Wednesday, September 21st 2022

EVGA Announces Cancelation of NVIDIA Next-gen Graphics Cards Plans, Officially Terminates NVIDIA Partnership

Towards the latter half of August, multiple EVGA employees involved in technical marketing and engineering had let us know privately that they were leaving the company for other ventures. When pushed further, several hinted towards some decisions being made by EVGA's management, including CEO Andrew Han, that would jeopardize their future. Some even went far enough to say they would share more in a few weeks time about how they felt exactly about their time there, the various issues that kept them from doing their best, and also that at least a couple of ex-employees were let go. TechPowerUp was doing due diligence in collecting the facts while keeping emotions aside from contacts who were understandably not in the best of moods, and one thing common across the board was there was something major coming up dealing with the EVGA GPU product line.

Today EVGA decided to throw a massive curve ball by formally announcing the company is canceling its plans to carry the next generation of graphics cards. Given EVGA's revenue sheets point to nearly 80% contribution from being an NVIDIA add-in card partner, this effectively also means an end to a long partnership with NVIDIA. The company's CEO confirmed as much to a few media channels citing poor margins and a challenging, stressful relationship that was no longer fruitful. There are no plans for EVGA to partner with AMD or Intel at this time when it comes to graphics cards and the company stressed they will continue to sell and support current-gen GPUs having retained enough units for RMA purposes too.
Jon Peddie Research also speculates EVGA is going to shift its priorities towards power supplies and motherboards instead that allow for higher margins and a more uniform, predictable sales pattern. Time will tell how EVGA, and indeed NVIDIA too who now has to re-distribute its GPU allocation among other partners and retail solutions, will come out of this split. It certainly does not seem to be an amicable one and we do not expect the partnership to resume anytime soon. This also affects companies who were no doubt planning on accessories for EVGA-branded GPUs, such as custom watercooling blocks from the usual suspects such as EKWB, Alphacool, and Bitspower.
What About Existing Customers
All existing owners of EVGA graphics cards will remain fully covered by warranties, including full replacements if needed. The company has withheld inventory of EVGA graphics cards from retailers (and will probably recall some perfectly-functional cards), so it has buffer stock to serve existing customers in need of total replacements or RMA.

What EVGA's Future Looks Like
EVGA CEO Andrew Han stated that the company has no plans as of now to partner with another GPU manufacturer like AMD or Intel, and the exit from the graphics card business will trigger an "imminent downsizing" of the company (to shed employees associated with the graphics card business). This could also be a subtle hint to AMD and Intel that if they're looking to work with EVGA, they should express interest right now.

Graphics cards made up over three-quarters of EVGA's revenue, and so we're not sure what the company could do next. If one were to speculate, the company could increase its presence in the prebuilt notebook and gaming peripherals businesses, and probably even ride the growth-cycle in the power-supply market with ATX 3.0 and PCIe Gen 5. Next-generation high-end graphics cards are expected to trigger upgrades among those with PSUs 4 years or older, as older PSUs, particularly mainstream ones, will find it hard to deal with the power excursions (spikes) of high-end PCIe Gen 5 graphics cards. The company could also retain its PCB engineering team to further develop its motherboard business. But all these are just speculation. Unless EVGA significantly invests in its other businesses, it's done.

How does this affect NVIDIA in the North American market?
EVGA was particularly popular in the North American market, among DIY PC enthusiasts. Other NVIDIA partners such as ASUS, could attempt to fill its void, but the distinct industrial design of EVGA will be lost, as would features such as iCX; and EVGA-exclusive customer programs such as trade-in upgrades. NVIDIA may also attempt to bring in new partners to the North American market to fill EVGA's void, such as GALAX (Galaxy), or Colorful, which are both major graphics card OEMs in the Chinese market. It will now fall on them to match the design and quality standards EVGA established. EVGA's exit will have minimal impact on NVIDIA's bottom-line, as those in the market for a GeForce graphics card will ultimately buy one from whichever brand.

