Monday, November 7th 2022

Alibaba Yitian 710 Expelled From SPEC Official Rankings, Committee Cites Lack of General Availability

When Alibaba announced the development of an Armv9-based processor, it claimed to be some of the most performant designs that the company has laid its hand on, claiming to win the SPEC 2017 CPU benchmark and place itself in the top spot for the world record. Reportedly, the Yitian 710 CPU was able to score an integer score of 440 points in SPECint2017, which is comparable to a dual-socket Xeon Platinum 8362 system. The SPEC 2017 benchmark represents an industry-standard suite of tests that have a combination of 43 different test scenarios that measure the performance of a specific processor. Alibaba's Yitian 710 was claiming to possess the performance target where it is the fastest CPU on the leaderboard, with one major flaw. The Chinese company hasn't mentioned this processor's lack of general availability, making its scoreboard efforts invalid.

As Alibaba plans to use its design almost exclusively in-house and maybe offer it to a few partners, the processor is not sold commercially. This is apparently a requirement for the SPEC CPU 2017 benchmark to be completed, so the SPEC committee has overruled the result to make it invalid, stating the following:
SPEC CommitteeSPEC has determined that this result does not comply with the SPEC OSG Guidelines for General Availability and the SPEC CPU 2017 run and reporting rules. Specifically, the submitter has notified SPEC that General Availability requirements were not met.
Source: via Tom's Hardware
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9 Comments on Alibaba Yitian 710 Expelled From SPEC Official Rankings, Committee Cites Lack of General Availability

#1
the54thvoid
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Lol.

Company makes fastest, most superest dooperest chip in the world but nobody is allowed to buy it. I wonder if it's not as good as they say... <s/c>
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#2
thewan
the54thvoidLol.

Company makes fastest, most superest dooperest chip in the world but nobody is allowed to buy it. I wonder if it's not as good as they say... <s/c>
why dont you oh i don't know, read the source news for more info and context and related articles that expand upon why the availability is low?

TLDR for the lazy person above me: its obviously USA sanctions at fault here.
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#3
ArcanisGK507
I assume that to reach that conclusion; They have evaluated that not even the same nationals (Chinese) have access to technology commercially...
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#4
phanbuey
thewanwhy dont you oh i don't know, read the source news for more info and context and related articles that expand upon why the availability is low?

TLDR for the lazy person above me: its obviously USA sanctions at fault here.
Maybe or maybe corruption... hard to say:

Wave of corruption claims crash into China's chip Big Fund • The Register

"The company notes that instances based on Yitian 710 processors offer 100 percent higher efficiency than existing AMD/Intel solutions; however, they don't have any useful data to back it up."

I mean 100 percent higher efficiency than wildly different AMD/intel sounds like something someone made up.
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#5
Totally
the54thvoidLol.

Company makes fastest, most superest dooperest chip in the world but nobody is allowed to buy it. I wonder if it's not as good as they say... <s/c>
They probably didn't want some unscrupulous individuals getting ahold of their chip to reverse engineer thus stealing their "secret sauce". Can't have others using their own playbook against them now can they?...‹/sc›
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#6
defaultluser
TotallyThey probably didn't want some unscrupulous individuals getting ahold of their chip to reverse engineer thus stealing their secret sauce. Can't have others using their own playbook against them now can they?...‹/sc›
because you know I seriously doubt this isn't another neoverse n2 clone
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#7
samum
By that logic, Nvidia Lovelace should be disqualified from benchmark listings.
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#8
DeathtoGnomes
TotallyThey probably didn't want some unscrupulous individuals getting ahold of their chip to reverse engineer thus stealing their "secret sauce". Can't have others using their own playbook against them now can they?...‹/sc›
that has /tinhat written in there somewhere.

So would that chip qualify for vaporware label? or neverwasware?
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#9
prtskg
Was this supposed to be manufactured at TSMC? And isn't TSMC banned from manufacturing high level processors for China?
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