TThe margins on the cards are thin & likely getting thinner, you can see that from the profits Nvidia makes & the not so profitable AIB partner results. The biggest issue here is that Nvidia isn't that keen on reducing their margins & this where the partners are getting shafted. Now whether they're getting pummeled to the point of shutting shop, like EVGA, or this is just temporary for bigger partners like ASUS is anyone's guess!
But throughout the whole cryptomining craze people were pointing to AIB's for taking the majority of extra money - they were supposedly ones that were shipping cards directly to miners by the truckloads, they were the ones that scalped buyers, increased the official prices of their products while the MRSP and Founder's Edition cards remained cheap (although unavailable for most of the buyers).

Conclusion was therefore that all the extra revenue Nvidia showed during the cryptomania was only a tip of an iceberg, the large portion of that extra profit should be in the pockets of AIB partners?
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#157
R0H1T
BwazeBut throughout the whole cryptomining craze people were pointing to AIB's for taking the majority of extra money
I don't think there's any evidence of that. Back in 2017 it was the retailers or distributors, same before that from what I remember. In 2020 both Nvidia & AMD profited enormously, more than the past rush & while AIB's made a ton there's no evidence that they made the bulk of the profits. You could argue they cut out the middle men by selling directly to the miners but even then most of the profits would be flowing to AMD/Nvidia ~ heck AMD didn't even have an official "MSRP" for a lot of their high end GPU's in the last 2 years.
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#158
bobsled
Losing EVGA as a GPU vendor is a blow to PC enthusiasts. Top quality support, and the last vendor not headquartered in Taiwan or China iirc.
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#159
Luminescent
After they tasted that sweet and easy miners money now they are told they have to go back to tiny profits and lots of work, fu...k that.
They won't switch to AMD or Intel because it's the same deal, they make more from a keyboard or PSU.
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#160
demu
EVGA is committed to graphics cards right down to the name.
Something has to change:
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#161
Dirt Chip
EVGA RTX4090 will be the ultimate collector GPU.
Some were menufacter as engineering samples.
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#162
jesdals
Listening to GamersNexus report I cant help feel concerned for the employees of EVGA. I seems like the founder wants to go down with the ship and not make a needed generation change in leadership. I do understand the feelings towards Nvidia - but it seems more like a burned out CEO. Hope Vince lands on his feet.
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#163
Dirt Chip
also, one less major NV GPU player-> less competition -> higher $$$ for NV GPU`s
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#164
Bwaze
R0H1TI don't think there's any evidence of that. Back in 2017 it was the retailers or distributors, same before that from what I remember. In 2020 both Nvidia & AMD profited enormously, more than the past rush & while AIB's made a ton there's no evidence that they made the bulk of the profits. You could argue they cut out the middle men by selling directly to the miners but even then most of the profits would be flowing to AMD/Nvidia ~ heck AMD didn't even have an official "MSRP" for a lot of their high end GPU's in the last 2 years.
But how? By paying Nvidia and AMD actual percentage of the final sales price, not price agreed in advance and calculated from MSRP?
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#165
Dirt Chip
also also, EVGA will see a BIG move of people who appreciate and support them as the banner holder aginst NV (bad) practice.
some will buy their stuff as an anti-NV protest.
It is good that their product are top notch for the most part.
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#166
gffermari
Dirt Chipsome will buy their stuff as an anti-NV protest.
who buys a worse product in order to punish a company?
The competition only can change things. Not the consumer*.
*in a market with only two players.
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#167
Dr. Dro
demuEVGA is committed to graphics cards right down to the name.
Something has to change:
I bow down to your supreme mspaint skills :laugh:
LuminescentAfter they tasted that sweet and easy miners money now they are told they have to go back to tiny profits and lots of work, fu...k that.
They won't switch to AMD or Intel because it's the same deal, they make more from a keyboard or PSU.
I think it's a bit more complicated than that. EVGA was the prime partner for AIB GeForce cards in NVIDIA's largest market, which is the United States, and one of the biggest worldwide in general. It may be wise for EVGA to not burn bridges completely as XFX once did, not to mention that there might be a small cultural role in the current state of affairs. It does not seem to have been a very amicable disagreement, and NVIDIA's justifying their "ngreedia" moniker fast, from the looks of it. As stated earlier in another post, the CEO's words were very carefully chosen.

