Wednesday, November 23rd 2022

Announcing the TechPowerUp SSD Specs Database

We are announcing the latest addition to our PC enthusiast databases, the new TechPowerUp SSD Specs Database. Modeled along the lines of our immensely popular GPU Database, CPU Database, and hardware Reviews Database, the new SSD Specs Database, curated by Gabriel Ferraz, aims to be a definitive repository of information on solid-state drive (SSD) hardware specs, for all to freely access. Here, you'll find a growing collection of client SSD hardware specs across all relevant form-factors and information. The database also helps you identify multiple hardware revisions of the same SSD model, so you're aware of any bait-and-switch incidents, or vague specs by manufacturers.

The TechPowerUp SSD Specs Database has individual info pages on each capacity variant of an SSD model; besides any hardware variants it may have. You can have quick, actionable information on specs such as controller, NAND flash, DRAM cache, advanced NAND flash specs, interface, protocol, controller hardware specs, and known performance numbers from our testing. We are constantly adding new drives to this database, and you can help us grow, not just by suggesting improvements to the database itself, but for additions to the database, please reach out to the curator on the main page. But for now, enjoy what we've built for you!

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215 Comments on Announcing the TechPowerUp SSD Specs Database

#76
GabrielLP14
SSD DB Maintainer
_JP_So, effectively, that is one of the requirements you need to make the database entry. Got it! :)
Not necessarily, I can make an entrance saying it just uses "TLC" dies but will be quite empty :/
i think i have an example here on a more recent SSD one sec
www.techpowerup.com/ssd-specs/adata-project-nightbird-1-tb.d619

Looks empty don't you think?
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#77
_JP_
Well, that one is unreleased, but I agree. :D
I just figured that between you and W1zzard would have set a minimum of data available - like if one doesn't own the SSD to dump a VLO and take pics, but can access datasheets with some detail - to make it an eligible entry for the database.
From those datasheets, even from manufacturer to manufacturer, they differ. Transcend does not list the controller, amongst other fine details, and Samsung provides more info one the OEM drives, than on the consumer ones (I've also grown frustrated by this, to always require a test drive to disassemble first, then buy a batch of the same SKU). So my question was if the "least" detailed were still eligible for an entry, even if more data would be shared in the long run.
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#78
GabrielLP14
SSD DB Maintainer
_JP_Well, that one is unreleased, but I agree. :D
I just figured that between you and W1zzard would have set a minimum of data available - like if one doesn't own the SSD to dump a VLO and take pics, but can access datasheets with some detail - to make it an eligible entry for the database.
From those datasheets, even from manufacturer to manufacturer, they differ. Transcend does not list the controller, amongst other fine details, and Samsung provides more info one the OEM drives, than on the consumer ones (I've also grown frustrated by this, to always require a test drive to disassemble first, then buy a batch of the same SKU). So my question was if the "least" detailed were still eligible for an entry, even if more data would be shared in the long run.
Yes, i'll sure add them, might just take a few hours though :D
I don't think we need a "minimum requirement" to add, if i want to add a drive just saying test drive, i'd just need to fill necessary things like, capacity, and basic things like that
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#79
Wirko
W1zzardhmm ... how would you adjust the ranges?
Under 60 GB
60 GB ... 119 GB
120 GB ... 239 GB
240 GB ... 479 GB
480 GB ... 959 GB
960 GB ... 1.8 TB
1.9 TB ... 3.7 TB
3.8 TB ... 7.5 TB
7.6 TB and more

For example, the 960 GB ... 1.8 TB option would find everything around 1 TB but nothing around 2 TB. Intermediate capacities like 1.5 TB don't matter, they are rare or nonexistent in consumer drives anyway.

