Wednesday, November 23rd 2022

Announcing the TechPowerUp SSD Specs Database

We are announcing the latest addition to our PC enthusiast databases, the new TechPowerUp SSD Specs Database. Modeled along the lines of our immensely popular GPU Database, CPU Database, and hardware Reviews Database, the new SSD Specs Database, curated by Gabriel Ferraz, aims to be a definitive repository of information on solid-state drive (SSD) hardware specs, for all to freely access. Here, you'll find a growing collection of client SSD hardware specs across all relevant form-factors and information. The database also helps you identify multiple hardware revisions of the same SSD model, so you're aware of any bait-and-switch incidents, or vague specs by manufacturers.

The TechPowerUp SSD Specs Database has individual info pages on each capacity variant of an SSD model; besides any hardware variants it may have. You can have quick, actionable information on specs such as controller, NAND flash, DRAM cache, advanced NAND flash specs, interface, protocol, controller hardware specs, and known performance numbers from our testing. We are constantly adding new drives to this database, and you can help us grow, not just by suggesting improvements to the database itself, but for additions to the database, please reach out to the curator on the main page. But for now, enjoy what we've built for you!

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215 Comments on Announcing the TechPowerUp SSD Specs Database

#101
GabrielLP14
SSD DB Maintainer
WirkoAnd hey, Samsung had "3bit MLC" chips in 2011, that must be the thing that much later became known as TLC!
3-bit MLC is TLC, they just try to trick people, because MLC is "Multi" Level Cell, so in theory if it has more than 2 it can be called MLC, if in the future they release a PLC die (5 bits ber cell) they'll definitely call it 5-bit MLC
WirkoThere's something interesting about the S3C29MAX01-Y340 controller too. As it appears, it was sold separately as a general purpose microcontroller, I found it here, with no mention of SSD applications.
That's NEAT :D
WirkoThere's a Samsung product selection guide from 2H2011, found on the archive.org, that has a bit of info too. The part number matches what I posted before - but it's for the 9.5 mm thick version, the thinner 7 mm version has a different part number. Note that the SSD drive called PM810 exists too, so it could be the very same thing as the 470.
I'll try to add these as well

hey @Wirko Check it out.
sci-hub.se/10.1109/ISSCC.2010.5433912
The following picture is a Samsung MLC 32Gb 32nm Die from Samsung, the ones used in the Samsung 470 series
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#102
Wirko
GabrielLP143-bit MLC is TLC, they just try to trick people, because MLC is "Multi" Level Cell, so in theory if it has more than 2 it can be called MLC, if in the future they release a PLC die (5 bits ber cell) they'll definitely call it 5-bit MLC
GabrielLP14hey @Wirko Check it out.
sci-hub.se/10.1109/ISSCC.2010.5433912
The following picture is a Samsung MLC 32Gb 32nm Die from Samsung, the ones used in the Samsung 470 series
That's a lot of data in there.
I see just a small error in the database, the block size is 1024 KB or 128 pages, not 1024 pages.

Those old chips, they had fully binary organisation, there was 2^n of everything. It's quite different in new ones.
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#103
GabrielLP14
SSD DB Maintainer
WirkoThat's a lot of data in there.
I see just a small error in the database, the block size is 1024 KB or 128 pages, not 1024 pages.

Those old chips, they had fully binary organisation, there was 2^n of everything. It's quite different in new ones.
oh great catch thanks :D
Corrected

It actually much harder to find data on these older dies then newer ones lol
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#104
Mussels
Freshwater Moderator
Oh no, my WD SN730 isnt listed


*Hysterical crying*
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#106
Mussels
Freshwater Moderator
GabrielLP14I'll try adding this line-up, to be honest i didn't even remember them hahaha


i have added it, unfortunately i couldn't find much
www.techpowerup.com/ssd-specs/western-digital-sn730-1-tb.d1262
They're an OEM model - Mine came from a batch of failed AN1500 RAID cards, I kept getting sent 1TB models (2x512) instead of 4TB (2x2TB) and in the end took the SSD's out and ditched the overheating cards, after they let me keep them despite refunding me
Ended up with 6 of the bloody things, good thing they're somewhat decent


What we need now is an SSD chart like the GPU one, showing loose performance comparisons...


I'll accept donations of one of every SSD ever, and work my way through if needed
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#107
GabrielLP14
SSD DB Maintainer
MusselsThey're an OEM model - Mine came from a batch of failed AN1500 RAID cards, I kept getting sent 1TB models (2x512) instead of 4TB (2x2TB) and in the end took the SSD's out and ditched the overheating cards, after they let me keep them despite refunding me
Ended up with 6 of the bloody things, good thing they're somewhat decent


What we need now is an SSD chart like the GPU one, showing loose performance comparisons...


