Wednesday, September 21st 2022

EVGA Announces Cancelation of NVIDIA Next-gen Graphics Cards Plans, Officially Terminates NVIDIA Partnership

Towards the latter half of August, multiple EVGA employees involved in technical marketing and engineering had let us know privately that they were leaving the company for other ventures. When pushed further, several hinted towards some decisions being made by EVGA's management, including CEO Andrew Han, that would jeopardize their future. Some even went far enough to say they would share more in a few weeks time about how they felt exactly about their time there, the various issues that kept them from doing their best, and also that at least a couple of ex-employees were let go. TechPowerUp was doing due diligence in collecting the facts while keeping emotions aside from contacts who were understandably not in the best of moods, and one thing common across the board was there was something major coming up dealing with the EVGA GPU product line.

Today EVGA decided to throw a massive curve ball by formally announcing the company is canceling its plans to carry the next generation of graphics cards. Given EVGA's revenue sheets point to nearly 80% contribution from being an NVIDIA add-in card partner, this effectively also means an end to a long partnership with NVIDIA. The company's CEO confirmed as much to a few media channels citing poor margins and a challenging, stressful relationship that was no longer fruitful. There are no plans for EVGA to partner with AMD or Intel at this time when it comes to graphics cards and the company stressed they will continue to sell and support current-gen GPUs having retained enough units for RMA purposes too.
Jon Peddie Research also speculates EVGA is going to shift its priorities towards power supplies and motherboards instead that allow for higher margins and a more uniform, predictable sales pattern. Time will tell how EVGA, and indeed NVIDIA too who now has to re-distribute its GPU allocation among other partners and retail solutions, will come out of this split. It certainly does not seem to be an amicable one and we do not expect the partnership to resume anytime soon. This also affects companies who were no doubt planning on accessories for EVGA-branded GPUs, such as custom watercooling blocks from the usual suspects such as EKWB, Alphacool, and Bitspower.
What About Existing Customers
All existing owners of EVGA graphics cards will remain fully covered by warranties, including full replacements if needed. The company has withheld inventory of EVGA graphics cards from retailers (and will probably recall some perfectly-functional cards), so it has buffer stock to serve existing customers in need of total replacements or RMA.

What EVGA's Future Looks Like
EVGA CEO Andrew Han stated that the company has no plans as of now to partner with another GPU manufacturer like AMD or Intel, and the exit from the graphics card business will trigger an "imminent downsizing" of the company (to shed employees associated with the graphics card business). This could also be a subtle hint to AMD and Intel that if they're looking to work with EVGA, they should express interest right now.

Graphics cards made up over three-quarters of EVGA's revenue, and so we're not sure what the company could do next. If one were to speculate, the company could increase its presence in the prebuilt notebook and gaming peripherals businesses, and probably even ride the growth-cycle in the power-supply market with ATX 3.0 and PCIe Gen 5. Next-generation high-end graphics cards are expected to trigger upgrades among those with PSUs 4 years or older, as older PSUs, particularly mainstream ones, will find it hard to deal with the power excursions (spikes) of high-end PCIe Gen 5 graphics cards. The company could also retain its PCB engineering team to further develop its motherboard business. But all these are just speculation. Unless EVGA significantly invests in its other businesses, it's done.

How does this affect NVIDIA in the North American market?
EVGA was particularly popular in the North American market, among DIY PC enthusiasts. Other NVIDIA partners such as ASUS, could attempt to fill its void, but the distinct industrial design of EVGA will be lost, as would features such as iCX; and EVGA-exclusive customer programs such as trade-in upgrades. NVIDIA may also attempt to bring in new partners to the North American market to fill EVGA's void, such as GALAX (Galaxy), or Colorful, which are both major graphics card OEMs in the Chinese market. It will now fall on them to match the design and quality standards EVGA established. EVGA's exit will have minimal impact on NVIDIA's bottom-line, as those in the market for a GeForce graphics card will ultimately buy one from whichever brand.