If Robert Hallock's successor at AMD is a smart person, I think we just might be surprised soon.
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#168
Bomby569
R0H1TThe margins on the cards are thin & likely getting thinner, you can see that from the profits Nvidia makes & the not so profitable AIB partner results.
what the hell are you talking about, all the AIB's printed money in the crypto crisis, just look at their financials, ASUS and Gigabyte are public companies. Compared to normal years it's insane how results went up

www.investing.com/equities/gigabyte-tech-financial-summary
www.investing.com/equities/asustek-financial-summary
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#169
R0H1T
Bomby569what the hell are you talking about, all the AIB's printed money in the crypto crisis, just look at their financials, ASUS and Gigabyte are public companies. Compared to normal years it's insane how results went up

www.investing.com/equities/gigabyte-tech-financial-summary
www.investing.com/equities/asustek-financial-summary
Did you hit your head again or time traveled back to 2020 :rolleyes:

Check their latest results, this is a bloodbath literally!
www.techpowerup.com/298147/nvidia-announces-financial-results-for-second-quarter-fiscal-2023-gaming-revenues-slashed-by-a-third#g298147
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#170
Bomby569
R0H1TDid you hit your head again or time traveled back to 2020 :rolleyes:

Check their latest results, this is a bloodbath literally!
www.techpowerup.com/298147/nvidia-announces-financial-results-for-second-quarter-fiscal-2023-gaming-revenues-slashed-by-a-third#g298147
what is wrong with you, no seriously?

their Q2 of 2022 is down, cry me a river. How could they not be down when crypto crazyness ended?

After 2 years when revenues and profits sky rocketed, results are positive bur down, a "bloodbath". I'm starting a collecting to help the Asus and Gigabytes in this troubled times, if anyone wants to participate, we must help this poor companies. :kookoo:
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#171
R0H1T
We're talking about EVGA & other AIB partners, they're probably taking a loss on lot of these cards as GN said. I have no sympathy for "Ngreedia" & the leather jacket guy o_O
Bomby569I'm starting a collecting to help the Asus and Gigabytes in this troubled times, if anyone wants to participate, we must help this poor companies. :kookoo:
You should do that; I'll contribute with my well wishes for your future endeavor!
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#172
MarsM4N
Don't be too harsh on Nvidia. The maintenance costs of their shiny headquarters, highly paid 1st class staff, R&D, it all adds up.
Biggest chunk goes to the poor shareholders. But someone has to finance their decadent lifestyle. :cool: Those who do the actual work should be happy with the bread crumbs.
Blasphemous EVGA should show some gratefulness that they had the privilege to serve Nvidia for well over 20 years. Hail Nvidia. /s

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#173
DarkS0ul
Nvidia wants to sell cards itself, they've made billions through crypto. In addition, the conditions for "pertners" were not very partnership-based. For the last three years or so the PC market has become less and less enjoyable, especially for consumers, gamers. An increasing share of the market in many areas in the hands of fewer and fewer players.
Only two mobile systems (after MS take off Nokia), taking over companies from the gaming industry by giants like Microsoft or by funds. Even the largest gaming companies could be taken over by even larger corporations without any problems. There are fewer and fewer players in the IT hardware and PC hardware markets. And many of them are the same companies that produce for example graphics cards, motherboards, monitors, mice, music cards, drives (SSD).
It is getting more and more expensive for the same, manufacturers create artificial price shelves, make premium products out of ordinary products. Probably spending more on marketing and a different sh*t than on actual progress, efficiency, quality.
Control of everything, for example at Apple, from the fact that the consumer cannot use for example, his own SD cards - billions of earnings. Yes, yes bullsh*t about safety. Cables 2-3 times more expensive, service control, control, control, control = $$$. Control at the expense of customers.
Some people sooner stop being so excited about this market than pay so much for new graphics cards, processors, smartphones and other overvalued products (including gaming).
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#174
Bomby569
EVGA is definitely different, they sold a lot of cards at MSRP when they could have made more money. Don't get me wrong they still sold a lot over MSRP and profited a lot. Still a bit better.

But the AIB's are just as bad as Nvidia, i don't get this separation, they all made a killing at the consumers expenses and went laughing to the bank. I couldn't have less sympathy for the losses they are having now. Their results shot through the roof, EVGA included as their own CEO said.

Stop chilling for companies, or taking sides on corporate wars.
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#175
R0H1T
That's false equivalence ~ Nvidia sets the MSRP not the board partners! JHH could've done the noble thing & not hiked prices, this isn't oil that is traded at NYSE or FTSE :slap:

Then again the miners could've done the more noble thing & not effed the planet many times over ~ see two can play that game? The companies are hardly blameless, though a lot of the buyers(miners?) at the time should also be shamed!
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