I'll accept donations of one of every SSD ever, and work my way through if needed
Oh yeah, i noticed, i read some reviews of these AIC AN1500 and saw these SN730 there. Fortunately, they are indeed good drives.
It might be tough to do it since SSDs are more susceptible to have performance impact if you change the testing platform like Intel x AMD, and even if we use our own testing data which W1zzard has over the years, it would still be missing literally hundreds of drives.
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#108
Wirko
MusselsOh no, my WD SN730 isnt listed


*Hysterical crying*
The database won't be complete until my 80 GB Intel X25-M G2 planar MLC drive makes an appearance. Maybe I can send the VLO ... if the utility runs on Windows XP.
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#109
GabrielLP14
SSD DB Maintainer
WirkoThe database won't be complete until my 80 GB Intel X25-M G2 planar MLC drive makes an appearance. Maybe I can send the VLO ... if the utility runs on Windows XP.
yes it runs ahahaha, i've never heard of this drive before hahaha
The issue is, if the controller is proprietary you won't be able to run it.
Only controllers like, Phison, Silicon Motion, Innogrit, Maxiotech etc
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#112
_JP_
The thing with OEM drives is that they usually have really detailed documentation by my experience, due to the number of specialized applications other manufacturers might require, but those are usually hard to find, or behind a partner portal.
With the exception of the latter, because NDAs likely prohibit, it takes a bit more time to find the right stuff. :)
I'm glad I could help!
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#113
GabrielLP14
SSD DB Maintainer
_JP_The thing with OEM drives is that they usually have really detailed documentation by my experience, due to the number of specialized applications other manufacturers might require, but those are usually hard to find, or behind a partner portal.
With the exception of the latter, because NDAs likely prohibit, it takes a bit more time to find the right stuff. :)
I'm glad I could help!
Makes sense indeed
If you find any other feel free to mention me :D
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#114
Mussels
Freshwater Moderator
_JP_Would this this doc help?
The details!


I love how WD hide certain stats on some drives, try finding the TBW on their kamikazee drives aka the WD greens

"1 million hours" and a few asterisks

SSD-Z name was already tried by someone in the past, but we need a TPU-Z program that can read these details like GPU-Z does and upload specs to be verified

It could be like userbench, without being shit! :D
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#115
_JP_
GabrielLP14Makes sense indeed
If you find any other feel free to mention me :D
Will do!
But you can also reach-out to me if you're having a hard time finding more info on a drive, just mention the model and I'll see what I can do. :)
MusselsI love how WD hide certain stats on some drives, try finding the TBW on their kamikazee drives aka the WD greens

"1 million hours" and a few asterisks
You'd think that they actually test that thoroughly? :laugh:
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#116
GabrielLP14
SSD DB Maintainer
_JP_Will do!
But you can also reach-out to me if you're having a hard time finding more info on a drive, just mention the model and I'll see what I can do. :)

You'd think that they actually test that thoroughly? :laugh:
sure, right now i'm trying to find a doc sheet on the Micron MLC 32Gb 34nm Die so i can add that ancient Intel SSD our friend suggested
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#117
_JP_
Hm, that info requires registration at Micron, but I'd say it's doable. I'll see what I can do.
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#118
GabrielLP14
SSD DB Maintainer
_JP_Hm, that info requires registration at Micron, but I'd say it's doable. I'll see what I can do.
no need just try to find on google scholar, its free and no registration required, there you can find these docs but i cant find it, for example, check it out
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#119
Wirko
Thanks a lot, fellow archeologists.

I see that the same Intel's controler was used in several other SSDs, including enterprise models, so there's a high probability that the same NAND dies went into those too.

The controller is Intel PC29AS21BA0, at least in the 160 GB model, and it's a 10-channel controller. A funny model number I must say, since "29" was reserved for EEPROM chips and all their ilk, including NAND, sincer ever at Intel. Just like 27 was EPROM, 82 were/are peripherals, and we all know 80.

Edit: not entirely true, the 320 (consumer) and 710 (enterprise) SSDs had the same controller but 25 nm NAND.
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#120
GabrielLP14
SSD DB Maintainer
WirkoThe database won't be complete until my 80 GB Intel X25-M G2 planar MLC drive makes an appearance. Maybe I can send the VLO ... if the utility runs on Windows XP.
Hey buddy great news for you.
Look at what i found... hahah



Since i now have more in depth data from these dies, i can surely add the Intel X25-M G2 with more reliable data.
WirkoThanks a lot, fellow archeologists.

