Wednesday, September 21st 2022

EVGA Announces Cancelation of NVIDIA Next-gen Graphics Cards Plans, Officially Terminates NVIDIA Partnership

Towards the latter half of August, multiple EVGA employees involved in technical marketing and engineering had let us know privately that they were leaving the company for other ventures. When pushed further, several hinted towards some decisions being made by EVGA's management, including CEO Andrew Han, that would jeopardize their future. Some even went far enough to say they would share more in a few weeks time about how they felt exactly about their time there, the various issues that kept them from doing their best, and also that at least a couple of ex-employees were let go. TechPowerUp was doing due diligence in collecting the facts while keeping emotions aside from contacts who were understandably not in the best of moods, and one thing common across the board was there was something major coming up dealing with the EVGA GPU product line.

Today EVGA decided to throw a massive curve ball by formally announcing the company is canceling its plans to carry the next generation of graphics cards. Given EVGA's revenue sheets point to nearly 80% contribution from being an NVIDIA add-in card partner, this effectively also means an end to a long partnership with NVIDIA. The company's CEO confirmed as much to a few media channels citing poor margins and a challenging, stressful relationship that was no longer fruitful. There are no plans for EVGA to partner with AMD or Intel at this time when it comes to graphics cards and the company stressed they will continue to sell and support current-gen GPUs having retained enough units for RMA purposes too.
Jon Peddie Research also speculates EVGA is going to shift its priorities towards power supplies and motherboards instead that allow for higher margins and a more uniform, predictable sales pattern. Time will tell how EVGA, and indeed NVIDIA too who now has to re-distribute its GPU allocation among other partners and retail solutions, will come out of this split. It certainly does not seem to be an amicable one and we do not expect the partnership to resume anytime soon. This also affects companies who were no doubt planning on accessories for EVGA-branded GPUs, such as custom watercooling blocks from the usual suspects such as EKWB, Alphacool, and Bitspower.
What About Existing Customers
All existing owners of EVGA graphics cards will remain fully covered by warranties, including full replacements if needed. The company has withheld inventory of EVGA graphics cards from retailers (and will probably recall some perfectly-functional cards), so it has buffer stock to serve existing customers in need of total replacements or RMA.

What EVGA's Future Looks Like
EVGA CEO Andrew Han stated that the company has no plans as of now to partner with another GPU manufacturer like AMD or Intel, and the exit from the graphics card business will trigger an "imminent downsizing" of the company (to shed employees associated with the graphics card business). This could also be a subtle hint to AMD and Intel that if they're looking to work with EVGA, they should express interest right now.

Graphics cards made up over three-quarters of EVGA's revenue, and so we're not sure what the company could do next. If one were to speculate, the company could increase its presence in the prebuilt notebook and gaming peripherals businesses, and probably even ride the growth-cycle in the power-supply market with ATX 3.0 and PCIe Gen 5. Next-generation high-end graphics cards are expected to trigger upgrades among those with PSUs 4 years or older, as older PSUs, particularly mainstream ones, will find it hard to deal with the power excursions (spikes) of high-end PCIe Gen 5 graphics cards. The company could also retain its PCB engineering team to further develop its motherboard business. But all these are just speculation. Unless EVGA significantly invests in its other businesses, it's done.

How does this affect NVIDIA in the North American market?
EVGA was particularly popular in the North American market, among DIY PC enthusiasts. Other NVIDIA partners such as ASUS, could attempt to fill its void, but the distinct industrial design of EVGA will be lost, as would features such as iCX; and EVGA-exclusive customer programs such as trade-in upgrades. NVIDIA may also attempt to bring in new partners to the North American market to fill EVGA's void, such as GALAX (Galaxy), or Colorful, which are both major graphics card OEMs in the Chinese market. It will now fall on them to match the design and quality standards EVGA established. EVGA's exit will have minimal impact on NVIDIA's bottom-line, as those in the market for a GeForce graphics card will ultimately buy one from whichever brand.

NVIDIA's first reaction to this development is as follows:
"We've had a great partnership with EVGA over the years and will continue to support them on our current generation of products. We wish Andrew and our friends at EVGA all the best."
EVGA's full statement is as follows:
EVGA CEO Andrew HanEVGA has terminated its relationship with NVIDIA. EVGA will no longer be manufacturing video cards of any type, citing a souring relationship with NVIDIA as the cause (among other reasons that were minimized). EVGA will not be exploring relationships with AMD or Intel at this time, and the company will be downsizing imminently as it exits the video card market. Customers will still be covered by EVGA policies, but EVGA will no longer make RTX or other video cards. The company already made, 20 EVT samples of EVGA RTX 4090 FTW3 cards, but will not be moving to production and has killed all active projects pertaining to cards, including KINGPIN cards.
According to JPR, EVGA was the best-selling NVIDIA AIB in the US market, with a market-share of nearly 40%. NVIDIA would have lead its board partners to take its place.