NVIDIA's first reaction to this development is as follows:
"We've had a great partnership with EVGA over the years and will continue to support them on our current generation of products. We wish Andrew and our friends at EVGA all the best."
EVGA's full statement is as follows:
EVGA CEO Andrew HanEVGA has terminated its relationship with NVIDIA. EVGA will no longer be manufacturing video cards of any type, citing a souring relationship with NVIDIA as the cause (among other reasons that were minimized). EVGA will not be exploring relationships with AMD or Intel at this time, and the company will be downsizing imminently as it exits the video card market. Customers will still be covered by EVGA policies, but EVGA will no longer make RTX or other video cards. The company already made, 20 EVT samples of EVGA RTX 4090 FTW3 cards, but will not be moving to production and has killed all active projects pertaining to cards, including KINGPIN cards.
According to JPR, EVGA was the best-selling NVIDIA AIB in the US market, with a market-share of nearly 40%. NVIDIA would have lead its board partners to take its place.

Update Sep 21st: KINGPIN, a long time associate of EVGA, behind some of their fastest boutique graphics cards and motherboards, posted a note of gratitude for all the fans of EVGA + KINGPIN, and stated that KINGPIN Hardware may continue in some form.
I'm thankful for all the industry friends, old colleagues, etc. that reached out. It means a lot and I appreciate it. The news isn't received well ofc, and I'm mostly sorry for the fans and people that are passionate for our brand and everything that we have done here over the years at EVGA. If the KP hardware is meant to continue on in one way or another, I'm sure that it will :). The EVGA and PC hardware enthusiast community have been great to me and my teams here over the years, THANK YOU.
Update Sep 21st: Jensen Huang responded to a question about his thoughts on EVGA in a Q&A session today:
Jensen HuangYou know, Andrew (EVGA CEO) wanted to wind down the business, and he's wanted to do that for a couple of years. Andrew and EVGA were, are great partners and we're great partners, and I'm sad to see them leave the market. But, he's got other plans and he's been thinking about it for several years, so I guess that's about it. The market has a lot of great players and it will be served well after EVGA, but I'll always miss them, they were an important part of our history, Andrew is a great friend. I think that it was just time for him to go do something else."
Sources: Jon Peddie Research, Gamers Nexus, EVGA, Tae Kim (Twitter)
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536 Comments on EVGA Announces Cancelation of NVIDIA Next-gen Graphics Cards Plans, Officially Terminates NVIDIA Partnership

#326
Valantar
80-watt HamsterSpeculation: CEO wants to retire; doesn't have a successor, doesn't want to go public, but wants to get some money out of the company. Solution: trim the business back to the higher-margin, easier-to-manage product lines. Keep the venture rolling until you can arrange a sale of the brand to a holding company (i.e. pull an Antec).

Signs had been accumulating that all pointed to something, just didn't know that it would be this.
GN asked him as much, and he said "No." So while it's a reasonable guess, it's not the case - but he did confirm the decision was partly driven by a desire to not be constantly caught up in Nvidia business drama and instead getting the opportunity to spend more time with his family. So, not retiring, but also not wanting to spend 100% of his time trying to run a company at the whim of their largest supplier.
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#327
Bwaze
Sorry, but I'd have to hear complaints from other AIB partners before I buy the "margins are to slim for one of the largest GPU makers to still remain in bussiness".
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#328
Valantar
BwazeSorry, but I'd have to hear complaints from other AIB partners before I buy the "margins are to slim for one of the largest GPU makers to still remain in bussiness".
This is really nothing new, it's been quite widely reported for years. AIB partners are being seriously squeezed as chipmakers demand ever higher margins.
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#329
64K
I would like to hear more from those EVGA employees in a few weeks that the OP was referring to.
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#330
DeathtoGnomes
R-T-BTheir motherboards are excellent actually. I'm using one now on my main rig. The starting msrps are geared towards their "will buy anything" fanbase, but if you wait, you can get them at much more realistic prices (I got this board in specs for $225 shipped, it's msrp is like $500 something lol).