I see that the same Intel's controler was used in several other SSDs, including enterprise models, so there's a high probability that the same NAND dies went into those too.

The controller is Intel PC29AS21BA0, at least in the 160 GB model, and it's a 10-channel controller. A funny model number I must say, since "29" was reserved for EEPROM chips and all their ilk, including NAND, sincer ever at Intel. Just like 27 was EPROM, 82 were/are peripherals, and we all know 80.

Edit: not entirely true, the 320 (consumer) and 710 (enterprise) SSDs had the same controller but 25 nm NAND.
i'll try to find more data on the controller now and then move to add them to the database.
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#121
Wirko
Another bit of archeological info: how Intel increased the write endurance for their enterprise SSDs.

He's probably referring to the same 25nm type of die that's also found in the Intel 320 (consumer) and 710 (enterprise) SSDs, also analysed and compared here by Tom's Hardware. HET means High Endurance Technology, which means whatever Intel tells us or doesn't tell us. They had to reveal at least some info because back then it was necessary to convince enterprise users that MLC can be trusted.

As it appears, the 710 has better binned dies, writes at lower speeds (so it can charge the cells with more precision), and also writes at lower voltages. On top of that, it has an incredible amount of overprovisioning: 320 GB raw, 200 GB available. All that was supposed to result in 33x more rewrite cycles than in the consumer-oriented 320.

I believe SSD manufacturers still have to make similar compromises today: higher write speed and lower endurance, or the other way around.
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#122
GabrielLP14
SSD DB Maintainer
WirkoAnother bit of archeological info: how Intel increased the write endurance for their enterprise SSDs.

He's probably referring to the same 25nm type of die that's also found in the Intel 320 (consumer) and 710 (enterprise) SSDs, also analysed and compared here by Tom's Hardware. HET means High Endurance Technology, which means whatever Intel tells us or doesn't tell us. They had to reveal at least some info because back then it was necessary to convince enterprise users that MLC can be trusted.

As it appears, the 710 has better binned dies, writes at lower speeds (so it can charge the cells with more precision), and also writes at lower voltages. On top of that, it has an incredible amount of overprovisioning: 320 GB raw, 200 GB available. All that was supposed to result in 33x more rewrite cycles than in the consumer-oriented 320.

I believe SSD manufacturers still have to make similar compromises today: higher write speed and lower endurance, or the other way around.
Quite interesting i'll be sure adding that as well in the near future :D
WirkoI believe SSD manufacturers still have to make similar compromises today: higher write speed and lower endurance, or the other way around.
Not always though, Samsung, SK Hynix, Kioxia have capped their die throughput in some SSDs to have higher endurance.
For example, get the Samsung 990 Pro, the 2TB have 32 dies of Samsung V7 512Gb 176-Layers, these dies in a day to day scenario can beat 150-160MB/s of write throughput. So 32 dies x 150 MB/s = ~4.800 MB/s
But as you can see in the graph below, the Drive writes at an average of 1.4 GB/s
They did that to not only increase endurance (probably) but to generate less heat output and a higher efficiency (MBps / watt)
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#123
Mussels
Freshwater Moderator
3-12 months of data retention is still scary AF, I power up my laptop like twice a year
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#124
_JP_
3-12 months of guarantee that there will not be rotting bits (You'd be surprised how many people didn't know this was a thing for USB pens since those showed-up, where the guarantee was in hours to weeks, at best).
It doesn't mean that after that time your data simply becomes unrecoverable, there's still ECC. :laugh:
Really comes down to how the PCB is done, but regardless of that, it's worse for higher layered NAND.
Too bad SLC/MLC SSDs for lower capacities aren't a thing anymore, besides halo products. :oops:
The Transcend 370S was the last one I could find "widely available", being MLC, back in 2018. And I say it this way because I could find them at a few stores, but those had little stock and had them costing a small fortune for 512GB.
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#125
GabrielLP14
SSD DB Maintainer
_JP_3-12 months of guarantee that there will not be rotting bits (You'd be surprised how many people didn't know this was a thing for USB pens since those showed-up, where the guarantee was in hours to weeks).
It doesn't mean that after that time you data simply becomes unrecoverable, there's still ECC. :laugh:
Really comes down to how the PCB is done, but regardless of that, it's worse for higher layered NAND.
Too bad SLC/MLC SSDs for lower capacities aren't a thing anymore, besides halo products. :oops:
The Transcend 370S was the last one I could find "widely available", being MLC, back in 2018. And I say it this way because I could find them at a few stores, but those had little stock and had them costing a small fortune for 512GB.
I can imagine, a few years ago i tried buying one Samsung 860 Pro
but jesus, those are extremely expensive
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