Wednesday, September 21st 2022

EVGA Announces Cancelation of NVIDIA Next-gen Graphics Cards Plans, Officially Terminates NVIDIA Partnership

Towards the latter half of August, multiple EVGA employees involved in technical marketing and engineering had let us know privately that they were leaving the company for other ventures. When pushed further, several hinted towards some decisions being made by EVGA's management, including CEO Andrew Han, that would jeopardize their future. Some even went far enough to say they would share more in a few weeks time about how they felt exactly about their time there, the various issues that kept them from doing their best, and also that at least a couple of ex-employees were let go. TechPowerUp was doing due diligence in collecting the facts while keeping emotions aside from contacts who were understandably not in the best of moods, and one thing common across the board was there was something major coming up dealing with the EVGA GPU product line.

Today EVGA decided to throw a massive curve ball by formally announcing the company is canceling its plans to carry the next generation of graphics cards. Given EVGA's revenue sheets point to nearly 80% contribution from being an NVIDIA add-in card partner, this effectively also means an end to a long partnership with NVIDIA. The company's CEO confirmed as much to a few media channels citing poor margins and a challenging, stressful relationship that was no longer fruitful. There are no plans for EVGA to partner with AMD or Intel at this time when it comes to graphics cards and the company stressed they will continue to sell and support current-gen GPUs having retained enough units for RMA purposes too.
Jon Peddie Research also speculates EVGA is going to shift its priorities towards power supplies and motherboards instead that allow for higher margins and a more uniform, predictable sales pattern. Time will tell how EVGA, and indeed NVIDIA too who now has to re-distribute its GPU allocation among other partners and retail solutions, will come out of this split. It certainly does not seem to be an amicable one and we do not expect the partnership to resume anytime soon. This also affects companies who were no doubt planning on accessories for EVGA-branded GPUs, such as custom watercooling blocks from the usual suspects such as EKWB, Alphacool, and Bitspower.
What About Existing Customers
All existing owners of EVGA graphics cards will remain fully covered by warranties, including full replacements if needed. The company has withheld inventory of EVGA graphics cards from retailers (and will probably recall some perfectly-functional cards), so it has buffer stock to serve existing customers in need of total replacements or RMA.

What EVGA's Future Looks Like
EVGA CEO Andrew Han stated that the company has no plans as of now to partner with another GPU manufacturer like AMD or Intel, and the exit from the graphics card business will trigger an "imminent downsizing" of the company (to shed employees associated with the graphics card business). This could also be a subtle hint to AMD and Intel that if they're looking to work with EVGA, they should express interest right now.

Graphics cards made up over three-quarters of EVGA's revenue, and so we're not sure what the company could do next. If one were to speculate, the company could increase its presence in the prebuilt notebook and gaming peripherals businesses, and probably even ride the growth-cycle in the power-supply market with ATX 3.0 and PCIe Gen 5. Next-generation high-end graphics cards are expected to trigger upgrades among those with PSUs 4 years or older, as older PSUs, particularly mainstream ones, will find it hard to deal with the power excursions (spikes) of high-end PCIe Gen 5 graphics cards. The company could also retain its PCB engineering team to further develop its motherboard business. But all these are just speculation. Unless EVGA significantly invests in its other businesses, it's done.

How does this affect NVIDIA in the North American market?
EVGA was particularly popular in the North American market, among DIY PC enthusiasts. Other NVIDIA partners such as ASUS, could attempt to fill its void, but the distinct industrial design of EVGA will be lost, as would features such as iCX; and EVGA-exclusive customer programs such as trade-in upgrades. NVIDIA may also attempt to bring in new partners to the North American market to fill EVGA's void, such as GALAX (Galaxy), or Colorful, which are both major graphics card OEMs in the Chinese market. It will now fall on them to match the design and quality standards EVGA established. EVGA's exit will have minimal impact on NVIDIA's bottom-line, as those in the market for a GeForce graphics card will ultimately buy one from whichever brand.

