Thursday, November 3rd 2022

AMD Navi 31 RDNA3 GPU Pictured

Here's the first picture of the "Navi 31" GPU at the heart of AMD's fastest next-generation graphics cards. Based on the RDNA3 graphics architecture, this will mark an ambitious attempt by AMD to build the first multi-chip module (MCM) client GPU featuring more than one logic die. MCM GPUs aren't new in the enterprise space with Intel's "Ponte Vecchio," but this would be the first such GPU meant for hardcore gaming graphics products. AMD had made MCM GPUs in the past, but those have been packages with just one logic die, surrounded by memory stacks. "Navi 31" is an MCM of as many as eight logic dies, and no memory stacks (no, those aren't HBM stacks in the picture below).

It's rumored that "Navi 31" features one or two SIMD chiplets dubbed GCDs, featuring the GPU's main number crunching machinery, the RDNA3 compute units. These chiplets are likely built on the most advanced silicon fabrication node, likely TSMC 5 nm EUV, but we'll see. The GDDR6 memory controllers handling the chip's 384-bit wide GDDR6 memory interface, will be located on separate chiplets built on a slightly older node, such as TSMC 6 nm. This is not multi-GPU-a-stick, because both SIMD chiplets have uniform access to the entire 384-bit wide memory bus (which is not 2x 192-bit but 1x 384-bit), besides the other ancillaries. The "Navi 31" MCM are expected to be surrounded by JEDEC-standard 20 Gbps GDDR6 memory chips.
Sources: Angstronomics, VideoCardz
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51 Comments on AMD Navi 31 RDNA3 GPU Pictured

#2
Steevo
Reviews tomorrow?
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#3
Daven
Technically CDNA2 is a MCM as its two dies on the same package.
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#4
medi01
SteevoReviews tomorrow?
Presentation starts in 2.5 hours (21:00 German time)

GPUs are "released in early December".
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#5
Daven
SteevoReviews tomorrow?
Probably not until retail availability in December.
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#6
Dirt Chip
Let AMD have a "ZEN moment" with Radeon (except for the early bios things).
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#7
dj-electric
SteevoReviews tomorrow?
Everyone gets to know it all at once. Seeding is expected to begin sometime later this month
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#8
HD64G
Dirt ChipLet AMD have a "ZEN moment" with Radeon (except for the early bios things).
Zen2 or even 3 most possibly.
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#9
Imsochobo
Dirt ChipLet AMD have a "ZEN moment" with Radeon (except for the early bios things).
isn't rdna1 that, rdna2 a zen2 moment and rdna3 maybe zen3 ?
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#10
ZetZet
Dirt ChipLet AMD have a "ZEN moment" with Radeon (except for the early bios things).
Why is everyone expecting issues with BIOS and drivers, it seems to me that AMD moved only "dumb" components like memory off the main chip, so there shouldn't be that many issues. It's not like these GPUs come with two graphics chiplets.
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#11
kapone32
I can't wait for them to explain how these work. That is a huge BUS size. Even though you say it I can't help but see those chips as HBM chips lol.
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#12
TheinsanegamerN
ZetZetWhy is everyone expecting issues with BIOS and drivers
ZetZetAMD
You answered your own question. AMD couldnt get the BIOS right for their OWN MOTHERBOARDS., multiple times. It's not far fetched to expect instability at launch.
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#13
medi01
Any, picture based, size estimates?
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#15
Canned Noodles
medi01Any, picture based, size estimates?
It looks roughly GPU-sized, perhaps a bit bigger
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#16
ZetZet
TheinsanegamerNYou answered your own question. AMD couldnt get the BIOS right for their OWN MOTHERBOARDS., multiple times. It's not far fetched to expect instability at launch.
But motherboard manufacturers add lots of stuff to the motherboards, it's not like it's all AMD designed. For graphics cards it's almost all reference design, except maybe power delivery, but that's not something software touches.
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#17
Daven
ZetZetBut motherboard manufacturers add lots of stuff to the motherboards, it's not like it's all AMD designed. For graphics cards it's almost all reference design, except maybe power delivery, but that's not something software touches.
This is a common problem amongst value added products. Android for instance is a great OS except for all the third party crap spewed all over it.
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#18
AusWolf
Repasting this will be a nightmare.
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#19
ZetZet
AusWolfRepasting this will be a nightmare.
Good thing it's not something that needs to be done in the meaningful lifetime of the product.
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#20
N/A
AusWolfRepasting this will be a nightmare.
If you look closer the gaps are filled with solid filler for a nice unbroken surface area.
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#21
Darmok N Jalad
The Radeon W6800X Duo in the 2019 Mac Pro connects two GPUs through IF at 84GB/s, and those GPUs are separated on the PCB and each GPU has its own memory. I’d have to imagine the bandwidth connection of GPUs on the same substrate would be much faster, and memory management won’t be divided anymore and cause potential work imbalances. Won’t be long before we get to see how effective this solution is. If nothing else, I’m excited to see something relatively new on the engineering front.
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#22
cvaldes
ZetZetGood thing it's not something that needs to be done in the meaningful lifetime of the product.
It depends on the usage case.

Some people remove the stock cooler and use full length waterblocks for a custom cooling loop. Often people who do so will periodically clean the waterblock which requires removal and disassembly.

For typical users who stick with the stock cooler, there is rarely a need to reapply thermal compound unless cooling performance drops precipitously after time.

I certainly wouldn't buy a graphics card based on the whether or not the GPU package looked like it was conducive to thermal paste application. But apparently it's a big deal for some people online. That's fine: it's their money.
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#24
TheinsanegamerN
ZetZetBut motherboard manufacturers add lots of stuff to the motherboards, it's not like it's all AMD designed. For graphics cards it's almost all reference design, except maybe power delivery, but that's not something software touches.
Much like video card drivers, AGESA code does not come from board makers.

But of course, its never AMD's fault.
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#25
AusWolf
DemonicRyzen666what was the point of this?
just a "die shot"
no preformance numbers?? :confused:
only a 50% increase in prefromance pre watt with no proof to back it up?
Seem like a whole a lot of smoke for nothing.
Just wait a couple of hours. The product will be announced soon.
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