NVIDIA's first reaction to this development is as follows:
"We've had a great partnership with EVGA over the years and will continue to support them on our current generation of products. We wish Andrew and our friends at EVGA all the best."
EVGA's full statement is as follows:
EVGA CEO Andrew HanEVGA has terminated its relationship with NVIDIA. EVGA will no longer be manufacturing video cards of any type, citing a souring relationship with NVIDIA as the cause (among other reasons that were minimized). EVGA will not be exploring relationships with AMD or Intel at this time, and the company will be downsizing imminently as it exits the video card market. Customers will still be covered by EVGA policies, but EVGA will no longer make RTX or other video cards. The company already made, 20 EVT samples of EVGA RTX 4090 FTW3 cards, but will not be moving to production and has killed all active projects pertaining to cards, including KINGPIN cards.
According to JPR, EVGA was the best-selling NVIDIA AIB in the US market, with a market-share of nearly 40%. NVIDIA would have lead its board partners to take its place.

Update Sep 21st: KINGPIN, a long time associate of EVGA, behind some of their fastest boutique graphics cards and motherboards, posted a note of gratitude for all the fans of EVGA + KINGPIN, and stated that KINGPIN Hardware may continue in some form.
I'm thankful for all the industry friends, old colleagues, etc. that reached out. It means a lot and I appreciate it. The news isn't received well ofc, and I'm mostly sorry for the fans and people that are passionate for our brand and everything that we have done here over the years at EVGA. If the KP hardware is meant to continue on in one way or another, I'm sure that it will :). The EVGA and PC hardware enthusiast community have been great to me and my teams here over the years, THANK YOU.
Update Sep 21st: Jensen Huang responded to a question about his thoughts on EVGA in a Q&A session today:
Jensen HuangYou know, Andrew (EVGA CEO) wanted to wind down the business, and he's wanted to do that for a couple of years. Andrew and EVGA were, are great partners and we're great partners, and I'm sad to see them leave the market. But, he's got other plans and he's been thinking about it for several years, so I guess that's about it. The market has a lot of great players and it will be served well after EVGA, but I'll always miss them, they were an important part of our history, Andrew is a great friend. I think that it was just time for him to go do something else."
Sources: Jon Peddie Research, Gamers Nexus, EVGA, Tae Kim (Twitter)
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536 Comments on EVGA Announces Cancelation of NVIDIA Next-gen Graphics Cards Plans, Officially Terminates NVIDIA Partnership

#26
igralec84
My 3080 Ti has extended warranty until 2026. Will i get a Radeon 9950XT in 2025 if it dies? o_O

EDIT: guess not lol
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#27
Tomorrow
Suprising. Also their statement of not downsizing and not closing doors is biazarre considering they are losing 80% of their revenue.
This better not be a blackmail situation where EVGA puts public pressure on Nvidia to get preferential treatment to continue operating.
The fact that they flat out deny going to AMD or Intel kinda hints at that.
Personally if find it stupid not to go AMD atleast.

Tho their GPU quality has suffered on 10, 20 and 30 series trough various issues that other AIB's did not have or did not have to the same degree:
10 series 1080 thermal pad issues.
20 series 2080 Ti space invaders.
30 series power draw issues in New World etc.
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#28
DeathtoGnomes
Here is a guess. The has to do with GPU prices since they are crashing.
  1. EVGA payed higher base prices to Nvidia during the shortage.
  2. As GPU prices continue to drop, EVGA card stock is worth less than when they originally paid to fill the warehouses during the shortage.
  3. Nvidia will not give EVGA a break on the cards they do have in stock.
  4. Without the adjustment from Nvidia, EVGA will lose their ass on current stock.
  5. Ngreddia said tough luck, thats the price of doing business.
  6. EVGA now pissed off brings us here.
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#29
MentalAcetylide
Damn, wasn't expecting this. I'm really enjoying their Kingpin 3090 card & its cooling capability. Well, I'm guessing one of three things can happen.
#1. EVGA had something planned for a while now to mitigate this exiting of the GPU market and they will succeed if they play their cards(no pun intended) right.
#2. EVGA will steadily decline into mediocrity, like 3DFX(remember their voodoo cards?), and be bought out by someone else or dissipate into nothingness.
#3. Their CEO is making a big mistake & ends up getting replaced because of unhappy shareholders in the company?