NVIDIA's first reaction to this development is as follows:
"We've had a great partnership with EVGA over the years and will continue to support them on our current generation of products. We wish Andrew and our friends at EVGA all the best."
EVGA's full statement is as follows:
EVGA CEO Andrew HanEVGA has terminated its relationship with NVIDIA. EVGA will no longer be manufacturing video cards of any type, citing a souring relationship with NVIDIA as the cause (among other reasons that were minimized). EVGA will not be exploring relationships with AMD or Intel at this time, and the company will be downsizing imminently as it exits the video card market. Customers will still be covered by EVGA policies, but EVGA will no longer make RTX or other video cards. The company already made, 20 EVT samples of EVGA RTX 4090 FTW3 cards, but will not be moving to production and has killed all active projects pertaining to cards, including KINGPIN cards.
According to JPR, EVGA was the best-selling NVIDIA AIB in the US market, with a market-share of nearly 40%. NVIDIA would have lead its board partners to take its place.

Update Sep 21st: KINGPIN, a long time associate of EVGA, behind some of their fastest boutique graphics cards and motherboards, posted a note of gratitude for all the fans of EVGA + KINGPIN, and stated that KINGPIN Hardware may continue in some form.
I'm thankful for all the industry friends, old colleagues, etc. that reached out. It means a lot and I appreciate it. The news isn't received well ofc, and I'm mostly sorry for the fans and people that are passionate for our brand and everything that we have done here over the years at EVGA. If the KP hardware is meant to continue on in one way or another, I'm sure that it will :). The EVGA and PC hardware enthusiast community have been great to me and my teams here over the years, THANK YOU.
Update Sep 21st: Jensen Huang responded to a question about his thoughts on EVGA in a Q&A session today:
Jensen HuangYou know, Andrew (EVGA CEO) wanted to wind down the business, and he's wanted to do that for a couple of years. Andrew and EVGA were, are great partners and we're great partners, and I'm sad to see them leave the market. But, he's got other plans and he's been thinking about it for several years, so I guess that's about it. The market has a lot of great players and it will be served well after EVGA, but I'll always miss them, they were an important part of our history, Andrew is a great friend. I think that it was just time for him to go do something else."
Sources: Jon Peddie Research, Gamers Nexus, EVGA, Tae Kim (Twitter)
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536 Comments on EVGA Announces Cancelation of NVIDIA Next-gen Graphics Cards Plans, Officially Terminates NVIDIA Partnership

#276
Colddecked
FluffmeisterYeah enough with the brand hate, it's a two horse race ladies, stop pretending to care about EVGA when most of you wouldn't touch them with a barge pole because they were Nvidia only.

Your hatred of Nvidia doomed EVGA, well done.
Ok sure, everyone hates Nvidia so much they have a massive lead in market share? Lets just ignore Founders Edition cards that they sell cheaper than any other AIB. It's honestly amazing they still have AIB partners.
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#277
samum
The Von MatricesWho cares about revenue if there's no profit to be made?
Exactly. The top line is nice, but it's the bottom line that matters.
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#278
Fluffmeister
ColddeckedOk sure, everyone hates Nvidia so much they have a massive lead in market share? Lets just ignore Founders Edition cards that they sell cheaper than any other AIB. It's honestly amazing they still have AIB partners.
I guess, I mean if those AIB partners don't like it they are free to develop their own GPUs and sell them instead.
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#279
OneMoar
There is Always Moar
lets not kid our selves

evga ran themselves into the ground nvidia has nothing NOTHING todo with this despite what Mr Han wants you to think
this is classic corpo misdirection blame nvidia for his failing and storm out of the room hoping to cause a scene

I suspect that this is a stalking horse play evga has a buyer in the wings and they don't want the gpu assets

I suspect evga to be sold or merged or otherwise non-existent within the next 3-6 months if not sooner


the writing has been on the wall for awhile EVGA has been in a downward spiral for years

half there staff left earlier this year, this has nothing todo with Nvidia being "mean" or a "bully" (and they absolutely are but not the point)
you don't see any other AIB publicly crying about it

and seriously Making Company ending business decisions because you are offended? WTF??????

on what planet is that solid business sense ? its absurd Speaking of..

