Thursday, October 6th 2022

AMD Trims Q3 Forecast, $1 Billion Missing, Client Processor Revenue down 40%, Halved Quarter-over-Quarter

AMD (NASDAQ:AMD) today announced selected preliminary financial results for the third quarter of 2022. Third quarter revenue is expected to be approximately $5.6 billion, an increase of 29% year-over-year. AMD previously expected revenue to increase approximately 55% year-over-year at the mid-point of guidance. Preliminary results reflect lower than expected Client segment revenue resulting from reduced processor shipments due to a weaker than expected PC market and significant inventory correction actions across the PC supply chain.

Revenue for the Data Center, Gaming, and Embedded segments each increased significantly year-over-year in-line with the company's expectations. Gross margin is expected to be approximately 42% and non-GAAP(*) gross margin is expected to be approximately 50%. AMD previously expected non-GAAP gross margin to be approximately 54%. The gross margin shortfall to expectations was primarily due to lower revenue driven by lower Client processor unit shipments and average selling price (ASP). In addition, the third quarter results are expected to include approximately $160 million of charges primarily for inventory, pricing, and related reserves in the graphics and client businesses.
Third quarter operating expenses are expected to be approximately $2.4 billion and non-GAAP operating expenses are expected to be approximately $1.5 billion. Non-GAAP operating expenses are lower than previous expectations of $1.6 billion driven by lower variable compensation expenses in the quarter.

"The PC market weakened significantly in the quarter," said AMD Chair and CEO Dr. Lisa Su. "While our product portfolio remains very strong, macroeconomic conditions drove lower than expected PC demand and a significant inventory correction across the PC supply chain. As we navigate the current market conditions, we are pleased with the performance of our Data Center, Embedded, and Gaming segments and the strength of our diversified business model and balance sheet. We remain focused on delivering our leadership product roadmap and look forward to launching our next-generation 5 nm data center and graphics products later this quarter."

This update does not present all necessary information for an understanding of AMD's financial condition as of the date of this release, or its results of operations for the third quarter of 2022. As AMD completes its quarter-end financial close process and finalizes its financial statements for the quarter, it will be required to make judgments in a number of areas. It is possible that AMD may identify items that require it to make adjustments to the preliminary financial information set forth above and those adjustments could be material. AMD does not intend to update any financial information prior to release of its final third quarter financial statement information, which is currently scheduled for Nov. 1, 2022.

AMD Q3'22 Earnings Conference Call
AMD will hold a conference call for the financial community at 2:00 p.m. PT (5:00 p.m. ET) on Nov. 1, 2022 to discuss its third quarter 2022 financial results. AMD will provide a real-time audio broadcast of the teleconference on the Investor Relations page of its website at www.amd.com.
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150 Comments on AMD Trims Q3 Forecast, $1 Billion Missing, Client Processor Revenue down 40%, Halved Quarter-over-Quarter

#126
Wirko
wheresmycarDAMN RIGHT!!!

I'm of the same opinion and have been for a while... although you might disagree with the following: i'm over the mooon seeing AMD being hit hard in the revenue department but for the joy to make sense it has to apply to both Intel/Nvidia too, otherwise it sucks! All these hardware throttlers pinching our hard earned dosh need a slap in the face. I've been waiting for a long time for these tech giants to feel the ripples turning into waves with buyer despondency. NVIDIA is always 1st on that list but it seems the pocket-rich continue to grease that self-indulgence war engine.

With power consumption rapidly increasing and small pockets of performance uptick per each generation (gaming), it was obvious these companies were dead set on winning the performance crown at the helm of anything/everything. Like all mightier-than-thou empires, the empirical demise (ok ok overly dramatic) .......ffs, at this point i dont even know where im going with this lol.... erm, in short let them run themselves into the ground i suppose... if its helps lowering prices, introducing less useless embellished feature boards and delivering cost-effective products within the buyers means, i'm all for it!!

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#127
lexluthermiester
Wirko

KEEP
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AS YOU NORMALLY WOULD
I offer a slight alteration.
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#128
R0H1T
Tech NinjaLook at Nvidia results.
What results? Did they also project an earnings meltdown/miss any time recently?
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#129
crazyeyesreaper
Not a Moderator
GunShotSu was asked ~1Q22, doing the worst scalping/mining frenzy in our history - "how is AMD" - her response: "*outstanding* year for AMD with record annual revenue and profitability." Yeah, she had stated that doing a time for many consumers were being gouged by scalpers, hunted by miners, and/or suffering from COVID lockdowns. But, Su thought it was still all "outstanding" even when she knew that many consumers were struggling and hurting.

www.google.com/amp/s/amp.hothardware.com/news/amd-best-year-ever-strong-gains-rdna-2-zen-3-sales

Well, there is a happy ending after all, and Su is now concerned.

