Wednesday, September 21st 2022

EVGA Announces Cancelation of NVIDIA Next-gen Graphics Cards Plans, Officially Terminates NVIDIA Partnership

Towards the latter half of August, multiple EVGA employees involved in technical marketing and engineering had let us know privately that they were leaving the company for other ventures. When pushed further, several hinted towards some decisions being made by EVGA's management, including CEO Andrew Han, that would jeopardize their future. Some even went far enough to say they would share more in a few weeks time about how they felt exactly about their time there, the various issues that kept them from doing their best, and also that at least a couple of ex-employees were let go. TechPowerUp was doing due diligence in collecting the facts while keeping emotions aside from contacts who were understandably not in the best of moods, and one thing common across the board was there was something major coming up dealing with the EVGA GPU product line.

Today EVGA decided to throw a massive curve ball by formally announcing the company is canceling its plans to carry the next generation of graphics cards. Given EVGA's revenue sheets point to nearly 80% contribution from being an NVIDIA add-in card partner, this effectively also means an end to a long partnership with NVIDIA. The company's CEO confirmed as much to a few media channels citing poor margins and a challenging, stressful relationship that was no longer fruitful. There are no plans for EVGA to partner with AMD or Intel at this time when it comes to graphics cards and the company stressed they will continue to sell and support current-gen GPUs having retained enough units for RMA purposes too.
Jon Peddie Research also speculates EVGA is going to shift its priorities towards power supplies and motherboards instead that allow for higher margins and a more uniform, predictable sales pattern. Time will tell how EVGA, and indeed NVIDIA too who now has to re-distribute its GPU allocation among other partners and retail solutions, will come out of this split. It certainly does not seem to be an amicable one and we do not expect the partnership to resume anytime soon. This also affects companies who were no doubt planning on accessories for EVGA-branded GPUs, such as custom watercooling blocks from the usual suspects such as EKWB, Alphacool, and Bitspower.
What About Existing Customers
All existing owners of EVGA graphics cards will remain fully covered by warranties, including full replacements if needed. The company has withheld inventory of EVGA graphics cards from retailers (and will probably recall some perfectly-functional cards), so it has buffer stock to serve existing customers in need of total replacements or RMA.

What EVGA's Future Looks Like
EVGA CEO Andrew Han stated that the company has no plans as of now to partner with another GPU manufacturer like AMD or Intel, and the exit from the graphics card business will trigger an "imminent downsizing" of the company (to shed employees associated with the graphics card business). This could also be a subtle hint to AMD and Intel that if they're looking to work with EVGA, they should express interest right now.

Graphics cards made up over three-quarters of EVGA's revenue, and so we're not sure what the company could do next. If one were to speculate, the company could increase its presence in the prebuilt notebook and gaming peripherals businesses, and probably even ride the growth-cycle in the power-supply market with ATX 3.0 and PCIe Gen 5. Next-generation high-end graphics cards are expected to trigger upgrades among those with PSUs 4 years or older, as older PSUs, particularly mainstream ones, will find it hard to deal with the power excursions (spikes) of high-end PCIe Gen 5 graphics cards. The company could also retain its PCB engineering team to further develop its motherboard business. But all these are just speculation. Unless EVGA significantly invests in its other businesses, it's done.

How does this affect NVIDIA in the North American market?
EVGA was particularly popular in the North American market, among DIY PC enthusiasts. Other NVIDIA partners such as ASUS, could attempt to fill its void, but the distinct industrial design of EVGA will be lost, as would features such as iCX; and EVGA-exclusive customer programs such as trade-in upgrades. NVIDIA may also attempt to bring in new partners to the North American market to fill EVGA's void, such as GALAX (Galaxy), or Colorful, which are both major graphics card OEMs in the Chinese market. It will now fall on them to match the design and quality standards EVGA established. EVGA's exit will have minimal impact on NVIDIA's bottom-line, as those in the market for a GeForce graphics card will ultimately buy one from whichever brand.