The bios updates are even timely on Ryzen. Yeah, not buying the idea they are giving up there.
Quality is relative to the viewer. However, that doesnt mean they cant take your board and make even better (mo'betta), thats more of what I was trying to suggest.
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#331
maxfly
R-T-BI'd say for me the first three are Corsair, EVGA, and Seasonic. Not in that order neccesarily.


Their motherboards are excellent actually. I'm using one now on my main rig. The starting msrps are geared towards their "will buy anything" fanbase, but if you wait, you can get them at much more realistic prices (I got this board in specs for $225 shipped, it's msrp is like $500 something lol).

The bios updates are even timely on Ryzen. Yeah, not buying the idea they are giving up there.
Exactly, anyone that has even a modicum of psu knowledge would agree with those three being among the top 5 no question. No matter what part of the world you reside in, quality is quality.

I've also had excellent luck with EVGA mbs. Two of the best rigs I've ever had were EVGA mb based. They simply don't focus nearly as much of their company assets towards development compared to the big four. If they do in fact make the changes that were announced. I have no doubts they will once again regain their past motherboard successes.
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#332
GeForce_JacobF
NVIDIA GeForce Rep
erekI’m just hoping that pompous & somewhat arrogant EVGA Jacob Freemen social media influencer will finally relinquish / put up for sale his nVidia GeForce FX 5800 Ultra. That i need, tbh
I have been called many things over the years but a social media influencer is definitely a new one! :)
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#333
64K
My EVGA Supernova Gold was given an outstanding review on jonnyguru and concluded with a rating of 9.9 out of 10

It doesn't get better than that.
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#334
mama
64KMy EVGA Supernova Gold was given an outstanding review on jonnyguru and concluded with a rating of 9.9 out of 10

It doesn't get better than that.
Well it can get better... Admittedly not by much.
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#335
lexluthermiester
80-watt HamsterSpeculation: CEO wants to retire; doesn't have a successor, doesn't want to go public, but wants to get some money out of the company. Solution: trim the business back to the higher-margin, easier-to-manage product lines. Keep the venture rolling until you can arrange a sale of the brand to a holding company (i.e. pull an Antec).

Signs had been accumulating that all pointed to something, just didn't know that it would be this.
That's an interesting theory. Wonder if there's any truth to it...
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#336
80-watt Hamster
lexluthermiesterThat's an interesting theory. Wonder if there's any truth to it...
@Valantar rightly pointed out that EVGA explicitly denied it. I'd love to be wrong, and even more pleased if they get back into the game later.
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#337
64K
mamaWell it can get better... Admittedly not by much.
Going from a 9.9/10 to a 10/10 would be something trivial like maybe if it had been Platinum rated instead of Gold rated then it possibly would have been rated a 10 out 10 and I could have saved 11 cents a month on my power bill.
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#338
lexluthermiester
80-watt Hamster@Valantar rightly pointed out that EVGA explicitly denied it. I'd love to be wrong, and even more pleased if they get back into the game later.
Who's knows though. Anything is possible at this point..
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#339
mama
I think it's clear that EVGA are acting under a no competition clause with Nvidia. Hence their strenuous denials of not going to AMD or Intel. I expect they'll have to do this for at least a year (which is a reasonable time) before jumping back into the game with someone else. It might also explain why they say they want to keep their employees on.
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#340
lexluthermiester
mamaI think it's clear that EVGA are acting under a no competition clause with Nvidia.
No. If they ditched NVidia, any contractual "no competition" clauses go right out the window.
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#341
maxfly
64KGoing from a 9.9/10 to a 10/10 would be something trivial like maybe if it had been Platinum rated instead of Gold rated then it possibly would have been rated a 10 out 10 and I could have saved 11 cents a month on my power bill.
To be fair, I don't think JG ever gave a psu a 10 of 10, that I recall...that ain't sayin much but anyhow. Hahaha
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#342
R0H1T
I think he did, probably Corsair Ax1600i or something titanium rated?