Reap what you sow!
Keep in mind as a publicly traded company they are literally required by law to put shareholder value first. Even if Su knows its scalping / bad / etc it doesn't really matter because if shes not all in for that to make profits for shareholders she will be seen as a failure and it damages the companies reputation. That is capitalism in a nut shell after all. The most profit at the expense of everything else. It applies to all companies.
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#130
R0H1T
crazyeyesreaperKeep in mind as a publicly traded company they are literally required by law to put shareholder value first.
Actually they're not, I posted this a while back but there's no legal/regulatory mandate for that.
crazyeyesreaperThat is capitalism in a nut shell after all. The most profit at the expense of everything else. It applies to all companies.
Yes greed, except it all applies to all human with varying degrees.
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#131
ARF
crazyeyesreaperKeep in mind as a publicly traded company they are literally required by law to put shareholder value first. Even if Su knows its scalping / bad / etc it doesn't really matter because if shes not all in for that to make profits for shareholders she will be seen as a failure and it damages the companies reputation. That is capitalism in a nut shell after all. The most profit at the expense of everything else. It applies to all companies.
lol, without a deep analysis and actually being able to prove your point, it's just speculation on your part.
Someone else can say that scalping is not only bad but it damages the company reputation because eventually it will lead to lower sales and less value for the shareholders.
You simply don't know, and make wrong decisions based on some empty assumptions.

The truth being told - the shareholder doesn't care about your money, it's more about a psychological damage on the customers and control.
It's like two people define the pricings and these pricings are random, not related to any physical world observation.
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#132
crazyeyesreaper
Not a Moderator
ARFlol, without a deep analysis and actually being able to prove your point, it's just speculation on your part.
Someone else can say that scalping is not only bad but it damages the company reputation because eventually it will lead to lower sales and less value for the shareholders.
You simply don't know, and make wrong decisions based on some empty assumptions.

The truth being told - the shareholder doesn't care about your money, it's more about a psychological damage on the customers and control.
It's like two people define the pricings and these pricings are random, not related to any physical world observation.
You being mad because there scalping has no impact on AMD from an investors point of view. I owned stock in AMD sold it at its peak. Fact is by federal law they have to put shareholders first. Obviously consumer sentiment matters but if they are making mass profits. Shareholders are happy, shareholders being happy = Su is seen a success. The days of AMD being an underdog are as of the last few years is over. Essentially any consumer backlash at the moment is considered trivial. They can get away with this because there is little competition. CPU side for x86 / x64 you have Intel / AMD on the GPU front you have NVIDIA / AMD. If you need a consumer PC and you need a CPU and a Graphics card you basically have two choices. In the grand scheme of things if AMD is competitive on both fronts if all companies are price gouging making record profits. The fact is if AMD did not do that they would then need to deal with a lawsuit brought forward by shareholders. That is literally how it works. To simplify it your damned if you do and damned if you don't but made consumers= minimal compared to mad shareholders. Just an FYI but due to a lack of competition any consumer negativity will have little impact. If Intel isn't competitive your buying an inferior product. If you wont buy AMD GPUs your other option is NVIDIA. Who controls an even greater amount of pricing power. Lol its just markets and business 101.
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#133
wheresmycar
Wirko

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that just went though me like a bad curry
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#134
Wirko
crazyeyesreaperKeep in mind as a publicly traded company they are literally required by law to put shareholder value first. Even if Su knows its scalping / bad / etc it doesn't really matter because if shes not all in for that to make profits for shareholders she will be seen as a failure and it damages the companies reputation. That is capitalism in a nut shell after all. The most profit at the expense of everything else. It applies to all companies.
How can one legally prove that the effect of a certain business decision was less than maximum profit? Business decisions are things like hiring or firing some engineers, raising or lowering product prices, investing more or less in this or that and so on.
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#135
ARF
crazyeyesreaperYou being mad because there scalping has no impact on AMD from an investors point of view. I owned stock in AMD sold it at its peak. Fact is by federal law they have to put shareholders first. Obviously consumer sentiment matters but if they are making mass profits. Shareholders are happy, shareholders being happy = Su is seen a success. The days of AMD being an underdog are as of the last few years is over. Essentially any consumer backlash at the moment is considered trivial. They can get away with this because there is little competition. CPU side for x86 / x64 you have Intel / AMD on the GPU front you have NVIDIA / AMD. If you need a consumer PC and you need a CPU and a Graphics card you basically have two choices. In the grand scheme of things if AMD is competitive on both fronts if all companies are price gouging making record profits. The fact is if AMD did not do that they would then need to deal with a lawsuit brought forward by shareholders. That is literally how it works. To simplify it your damned if you do and damned if you don't but made consumers= minimal compared to mad shareholders. Just an FYI but due to a lack of competition any consumer negativity will have little impact. If Intel isn't competitive your buying an inferior product. If you wont buy AMD GPUs your other option is NVIDIA. Who controls an even greater amount of pricing power. Lol its just markets and business 101.
How exactly do you benefit from AMD been up, running and well? Do you receive any dividends? Or you simply own the shares and the only thing you can do with them is to buy more or sell the ones you have?
A fact is that AMD is losing value, the share price drops, and the company loses money as of now.