Personally, I think they're making a big mistake doing this right now and their employees are going to end up getting the crappy end of the stick. They like to say they're going to take care of their employees, but that's usually corporate talk meaning they will give them a piece of candy on the way through the door of unemployment. :shadedshu:
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#30
ixi
EVGA gpu app still in alfa or beta? :D

Sad to see big player go, at least for now. AMD and Intel to come?
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#31
RedBear
Voodoo RufusProblem is, power supplies can last a user 10 years or more. Probably low margins as well.
Well, PSUs are going to last less time now, if each generation the power requirements will increase significantly and PCI-SIG says that adapters will catch fire. They can thank Nvidia for that. ;)

EVGA aside, it's going to be interesting to find out in the next months whether this is a systemic crisis or it's just EVGA mishandling something and making up excuses. Given the size of EVGA I would favour the former option, but who knows.
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#33
taka
Dirt ChipBFG all over again...
Hey i loved my BFG cards and always wonder what happened to them........


That was my favorite.
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#34
RandallFlagg
Hmm...

-EVGA had 40% of the North American GPU AIB market.
-Well-founded rumor was that 4000 series GPUs have been sitting in warehouses since early August, waiting for Nvidia to officially release
-Well-founded rumor also had that the 4070 was going to have an MSRP of $599, a $100 increase over the MSRP of the 3070
-Crypto market collapse just went into overdrive with some kind of consolidation of Eth mining along with hefty electricity inflation (not just in Europe, but mostly there) that apparently has made mining unprofitable on all but the most efficient GPUs (ironically, mostly AMDs like the 6600) - this will likely lead to an truly massive glut on 2nd hand market in short order (days)
-Gaming market collapsed by > 20% last quarter, so it is unlikely to absorb the extra cards

It kind of sounds to me like Nvidia may not have been willing to lower prices on new GPUs, nor help discount old GPUs.

All these things together would make a perfect storm sort of scenario where a company like EVGA simply cannot make a profit selling these cards.
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#35
Hanger
EK/Alphacool: "THANK GOD! That's one less brand we have to make waterblocks for."
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#36
ModEl4
Sad, I hope they partner up with AMD or Intel in the future.
Another possible additional reason is that they made some money in the previous 2 years due to the price inflation in the GPU market and maybe now they concluded that they don't want to use from that capital, bleeding it essentially to further fund the difficult GPU business period that we are entering.
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#37
MentalAcetylide
RandallFlaggHmm...

-EVGA had 40% of the North American GPU AIB market.
-Well-founded rumor was that 4000 series GPUs have been sitting in warehouses since early August, waiting for Nvidia to officially release
-Well-founded rumor also had that the 4070 was going to have an MSRP of $599, a $100 increase over the MSRP of the 3070
-Crypto market collapse just went into overdrive with some kind of consolidation of Eth mining along with hefty electricity inflation (not just in Europe, but mostly there) that apparently has made mining unprofitable on all but the most efficient GPUs (ironically, mostly AMDs like the 6600) - this will likely lead to an truly massive glut on 2nd hand market in short order (days)
-Gaming market collapsed by > 20% last quarter, so it is unlikely to absorb the extra cards

It kind of sounds to me like Nvidia may not have been willing to lower prices on new GPUs, nor help discount old GPUs.

All these things together would make a perfect storm sort of scenario where a company like EVGA simply cannot make a profit selling these cards.
Its beginning to sound like a case of a large multi-billion dollar company just wanting to shit on its partners in order to keep profits up for its share holders. Nevertheless, I still think EVGA might be making a mistake. The fact of the matter is their cards are more expensive because they're taking something that NVidia manufactures & making it better in regards to performance & cooling. NVidia is just being an obtuse business "partner" and doesn't want to have anything to do with shouldering any of that cost. As a result, EVGA won't be able to profit enough from it in the current economic situation.
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#38
openbox1980
TomorrowSuprising. Also their statement of not downsizing and not closing doors is biazarre considering they are losing 80% of their revenue.
This better not be a blackmail situation where EVGA puts public pressure on Nvidia to get preferential treatment to continue operating.
The fact that they flat out deny going to AMD or Intel kinda hints at that.
Personally if find it stupid not to go AMD atleast.