Also, unless your aim is to build a database that goes very far back in history, the under 60 GB option isn't of much use.
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#80
W1zzard
WirkoUnder 60 GB
60 GB ... 119 GB
120 GB ... 239 GB
240 GB ... 479 GB
480 GB ... 959 GB
960 GB ... 1.8 TB
1.9 TB ... 3.7 TB
3.8 TB ... 7.5 TB
7.6 TB and more

For example, the 960 GB ... 1.8 TB option would find everything around 1 TB but nothing around 2 TB. Intermediate capacities like 1.5 TB don't matter, they are rare or nonexistent in consumer drives anyway.

Also, unless your aim is to build a database that goes very far back in history, the under 60 GB option isn't of much use.
Good suggestions, thanks! I think we can go with just "Under 120 GB" for now

Some additional data, because I was wondering about the same thing
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#81
kapone32
Most of my drives are Micron 96 or 176 layer. It really shows the controller's importance when my budget 2 TB SSD has the same flash as a PCIe 4.0 drive that is 10x faster in sequential.
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#84
GabrielLP14
SSD DB Maintainer
NoneRainGreat stuff!!
Thank you :D
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#85
Ferrum Master
GabrielLP14Thank you :D
I too lazy... I took first drive and it wasn't in the list. What and where add? Is there a form or something?
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#86
GabrielLP14
SSD DB Maintainer
Ferrum MasterI too lazy... I took first drive and it wasn't in the list. What and where add? Is there a form or something?
Hmm sorry man i didnt understand what you mean? You tried searching for some drive?
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#87
Ferrum Master
GabrielLP14Hmm sorry man i didnt understand what you mean? You tried searching for some drive?
I am asking for the contribute button lol

Is there some sort of form or something like that, you will get buried in emails otherwise.

I have a Toshiba drive lying around now. Specs of IC's? Nude shots? Benchmarks?
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#88
chrcoluk
Please add SLC cache size, also will this include bait and switch revisions?
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#89
Wirko
Do we know with any certainty which companies actually make NAND packages (buy wafers and do the dicing, binning, thinning, packaging, testing, marking, in at least six facilities on at least three continents) and which ones just rebrand those packages (erasing, marking, two continents)?

One example: as W1zzard states in his review of the HP FX900, "The two flash chips are Micron 176-layer 3D TLC NAND. They have been rebranded by BIWIN, who's manufacturing this drive for HP. BIWIN buys the wafer from Micron, cuts and test the individual dies, and then packages them into their own chips." Meanwhile, in the database it's "Rebranded: BW29F4T08ENLEE".

There may be many cases like this, and it's not fair to call them rebrands.
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#90
GabrielLP14
SSD DB Maintainer
Ferrum MasterI am asking for the contribute button lol

Is there some sort of form or something like that, you will get buried in emails otherwise.

I have a Toshiba drive lying around now. Specs of IC's? Nude shots? Benchmarks?
You can use these softwares depending on the controller and send me the VLO.txt it generates so i can populate the DB
vlo.name:3000/ssdtool/
chrcolukPlease add SLC cache size, also will this include bait and switch revisions?
I always add, please remember that manufacturers don't share this information, only reviewers do, and most reviewers don't even test these data, and different SSD revisions might have different cache sizes, so thats why it's not listed, because we don't know
WirkoDo we know with any certainty which companies actually make NAND packages (buy wafers and do the dicing, binning, thinning, packaging, testing, marking, in at least six facilities on at least three continents) and which ones just rebrand those packages (erasing, marking, two continents)?

One example: as W1zzard states in his review of the HP FX900, "The two flash chips are Micron 176-layer 3D TLC NAND. They have been rebranded by BIWIN, who's manufacturing this drive for HP. BIWIN buys the wafer from Micron, cuts and test the individual dies, and then packages them into their own chips." Meanwhile, in the database it's "Rebranded: BW29F4T08ENLEE".

There may be many cases like this, and it's not fair to call them rebrands.
Yes
Samsung
YMTC
Kioxia (Toshiba/WD/SanDisk)
SK Hynix
Micron/Intel
WirkoDo we know with any certainty which companies actually make NAND packages (buy wafers and do the dicing, binning, thinning, packaging, testing, marking, in at least six facilities on at least three continents) and which ones just rebrand those packages (erasing, marking, two continents)?