NVIDIA's first reaction to this development is as follows:
"We've had a great partnership with EVGA over the years and will continue to support them on our current generation of products. We wish Andrew and our friends at EVGA all the best."
EVGA's full statement is as follows:
EVGA CEO Andrew HanEVGA has terminated its relationship with NVIDIA. EVGA will no longer be manufacturing video cards of any type, citing a souring relationship with NVIDIA as the cause (among other reasons that were minimized). EVGA will not be exploring relationships with AMD or Intel at this time, and the company will be downsizing imminently as it exits the video card market. Customers will still be covered by EVGA policies, but EVGA will no longer make RTX or other video cards. The company already made, 20 EVT samples of EVGA RTX 4090 FTW3 cards, but will not be moving to production and has killed all active projects pertaining to cards, including KINGPIN cards.
According to JPR, EVGA was the best-selling NVIDIA AIB in the US market, with a market-share of nearly 40%. NVIDIA would have lead its board partners to take its place.

Update Sep 21st: KINGPIN, a long time associate of EVGA, behind some of their fastest boutique graphics cards and motherboards, posted a note of gratitude for all the fans of EVGA + KINGPIN, and stated that KINGPIN Hardware may continue in some form.
I'm thankful for all the industry friends, old colleagues, etc. that reached out. It means a lot and I appreciate it. The news isn't received well ofc, and I'm mostly sorry for the fans and people that are passionate for our brand and everything that we have done here over the years at EVGA. If the KP hardware is meant to continue on in one way or another, I'm sure that it will :). The EVGA and PC hardware enthusiast community have been great to me and my teams here over the years, THANK YOU.
Update Sep 21st: Jensen Huang responded to a question about his thoughts on EVGA in a Q&A session today:
Jensen HuangYou know, Andrew (EVGA CEO) wanted to wind down the business, and he's wanted to do that for a couple of years. Andrew and EVGA were, are great partners and we're great partners, and I'm sad to see them leave the market. But, he's got other plans and he's been thinking about it for several years, so I guess that's about it. The market has a lot of great players and it will be served well after EVGA, but I'll always miss them, they were an important part of our history, Andrew is a great friend. I think that it was just time for him to go do something else."
Sources: Jon Peddie Research, Gamers Nexus, EVGA, Tae Kim (Twitter)
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536 Comments on EVGA Announces Cancelation of NVIDIA Next-gen Graphics Cards Plans, Officially Terminates NVIDIA Partnership

#251
Bomby569
Vayra86Was the partnership poisoned then? We don't know that.
according to their CEO it seems so, they tried many times to talk to them he said.
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#252
lexluthermiester
R-T-BAny advice on a good partner nvidia side?
I'm with you there. Gonna have to sort it out myself. PNY and Galax are on my current shortlist. Them and EVGA are who I currently buy from so the loss of EVGA means I'm going to have to source a third. I'll tell you who's not going to be on that list, Gigabyte and MSI. They can eat poo for the moment.
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#253
Vayra86
Bomby569according to their CEO it seems so, they tried many times to talk to them he said.
Usually the truth is somewhere in the middle, in the business sense.

EVGA was doing a very long term warranty, pushed high bin and premium chips, etc. Maybe they covered a niche that was killing margins? Maybe, their niche was getting priced out of the market by competition, or they see an impending collapse because of inflation and perhaps recession? And alongside all of that, they've been having several screw ups in the past few generations, have redesigned coolers several times. All I see with EVGA is high cost with little payoff. Its not like they gained share as an AIB in the meantime. Its also no secret Asia does things cheaper.

And I didn't even mention the impact of mining, its bad for stable business and we know Nvidia can walk away smiling.
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#254
R-T-B
lexluthermiesterI'm with you there. Gonna have to sort it out myself. PNY and Galax are on my current shortlist. Them and EVGA are who currently buy from so loss of EVGA means I'm going to have to source a third. I'll tell you who's not going to be on that list, Gigabyte and MSI. They can eat poo for the moment.
Pretty much where I am, except I don't know much about GALAX. May have to take a look. PNY I have owned in the past though and they are better than their subdued cooler design would suggest. Good cards.
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#255
thesmokingman
MakaveliThings like this are shedding a light on the type of company NV is and the same reason Microsoft ditched them yet so many people blindy follow...
NV also just lost one of the biggest players left in the autnomous vehicle market. There's six players besides the giant Tesla whom already dumped Nvidia wholesale so now with GM's Cruise doing the same and moving on. It's gonna signal the rest of the players cuz they are like really fkn far behind Tesla... Is it the chips or the brains... seems Cruise is thinking its the chips! Bad sign for the biggest aholes in the room Nvidia.
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#256
oxrufiioxo
Anyone who thinks Nvidia will sell less gpus becuase of this is smoking some good $h!+. All the allocation that was going to Evga will just end up with other AIB. The only thing this does is make it easier to buy a Aorus, Strix, Gaming X trio, or Founders edition model etc.
R-T-BPretty much where I am, except I don't know much about GALAX. May have to take a look. PNY I have owned in the past though and they are better than their subdued cooler design would suggest. Good cards.
The only PNY card I've ever messed around with was a 3090 XLR8 the cooler was so bad the 3080 Suprim and FTW3 card I built systems with were both faster in Timespy. Could have just been a one off but we repasted it multiple times and couldn't get it to perform like a typical 3090.