Update Sep 21st: KINGPIN, a long time associate of EVGA, behind some of their fastest boutique graphics cards and motherboards, posted a note of gratitude for all the fans of EVGA + KINGPIN, and stated that KINGPIN Hardware may continue in some form.
I'm thankful for all the industry friends, old colleagues, etc. that reached out. It means a lot and I appreciate it. The news isn't received well ofc, and I'm mostly sorry for the fans and people that are passionate for our brand and everything that we have done here over the years at EVGA. If the KP hardware is meant to continue on in one way or another, I'm sure that it will :). The EVGA and PC hardware enthusiast community have been great to me and my teams here over the years, THANK YOU.
Update Sep 21st: Jensen Huang responded to a question about his thoughts on EVGA in a Q&A session today:
Jensen HuangYou know, Andrew (EVGA CEO) wanted to wind down the business, and he's wanted to do that for a couple of years. Andrew and EVGA were, are great partners and we're great partners, and I'm sad to see them leave the market. But, he's got other plans and he's been thinking about it for several years, so I guess that's about it. The market has a lot of great players and it will be served well after EVGA, but I'll always miss them, they were an important part of our history, Andrew is a great friend. I think that it was just time for him to go do something else."
Sources: Jon Peddie Research, Gamers Nexus, EVGA, Tae Kim (Twitter)
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536 Comments on EVGA Announces Cancelation of NVIDIA Next-gen Graphics Cards Plans, Officially Terminates NVIDIA Partnership

#201
PapaTaipei
The way I see it, I don't even understand what's the point for NV or AMD to have other companies selling what they could sell themself. There is definitely a reason but it's 100% not what ppl think.
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#202
R0H1T
Bomby569that's inventory management. Probably shouldn't have bought at such a high volume and price before the crash.
The claim made over and over again that EVGA bussiness plan was to keep the same MSRP, keep selling 3090ti at the MSRP when demand plummeted, there's a lot of used cards in the market and the new cards are coming in weeks. That sounds like a stupid business plan to me. Of course prices had to come down to clear inventory.
They just f'ed up their inventory, to many cards in stock counting that the crypto demand would never stop.

Nvidia shouldn't lower MSRP, no one should lower prices. The end result was those were never going to be sold.

Absurd point made there mate.
Look EVGA's cost of operations is probably much higher than say ASUS, is that why they're kinda going under? Yes, but there's always the argument to be made that Nvidia drove them off the cliff & that's also totally valid.

Basically if you're not big enough don't expect to stay in the market for any lengths of time ~ this is how businesses worldwide are going & generally speaking quality of components/after sales service & consumer trust is also going down to the bin! The ones at the very top ~ QC/Intel/Apple/Nvidia & yes AMD are largely responsible for this.

We can choose any side we want to but we're just choosing the lesser evil & siding with EVGA is doing that IMO.
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#203
maxfly
Ngreedia pitching its next victim.
Hey kid, I've got a line on a whopper of a deal just for you!!! I'm gonna partner up with ya and I will make you rich.
This deal is so generous that not only am I gonna lock you into a suffocating supply deal but I'm gonna directly compete against you for the 1st 6 months that our new shiney juiced up item hits the street! BUT... I just might change my mind and keep right on competin against ya if business is good! Just think, if you sell hundreds of thousands of units you'll have enough loot to pay your newly hired employees and buy a car! Sounds great huh?!
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#204
R0H1T
maxflyNgreedia pitching its next victim.
Hey kid, I've got a line on a whopper of a deal just for you!!! I'm gonna partner up with ya and I will make you rich.
This deal is so generous that not only am I gonna lock you into a suffocating supply deal but I'm gonna directly compete against you for the 1st 6 months that our new shiney juiced up item hits the street! BUT... I just might change my mind and keep right on competin against ya if business is good! Just think, if you sell hundreds of thousands of units you'll have enough loot to pay your newly hired employees and buy a car! Sounds great huh?!
Actually it does, where do I sign up?
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#205
damric
It seems to me, the logical person to blame...

Is...