Furthermore pivoting to motherboards and psus?frankly absurd: they aren't a major player in any of those segments, when was the last time you saw a build featuring a evga motherboard or even psu?

thats a lousy lousy excuse I am am surprised anybody bought it

evga is a corporation and corporations are SAY IT WITH ME NOT YOUR FRIENDS
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#280
R0H1T
EVGA isn't blameless but it'd be a gross oversight to neglect what Nvidia are doing for the last decade & will continue to do so in the next, if the users & their board partners don't neglect this potential inflection point!
OneMoarand seriously Making Company ending business decisions because you are offended?
on what planet is that solid business sense ? its absurd
He probably didn't mean it literally otherwise he wouldn't be running a business for 20+ years. The commentary sounds more like what China does in their usual PR, maybe it's a cultural thing where "pride & feelings" are often exaggerated as major sticking points. This is a purely business decision as you could see with their falling margins.
www.jonpeddie.com/news/evga-wont-offer-nvidia-next-gen-series
mechtechJust blame covid ;)
Or the Martians, or that guy who gets you banned from the forums or that other guy o_O
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#281
Hxx
ColddeckedOk sure, everyone hates Nvidia so much they have a massive lead in market share? Lets just ignore Founders Edition cards that they sell cheaper than any other AIB. It's honestly amazing they still have AIB partners.
my guess is Nvidia wants to do away with AIBs or severely limit their allocation and skus. Nvidia is a big enough company to handle its own retail channels to end users. My guess is EVGA is sort of seeing this end of AIBs and they are backing out early in the process. good for them.
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#282
OneMoar
There is Always Moar
R0H1TEVGA isn't blameless but it'd be a gross oversight to neglect what Nvidia are doing for the last decade & will continue to do so in the next, if the users & their board partners don't neglect this potential inflection point!

He probably didn't mean it literally otherwise he wouldn't be running a business for 20+ years. The commentary sounds more like what China does in their usual PR, maybe it's a cultural thing where "pride & feelings" are often exaggerated as major sticking points. This is a purely business decision as you could see with their falling margins.
www.jonpeddie.com/news/evga-wont-offer-nvidia-next-gen-series

Or the Martians, or that guy who gets you banned from the forums or that other guy o_O
20 years as a American company you would think he would know better
nope not buying it
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#283
R-T-B
OneMoarwhen was the last time you saw a build featuring a evga motherboard or even psu?
The mobos are admitedly rare to see, but man, have you been living under a rock? Their PSUs are pretty much everywhere.

They are rebrands, sure, but that's profitable.
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#284
R0H1T
Not everywhere but they're a lot more profitable/popular than their GPU's outside NA, Western Europe. EVGA is still a marginal brand in this part of the world, even if you only consider their mobos or PSU.
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#285
OneMoar
There is Always Moar
R-T-BThe mobos are admitedly rare to see, but man, have you been living under a rock? Their PSUs are pretty much everywhere.

They are rebrands, sure, but that's profitable.
they aren't what I would consider a first tier supplier or even a second tier
at least from a market presence pov
somebody says psu what brands that come to mind
and evgas motherboard department is dead in the water according to gn
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#286
R0H1T
OneMoarsomebody says psu what brands that come to mind
Asus, Gigabyte, MSI, Antec, Cooler Master, Seasonic, Corsair, ADATA, Deepcool, Silverstone in no particular order. Basically they're GPU's or bust, they may survive with just making reselling PSU's but I'm not sure how they ride it out with just the one product line which also has some serious competition. They will have to make more stuff & enter other markets, maybe even GPU's from AMD/Intel or else realistically they're poof a few years from now.
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#287
maxfly
OneMoarthey aren't what I would consider a first tier supplier or even a second tier
at least from a market presence pov
somebody says psu what brands that come to mind
and evgas motherboard department is dead in the water according to gn
Lmao
You're either way out of touch or intentionally being facetious. There's only 4 or 5 top notch PSU companies and EVGA has been amongst that group for many years.
Their mb division has never been a major player in the big picture but most everyone knows that without a tuber giving them the tip.
If you feel jaded by EVGA for whatever reason, cool do you but stop with the nonsensical bs.
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#288
R0H1T
He's partially right about EVGA, they're major brand catering to what a billion or so people in NA, Western Europe? When you're talking about ~5 billion in this part of the world they're not even in the top 5 & yes that includes just PSU's or PSU+GPU (motherboards?) market.