It sold on ebay for $2800 though so it served a purpose I guess.
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#257
R-T-B
oxrufiioxoThe only PNY card I've ever messed around with was a 3090 XLR8 the cooler was so bad the 3080 Suprim and FTW3 card I built systems with were both faster in Timespy. Could have just been a one off but we repasted it multiple times and couldn't get it to perform like a typical 3090.

It sold on ebay for $2800 though so it served a purpose I guess.
Well the last one I dealt with was pascal era, but they are more "quality board, average cooler" in my (limited) experience. In an ideal world I wish they had both good cooling and reliable boards, but meh. We are running short on good options thats for sure.
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#258
Colddecked
Vayra86Usually the truth is somewhere in the middle, in the business sense.

EVGA was doing a very long term warranty, pushed high bin and premium chips, etc. Maybe they covered a niche that was killing margins? Maybe, their niche was getting priced out of the market by competition, or they see an impending collapse because of inflation and perhaps recession? And alongside all of that, they've been having several screw ups in the past few generations, have redesigned coolers several times. All I see with EVGA is high cost with little payoff. Its not like they gained share as an AIB in the meantime. Its also no secret Asia does things cheaper.

And I didn't even mention the impact of mining, its bad for stable business and we know Nvidia can walk away smiling.
Everything you said is true. The straw that broke the camels back is Nvidia's Founder Edition cards being sold out of Best Buy. At msrp there's no way AIBs can compete, they're literally fighting over scraps. They should've just had a reference design that they gave to their partners, but they want the whole freaking pie.
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#259
ixi
ShrimpBrimeOh baby, my GTX 980 KPE just lifted easily 400$ in value!!

Thank you EVGA!!!
Does the shirt come with gpu as well as buying new gpu?
ColddeckedEverything you said is true. The straw that broke the camels back is Nvidia's Founder Edition cards being sold out of Best Buy. At msrp there's no way AIBs can compete, they're literally fighting over scraps. They should've just had a reference design that they gave to their partners, but they want the whole freaking pie.
Yeah, intel and amd come on. There were two new gpu brands from Asian side as well, but havent heard anything new. :{
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#260
lexluthermiester
R-T-BPretty much where I am, except I don't know much about GALAX. May have to take a look. PNY I have owned in the past though and they are better than their subdued cooler design would suggest. Good cards.
Palit is another solid brand, but they don't sell much in North America.
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#261
Denver
oxrufiioxoAnyone who thinks Nvidia will sell less gpus becuase of this is smoking some good $h!+. All the allocation that was going to Evga will just end up with other AIB. The only thing this does is make it easier to buy a Aorus, Strix, Gaming X trio, or Founders edition model etc.



The only PNY card I've ever messed around with was a 3090 XLR8 the cooler was so bad the 3080 Suprim and FTW3 card I built systems with were both faster in Timespy. Could have just been a one off but we repasted it multiple times and couldn't get it to perform like a typical 3090.

It sold on ebay for $2800 though so it served a purpose I guess.
I not only think, but I'm sure that Nvidia will sell considerably less GPUs, not only for treating AIB partners like garbage but for the end of mining, and also because of the global crisis among other things.
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#262
Unregistered
ixiDoes the shirt come with gpu as well as buying new gpu?
Used sweaty shirt additional 45$ plus shipping.
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#263
AsRock
TPU addict
TheoneandonlyMrKRead some shit in my time, now Evga should have diversified, what into motherboard, PSU , keyboards and mice, they have.
AMD cards they couldn't do because Huang said so.

Oh and Nvidia bought the chips, do you think they sold them on at cost, of f£##ng course not.