Raja
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#206
R-T-B
damricIt seems to me, the logical person to blame...

Is...

Raja
Well naturally. It's his fault EVGA can't look to Intel as an actual option!!!! /s

Actually, forget the /s. It probably is.
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#207
Vayra86
Weird, though evga wasnt doing great lately, one meh launch after another.
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#208
Bomby569
R0H1TLook EVGA's cost of operations is probably much higher than say ASUS, is that why they're kinda going under? Yes, but there's always the argument to be made that Nvidia drove them off the cliff & that's also totally valid.

Basically if you're not big enough don't expect to stay in the market for any lengths of time ~ this is how businesses worldwide are going & generally speaking quality of components/after sales service & consumer trust is also going down to the bin! The ones at the very top ~ QC/Intel/Apple/Nvidia & yes AMD are largely responsible for this.

We can choose any side we want to but we're just choosing the lesser evil & siding with EVGA is doing that IMO.
it just means if you're smaller you have to be more carefull, manage inventory much more wisely. They tried to play big and didn't had the strength for it.
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#209
the54thvoid
Super Intoxicated Moderator
On the pricing, I thought much of that was wholesalers and distributors ramping up profits, or at least selling to miners before inventory even reached retail channels, which were then left with no choice to pay over the odds for highly limited stock and pass it on to us.
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#210
TheoneandonlyMrK
Bomby569that's inventory management. Probably shouldn't have bought at such a high volume and price before the crash.
The claim made over and over again that EVGA bussiness plan was to keep the same MSRP, keep selling 3090ti at the MSRP when demand plummeted, there's a lot of used cards in the market and the new cards are coming in weeks. That sounds like a stupid business plan to me. Of course prices had to come down to clear inventory.
They just f'ed up their inventory, to many cards in stock counting that the crypto demand would never stop.

Nvidia shouldn't lower MSRP, no one should lower prices. The end result was those were never going to be sold.

Absurd point made there mate.
Your the one being absurd, no one is debating the price needed lowering.
But Evga didn't get to choose how much to pay Nvidia, when and what for, That's the f£#@&g Point.

They can't continue to have a random amount turn up without notice for a price they can't set.

Then sell in opposition to the guy they bought chip's off WHO CAN set his buying prices and sale price pretty much on a whim and at a advantage.
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#211
Bomby569
TheoneandonlyMrKYour the one being absurd, no one is debating the price needed lowering.
But Evga didn't get to choose how much to pay Nvidia, when and what for, That's the f£#@&g Point.

They can't continue to have a random amount turn up without notice for a price they can't set.

Then sell in opposition to the guy they bought chip's off WHO CAN set his buying prices and sale price pretty much on a whim and at a advantage.
Can nvidia choose how much to pay Samsung for the chips? i'm sorry but your point makes no sense.

It's up to EVGA to decide if they can make a profit or not and how to manage their inventory, with the conditions it's dealt with.
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#212
R0H1T
Bomby569it just means if you're smaller you have to be more carefull, manage inventory much more wisely. They tried to play big and didn't had the strength for it.
You just continue to deny basic reality & market dynamics of operating in the world today, have you like run a business recently? In the world of hardware these days sell more, & more & even more is the only way (smaller) companies survive. Because the largest piece of the pie is already taken at the top!
You can't be selling something which is mass market, not so unique & still expect to survive without major volumes!
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#213
Bomby569
R0H1TYou just continue to deny basic reality & market dynamics of operating in the world today, have you like run a business recently? In the world of hardware these days sell more, & more & even more is the only way (smaller) companies survive. Because the largest piece of the pie is already taken at the top!
You can't be selling something which is mass market, not so unique & still expect to survive without major volumes!
the big guy abuses the little guy, more news at 11

yes very very hard to survive seeing profits and revenue sky rocket, sad, sad times for the industry.
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#214
Diverge
Hopefully this leads to other companies doing the same so AMD and Nvidia have to compete on price and power efficiency. GPU's have been out of hand for a long time.
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#215
AnarchoPrimitiv
Bomby569Can nvidia choose how much to pay Samsung for the chips? i'm sorry but your point makes no sense.