One example: as W1zzard states in his review of the HP FX900, "The two flash chips are Micron 176-layer 3D TLC NAND. They have been rebranded by BIWIN, who's manufacturing this drive for HP. BIWIN buys the wafer from Micron, cuts and test the individual dies, and then packages them into their own chips." Meanwhile, in the database it's "Rebranded: BW29F4T08ENLEE".

There may be many cases like this, and it's not fair to call them rebrands.
Biwin rebrands it, Micron manufactures the dies, SpecTek usually have lower binned dies
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#91
W1zzard
chrcolukPlease add SLC cache size
I guess what we could add is that we show "SLC Cache: Yes, Size: Unknown", when we know that it has caching, but we don't know the exact size?
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#92
chrcoluk
W1zzardI guess what we could add is that we show "SLC Cache: Yes, Size: Unknown", when we know that it has caching, but we don't know the exact size?
That would be awesome.
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#93
Mussels
Freshwater Moderator
W1zzardThat's actually a fantastic idea that I can use in a couple of other places


"w/" means "with", and "w/o" means "without" .. i think .. any native speakers?
/w with, /wo or w/o work for without
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#95
ThrashZone
Hi,
I wouldn't bother abbreviating with
Only without and yes that would often be w/o but see, with is only one more letter and is clear as day by meaning no need for mapping meaning of it now ;)
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#96
GabrielLP14
SSD DB Maintainer
_JP_In the same motif: PM981 'MZVLB'
These are more on the generic-side of datasheets, but still useful?: Samsung 830, 840 EVO, 840 EVO (Page 7), 750 EVO
Additionally: Transcend 370S, HSD370.

For some of these I'll try to get a VLO and pics.
Samsumg 830 Series Added
www.techpowerup.com/ssd-specs/samsung-830-512-gb.d1224

@_JP_ Samsung 750 EVO also added
www.techpowerup.com/ssd-specs/samsung-750-evo-500-gb.d1228

I'll focus now on these transcend drives

Transcend SSD370S added
www.techpowerup.com/ssd-specs/transcend-ssd370s-1-tb.d1236
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#97
GabrielLP14
SSD DB Maintainer
Does anyone here have the Datasheet for the Samsung 470 series SSDs?
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#99
GabrielLP14
SSD DB Maintainer
WirkoNot the datasheet but a review with some manufacturer's data and interior pics
www.thessdreview.com/our-reviews/samsung-470-series-256-gb-ssd-review-30nm/
and some more data (exact model of controller and flash chips)
en.techinfodepot.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Samsung_470_Series_256GB
Thank you.
I'll see what i can do, it's really difficult to get detailed information on these older planar NANDs
One of the issue is some sites claim it's Samsung 30nm and others claim 32nm lol

So far that's what i've been able to dig
www.techpowerup.com/ssd-specs/samsung-470-series-256-gb.d1260
I just wish i knew how many planes there were in each of these dies, so i could calculate an average of throughput for each individual die since in their Datasheet they already stipulate close to 2ms of tPROG
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#100
Wirko
GabrielLP14Thank you.
I'll see what i can do, it's really difficult to get detailed information on these older planar NANDs
One of the issue is some sites claim it's Samsung 30nm and others claim 32nm lol
There's a Samsung product selection guide from 2H2011, found on the archive.org, that has a bit of info too. The part number matches what I posted before - but it's for the 9.5 mm thick version, the thinner 7 mm version has a different part number. Note that the SSD drive called PM810 exists too, so it could be the very same thing as the 470.
web.archive.org/web/20141227093052/http://www.samsung.com/us/business/oem-solutions/pdfs/PSG2011_FINAL-092011.pdf

The drive:


The NAND package:


And hey, Samsung had "3bit MLC" chips in 2011, that must be the thing that much later became known as TLC!

There's something interesting about the S3C29MAX01-Y340 controller too. As it appears, it was sold separately as a general purpose microcontroller, I found it here, with no mention of SSD applications.
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