They had ample lead time, and a BOM cost advantage And set the price on a whim, Ass hattery.
And have a name change too while at it, maybe ePsU.. HAHAHAHA
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#264
maxfly
Don't get it twisted. Ngreedia will sell everything they truck over to BB. Founders Edition cards will sell juuust fine, like they always have. Ngreedia will make out like the greedy asshats they are. While they happily undercut their partners when sales are at their most coveted, during the release quarter. Great guy to do business with that leather jacket knucklehead eh?

Something that hasn't been talked about at all is what exactly the EVGA employees had to say about all of this when they spoke to TPU? All of this speculation is getting repetitive as hell. I'm dieing to find out what the legitimate information is.
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#265
Totally
64KThis news was just totally unexpected and came right out of the blue for me.
I'm not surprised this is the conclusion everytime there's a disruption in the gpu space. Nvidia plays favorites and one of their 'partners' gets left out in the cold, xfx, bfg, and after playing second fiddle to direct sales miners they reached the end of the line. With mining now in decline nvidia miraculously all a sudden has a bunch of gpus to sell them.
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#266
sLowEnd
pavleInteresting, but not so surprising; nvidia has been toxic to their customers way too many times throughout the years and no wonder - to their partners too.
nvidia seems to be going the 3dfx way slowly, but surely. Perhaps we shall see the day they close down in shame, like 3dfx did. Rejoice for eVGA for having the character to end being intoxicated.
Not at all. 3DFX's situation was very different to Nvidia's current situation. Nvidia has diversified into a very successful (i.e. Almost $4 billion according to their latest investor report) data center market and a few other ones like auto, so it's very doubtful they will be in any financial trouble for the foreseeable future.
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#267
chrcoluk
Might help EU supply given EVGA stock share was so imbalanced in USA favour. Hopefully their allocation goes to partners with better worldwide spread now.
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#268
SOAREVERSOR
What most don't get is computers are all going to be SOC or APU situations. Dedicated cards are going to be cloud only items. That is the future and it's not really going to be changed. It's when, not if.
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#269
xmanrigger
AnymalTheir graphics cards were constantly lagging behind Msi and Asus solutions, sometimes even behind Gigabyte and Palit.
LOLOLOLOL! Thanks for the laugh. You made my day! Got anything more funny?
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#270
SpittinFax
Nvidia stocks are going up regardless. Great investment opportunity.



Just kidding! Stock prices have been dropping for the last year. Peaked at US$330 in late 2021.

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#271
defaultluser
SOAREVERSORWhat most don't get is computers are all going to be SOC or APU situations. Dedicated cards are going to be cloud only items. That is the future and it's not really going to be changed. It's when, not if.
Well obviously, we will se a return to this trend soon:; but its not like its happening tomorrow


cutting off your nose to spite your face preemptively when there's still plenty of demand for the gargantuan 4090 seems kinda self-destructive? they seem to have no problem continuing to ship top-end motherboards (and those must make bank, or they would have cancelled it years ago) so why not concentrate on top end video cards with only hybrid water here?)

that's a lot of revenue to lose overnight
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#272
64K
xmanriggerLOLOLOLOL! Thanks for the laugh. You made my day! Got anything more funny?
You've had your account here for almost 12 years and this is your first post. Hope to see you post more friend. :)
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#273
R-T-B
I'd just like it if we left the brand hate at the door, whatever the reason.
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#274
Fluffmeister
Yeah enough with the brand hate, it's a two horse race ladies, stop pretending to care about EVGA when most of you wouldn't touch them with a barge pole because they were Nvidia only.

Your hatred of Nvidia doomed EVGA, well done.
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#275
The Von Matrices
defaultlusercutting off your nose to spite your face preemptively when there's still plenty of demand for the gargantuan 4090 seems kinda self-destructive? they seem to have no problem continuing to ship top-end motherboards (and those must make bank, or they would have cancelled it years ago) so why not concentrate on top end video cards with only hybrid water here?)
They can't just buy only top end GPUs from NVIDIA, they have to sell the entire range or else NVIDIA won't provide them with chips. Also, binning GPUs to sell super premium Kingpin editions also means you end up with a lot of GPUs that can't run much faster than stock and have to be sold at bargain prices.
defaultluserthat's a lot of revenue to lose overnight
Who cares about revenue if there's no profit to be made?
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