I remember the first Corsair AXxxx batch to be the highest rated & most efficient PSU I saw at the time across multiple sites, so that might be the one.
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#343
kapone32
During the pandemic you could buy a card directly from Nvidia. If Nvidia was selling their cards cheaper than EVGA that would suck if they asked them to adjust and were told to pound sand. What is the warranty term for retailers that sell GPUs? A really serious customer could buy and return a card as the prices fall every week. It is not outside the realm of possibility that a combination of those 2 factors and more could be the reason that EVGA has left what they have been known for. The one for me though is GPU prices are about to have a huge correction and prices have not (or cannot ) come down as much as they should so it may just be a fire sale will ruin Nvidia's you have to PAY to play philosiphy.
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#344
Ravenas
I find it interesting that the door has been left open to returning to Nvidia GPU manufacturing, just not this generation.

It's also interesting that while they have said they have no plans to partner with AMD or Intel, they have explicitly said they won't be.

I find it hard to believe they aren't going to replace 50% to 75% of their revenue stream (GPU manufacturing) with Nvidia again in future generations, or with AMD or Intel.

On a side note, I do like EVGA, I use the Z20/X20 and I have a couple of their PSUs. With that being said, I hope they don't disappear from the market.

I can see why EVGA is mad:
  • Founders edition cards cheaper than their own. Partners unable to compete with Nvidia.
    • Nvidia has first hand knowledge of drivers.
    • Nvidia has first hand knowledge of chipset.
  • Nvidia not providing information to partners prior to launch regarding pricing of chipset.
  • Nvidia not providing drivers to partners prior to launch.
  • Nvidia charging EVGA marketing fee kickbacks to pay retailers, while putting their own product on the shelf and not being subjected to the same pricing.
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#345
freeagent
Those Founders cards look pretty wimpy. They look like a boutique product that won't last the test of time, though they are probably fine, I am sure. Except the disassembly. Then you look at something from EVGA and you think damn that is a serious piece of tech. Then you feel the weight, its rigidity, and you think dam that is nice. Mmm. Someone posted that 3080Ti shot, that is a purty card, I would touch it inappropriately.

Edit:

Got a little carried away :D
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#347
R-T-B
freeagentThose Founders cards look pretty wimpy. They look like a boutique product that won't last the test of time, though they are probably fine, I am sure. Except the disassembly. Then you look at something from EVGA and you think damn that is a serious piece of tech. Then you feel the weight, its rigidity, and you think dam that is nice. Mmm. Someone posted that 3080Ti shot, that is a purty card, I would touch it inappropriately.

Edit:

Got a little carried away :D
It's ok, no judgement zone here.
lexluthermiesterEasy, Tiger...
Haters gonna hate.
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#348
AsRock
TPU addict
FluffmeisterYeah enough with the brand hate, it's a two horse race ladies, stop pretending to care about EVGA when most of you wouldn't touch them with a barge pole because they were Nvidia only.

Your hatred of Nvidia doomed EVGA, well done.
nVidia don't need people to doom them, there going a good job on their own. Stop putting words on peoples mouths, just because people have a reason to like one brand\range over some other for many reasons.

And i would of got more eVGA cards over the years but apparently they were not allowed to sell them because of nVidia. Ooh XFX comes to mind.
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#349
ixi
wheresmycar

Oh well... i guess we'll have to look at other options now.
Scrub off of your current gpu numbers on side - 3080 and with something sharp make 4080.
AsRockAnd i would of got more eVGA cards over the years but apparently they were not allowed to sell them because of nVidia. Ooh XFX comes to mind.
AsRock doesn't support own gpu's, there is something we don't know?
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#350
cvaldes
kapone32During the pandemic you could buy a card directly from Nvidia.
It depends on the market. Here in the USA, Nvidia's Founder Edition card retail sales for the GeForce 30 series (Ampere generation) were exclusively handled by Best Buy. You could not buy them directly from Nvidia nor any other retailer.

At least in the USA, Nvidia did not offer any direct-to-consumer sales, Founders Edition or AIB partner models.
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