Also, there is a third player in the graphics market - Intel.
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#136
crazyeyesreaper
Not a Moderator
ARFHow exactly do you benefit from AMD been up, running and well? Do you receive any dividends? Or you simply own the shares and the only thing you can do with them is to buy more or sell the ones you have?
A fact is that AMD is losing value, the share price drops, and the company loses money as of now.

Also, there is a third player in the graphics market - Intel.
Intel isn't competitive and wont be for sometime. They can't get there first product launch out on time or even reach proper competitive performance in numerous situations. Do I expect that to improve sure. But they are just now launching the Arc lineup and NVIDIA / AMD are about to leap frog them by a sizeable amount. And I bought low and sold high. Making a tidy profit. So when I bought low during pandemic, the price scalping and cash lining AMDs pockets made me a happy investor. Pretty simple really. Sure as a consumer I didn't like the insane prices but. Ill take the good and the bad so to speak.

eventually it will sort itself out but companies do shady shit and consumer sentiment / outrage is lackluster and quickly fades as time in tech and the shit Intel / NVIDIA / and numerous other brands have pulled over the years.
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#137
Valantar
R0H1TActually they're not, I posted this a while back but there's no legal/regulatory mandate for that.
That is simply not true. No, there is no law explicitly requiring them to do so, however current US legal practice and precedent dictates that shareholders can successfully sue for significant damages if company leadership doesn't operate in a way that prioritizes short-term profits and the accompanying shareholder profits.
R0H1TYes greed, except it all applies to all human with varying degrees.
What you're describing is this thing called culture, and it's rather variable. It's entirely possible to not be greedy.
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#138
medi01
I wonder how much of this is caused by people like me going from excited about new product, to, looking at the prices and saying "no, thank you".

YoY figures are quite impressive though.
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#139
r9
Pries are up but the revenue is down ;)
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#140
Shatun_Bear
I'm a big AMD fan but their stock price has been massively inflated for years at this point. Nvidia's is as well as most of the tech sector. But AMD stands out to me as they just don't make nearly as much profit as who they're competing against. Worrying for a long term outlook. Up until last year their quarterly profits were quite pathetic for such a big brand in tech. I saw one quarter they made a profit of something like $125m....Intel were bagging about $5bn....so yeah, margins are still too low, volume is still too low (to truly compete against Intel).

The whole market is going to crash but it'll be a relatively 'slow' crash compared to the last one. If you somehow held on to your AMD stock until now, you should know what to do.
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#141
medi01
64KWith the brunt of the Pandemic over with and people going back to work and the lockdowns relaxing and fears of the world economy going to hell it's not surprising to see a reduction in demand for electronics considered non-essentials.
I don't see how that explains anything, when graphics revenue is up YoY (despite cryptocalipsis)..

The cheapest AM5 CPU, which is only 6 cores, starts at 360 Euro were I live.
8 core 480, 12 core 670, 16 core 850.

Plus more expensive mainboard and RAM. So what gives?
GunShotNVIDIA was two-years-ago. AMD have not / cannot and will not, ever
Hilarious to read that at times when AMD gross margins are bigger than NVs.
(50%, down from 56% vs 46% down from 66% at NV)
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#143
Tsukiyomi91
everyone is suffering because of their incompetence and complacency. Good. Let's see these corpo rats squeal even louder when their "feeders" (aka investors and consumers) stop giving them "food".
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#144
medi01
AM4 platform + 5800X3D (which for majority of AMD users means buying just CPU) is just way too good for insane 7000 series investment to make sense. It is what, around $1k for mobo+CPU+RAM+cooler and for what gains?
Tsukiyomi91suffering because of their incompetence and complacency
Something was messed up in regards of CPU platform specifically.

GPU revenues are up YoY despite crypto-bazinga bust.
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#145
lexluthermiester
Tsukiyomi91everyone is suffering because of their incompetence and complacency.
This financial situation is due to world economic conditions. AMD's staff had no say in it. Claiming they're incompetent only highlights your ignorance of factual information. Or is this a case of brand-bashing? Either way, knock it off.
medi01Something was messed up in regards of CPU platform specifically.
The above goes for you too. There is nothing wrong with AMD's latest CPU lineup.
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