Tho their GPU quality has suffered on 10, 20 and 30 series trough various issues that other AIB's did not have or did not have to the same degree:
10 series 1080 thermal pad issues.
20 series 2080 Ti space invaders.
30 series power draw issues in New World etc.
When I was selling computer parts, the EVGA 2080ti black edition was the worst. I had so many returns on that model.
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#39
R-T-B
Voodoo RufusUnless they plan to expand it
Recent Ryzen mobo launch suddenly makes more sense.
RandallFlaggsome kind of consolidation of Eth mining
You mean it utterly ending by going Proof of Stake?
openbox1980When I was selling computer parts, the EVGA 2080ti black edition was the worst. I had so many returns on that model.
It's basically the reference board with a third party cooler, no?
RedBearWell, PSUs are going to last less time now, if each generation the power requirements will increase significantly and PCI-SIG says that adapters will catch fire.
That's not really what the notice says at all. See @jonnyGURU 's postings on this point.
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#40
freeagent
Wow, never had a problem with their cards! Very sad to see them go! Tough sell on their mobos for me though.. had their 680i and it could barely run a Q6600 at stock. I know that was a long time ago, but I paid over 300 for that board way back when, and that was a lot of money. I have a hard time letting go :)
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#41
regs
100% of the card that used to be for years was a poor margin?
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#42
shovenose
I really would love it if they’d partner with Intel Arc. They need a strong AIB partner.
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#43
RedBear
R-T-BThat's not really what the notice says at all. See @jonnyGURU 's postings on this point.
This one? Even after reading it, I'm still left wondering: what does it say then?
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#44
ModEl4
EVGA has terminated its relationship with NVIDIA. EVGA will no longer be manufacturing video cards of any type, citing a souring relationship with NVIDIA as the cause (among other reasons that were minimized). EVGA will not be exploring relationships with AMD or Intel at this time, and the company will be downsizing imminently as it exits the video card market. Customers will still be covered by EVGA policies, but EVGA will no longer make RTX or other video cards. The company already made ~20 EVT samples of EVGA RTX 4090 FTW3 cards, but will not be moving to production and has killed all active projects pertaining to cards — including KINGPIN cards.

Andrew Han, CEO of EVGA
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#45
VSG
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ModEl4CEO's statement:
EVGA has terminated its relationship with NVIDIA. EVGA will no longer be manufacturing video cards of any type, citing a souring relationship with NVIDIA as the cause (among other reasons that were minimized). EVGA will not be exploring relationships with AMD or Intel at this time, and the company will be downsizing imminently as it exits the video card market. Customers will still be covered by EVGA policies, but EVGA will no longer make RTX or other video cards. The company already made ~20 EVT samples of EVGA RTX 4090 FTW3 cards, but will not be moving to production and has killed all active projects pertaining to cards — including KINGPIN cards.

— Andrew Han, CEO of EVGA
Source?
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#46
Minus Infinity
Not surprising really. The way Ngreedia screwed over it's AIB partners with pricing and margins has left most of them fuming. Someone has finally had a gutful of Huang's mercenary tactics.
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#47
mama
The comments about the quality of the EVGA cards seem off point. You don't get such a sizeable proportion of the market over a long period if the quality/value isn't there.

Gamer's Nexus seems to suggest the decision is more of a personal one for the CEO who wants to "spend more time with family". That doesn't ring true to me. Every failed politician says they "want to spend more time with their family". It's just a boiler plate excuse to mask the true reason or reasons.
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#49
ZoneDymo
shovenoseI really would love it if they’d partner with Intel Arc. They need a strong AIB partner.
Yeah them partnering with Intel would be pretty fantastic, they can pick the rules for both companies so they have a position of power unlike with Ngreedia and Intel will get a strong established quality name for their new cards, it would be Win/Win.

Apart from that, man its interesting reading the comments, they feel so emotional and "needing to pick sides"ish
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#50
Chrispy_
Storm's a-brewin'

If you say you didn't see this coming, you're kidding yourself.

As a side-note, does anyone remember why 3DFX died? For the sake of healthy competition that benefits us consumers, let us all hope that Jensen isn't quite that short-sighted or stubborn....
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