It's up to EVGA to decide if they can make a profit or not and how to manage their inventory, with the conditions it's dealt with.
Are you denying the fact that, with respect to AIBs, Nvidia has total control? Did you watch the Gamers Nexus video on this subject? Nvidia controls everything., and this has been confirmed by other AIBs as well, especially the fact that Nvidia is notoriously difficult to work with...based on Huang's ego, this sounds correct. BTW, apparently EVGA was Nvidia's largest AIB partner, with respect to EVGA selling more GPUs than any other partner, and even they didn't have any influence with Nvidia. EVGA isn't some incompetent small actor, but it seems that you're implying just that idea.
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#216
Bomby569
AnarchoPrimitivAre you denying the fact that, with respect to AIBs, Nvidia has total control? Did you watch the Gamers Nexus video on this subject? Nvidia controls everything., and this has been confirmed by other AIBs as well, especially the fact that Nvidia is notoriously difficult to work with...based on Huang's ego, this sounds correct. BTW, apparently EVGA was Nvidia's largest AIB partner, with respect to EVGA selling more GPUs than any other partner, and even they didn't have any influence with Nvidia. EVGA isn't some incompetent small actor, but it seems that you're implying just that idea.
i'm not denying things i didn't talked about, no. That i can confirm.
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#217
oxrufiioxo
Pretty bummed about this personally owned EVGA 680's, 980ti, 1080's,1080ti, 3080ti..... All were great and still work to this day. Their customer service seems to be the best of any of the Nvidia partners although Nvidia direct CS seems pretty good to me as well. Even though they have no plans to make any I would definitely buy an EVGA Radeon card as I am not a huge fan of Sapphire or XFX.
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#219
Redwoodz
Nvidia is the best company name ever created. It means exactly what it says(Latin). WHY do you people keep supporting the racket?????
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#220
nguyen
oxrufiioxoPretty bummed about this personally owned EVGA 680's, 980ti, 1080's,1080ti, 3080ti..... All were great and still work till this day. Their customer service seems to be the best of any of the Nvidia partners although Nvidia direct CS seems pretty good to me as well. Even though they have no plans to make any I would definitely buy an EVGA Radeon card as I am not a huge fan of Sapphire or XFX.
Honestly I have never dealt with CS from any companies other than EVGA (4 dead 7800GT back in the day) and I bought GPU almost every gen for 20 years, every single GPU from other brands that I bought just live way too long LOL
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#221
oxrufiioxo
nguyenHonestly I have never dealt with CS from any companies other than EVGA (4 dead 7800GT back in the day) and I bought GPU almost every gen for 20 years, every single GPU from other brands that I bought just live way too long LOL
I've owned multiple gpu from every manufacturer as well only XFX, Sapphire, and Powercolor cards have ever died on me.
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#222
Space Lynx
Astronaut
oxrufiioxoPretty bummed about this personally owned EVGA 680's, 980ti, 1080's,1080ti, 3080ti..... All were great and still work to this day. Their customer service seems to be the best of any of the Nvidia partners although Nvidia direct CS seems pretty good to me as well. Even though they have no plans to make any I would definitely buy an EVGA Radeon card as I am not a huge fan of Sapphire or XFX.
the Asus STRIX line is good, albeit pricey, and MSI is not bad.

when 1080 ti was relatively new I had a gigabyte windforce 1080 ti, and it was decent. the fans seemed a little cheap on it though.

I am probably going for Asus STRIX for my next gen card.
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#223
fluxc0d3r
Never bought an EVGA product ever, Asus and MSI have much better GPU coolers now than EVGA, which are much more quieter. Most people nowadays care more about noise more than if it's got beefy capacitors, thus the Noctua GPU coolers.

New EVGA motherboards take almost forever to get released, doubt many people would buy them when they have already built their new system months ago.

And they want to compete elsewhere in the market where NZXT and other smaller companies have dominated over the years.

They could lower their ridiculous high prices and save their GPU market, but nooo...they care too much about their brand cachet.
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#224
CyberCT
openbox1980When I was selling computer parts, the EVGA 2080ti black edition was the worst. I had so many returns on that model.
I have the that exact black edition ... bought with a coupon code for $950 directly from EVGA. While it was very loud (I didn't know about undervolting yet), I bought their AIO cooler for it ... and not it runs like a champ and overclocks VERY well. Better than any of my 30 series cards.
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#225
oxidized
RedwoodzNvidia is the best company name ever created. It means exactly what it says(Latin). WHY do you people keep supporting the racket?????
I haven't been supporting the "racket" for a while now, as i still own a 1060, but there's no option, AMD GPUs suck, have lots of problems with drivers and are subpar, beside that nvidia doing nvidia isn't the problem here, otherwise evga could've just switched to AMD, just like XFX and others did before, so there's probably another reason for this to be happening.
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