Over here Gigabyte, Cooler Master, Deepcool, Antec, Corsair are the top 5 IMO.
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#289
FinlandApollo
R0H1THe's partially right about EVGA, they're major brand catering to what a billion or so people in NA, Western Europe? When you're talking about ~5 billion in this part of the world they're not even in the top 5 & yes that includes just PSU's or PSU+GPU (motherboards?) market.

Over here Gigabyte, Cooler Master, Deepcool, Antec, Corsair are the top 5 IMO.
By what standards Gigabyte is the top 5? Quality, nope. Same goes with current quality of Antec and majority of Deepcool's alternative.

Quality wise, EVGA is up there with Corsair's high end and Seasonic
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#290
OneMoar
There is Always Moar
FinlandApolloBy what standards Gigabyte is the top 5? Quality, nope. Same goes with current quality of Antec and majority of Deepcool's alternative.

Quality wise, EVGA is up there with Corsair's high end and Seasonic
thats the point they don't make there own psus they rebrand somebody elses ? why would I now buy a evga psu when I can't trust that the company will even exist in a year ?
not only that at first they where re-branded superflower, now they are FSP junk
explain why I would want that ?
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#291
R0H1T
FinlandApolloBy what standards Gigabyte is the top 5? Quality, nope. Same goes with current quality of Antec and majority of Deepcool's alternative.

Quality wise, EVGA is up there with Corsair's high end and Seasonic
By selling more in Asia than EVGA? That's why I said here, it's either Asus or Gigabyte & they're both much bigger in terms of market presence plus sales.
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#292
OneMoar
There is Always Moar
asias market is even harder then north america or the eu
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#293
R0H1T
And bigger, plus the only one with substantial growth potential. EVGA is basically addressing only ~40% of the market, if they'd compete more here they'd probably have their PSU margins cut in half.
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#294
maxfly
Gigabyte...the sorriest of the sorry. That says everything we need to know about this conversation.

Back on topic before the banhammer comes down is my advice. Later.
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#295
Bomby569
chrcolukMight help EU supply given EVGA stock share was so imbalanced in USA favour. Hopefully their allocation goes to partners with better worldwide spread now.
good point, let's hope
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#296
taka
Some companies have products in all tiers, low to hi. Evga didn't have this as far as i know. Now it depends what tier you choose when forming an oppinion.
Some companies like Gigabyte decided to slow down top tiers and sell only low. Aorus was quite good a few years ago.
But from a bussines point of view, if you sell more low tiers, why bother with hi end?
Just for prestige? Look at EVGA now.

Later edited, EVGA had tiering, but all tiers were overpriced compared to rest.
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#297
Bomby569
takaSome companies have products in all tiers, low to hi. Evga didn't have this as far as i know. Now it depends what tier you choose when forming an oppinion.
Some companies like Gigabyte decided to slow down top tiers and sell only low. Aorus was quite good a few years ago.
But from a bussines point of view, if you sell more low tiers, why bother with hi end?
Just for prestige? Look at EVGA now.

Later edited, EVGA had tiering, but all tiers were overpriced compared to rest.
EVGA sold low end cards and low end PSU's.
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#298
taka
I always sort one product after price, EVGA are on last page. A 3060 from them is same or more money as a 3070 from others.
Never had one and look's i never will.
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#299
Sora
DeathtoGnomesHere is a guess. The has to do with GPU prices since they are crashing.
  1. EVGA payed higher base prices to Nvidia during the shortage.
  2. As GPU prices continue to drop, EVGA card stock is worth less than when they originally paid to fill the warehouses during the shortage.
  3. Nvidia will not give EVGA a break on the cards they do have in stock.
  4. Without the adjustment from Nvidia, EVGA will lose their ass on current stock.
  5. Ngreddia said tough luck, thats the price of doing business.
  6. EVGA now pissed off brings us here.
Correct.

also Andrew is a psycho
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#300
Vario
I am also wondering if there might be something else on EVGA's books that we don't know about.

If they are to continue, I think they should go all in on customized DDR5 (much like Gskill, Corsair, Team) and motherboards.
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