Thursday, December 29th 2022

AMD Said to be Following NVIDIA with Logistics Center in Taiwan

Just over a month ago, news broke that NVIDIA is planning to move its logistics center from Hong Kong to Taiwan and it now looks like AMD is getting ready to follow suit. The news is coming via Taiwan's United Daily News (UDN) and the paper claims that AMD will be setting up its logistics center in the Farglory free trade zone area in the Dayuan district of Taoyuan, which is next to Taiwan's main international airport. Currently companies like ASML and Asus operate inside the free trade zone and Farglory is currently in the last phase of an expansion of the free trade zone, which should be finalised sometime early in 2023. As such, there should be plenty of space for both NVIDIA and AMD to set up their logistics centers there.

The move for AMD doesn't seem to make as much sense as that of NVIDIA, as AMD's main graphics card partners, which should be Sapphire and XFX (Pine Group), are Hong Kong based companies. That said, AMD still has PowerColor, ASRock, Asus, Gigabyte and MSI in Taiwan, but only PowerColor is an exclusive AMD partner. This does of course not take motherboards or servers into account, where its Taiwanese partners are key. On the other hand, just as NVIDIA, AMD produces its GPUs at TSMC, so for products that doesn't end up in the PRC, it would make more sense to have them go straight to a logistics center in Taiwan, rather than having to ship them out to Hong Kong and then back to Taiwan again. According to UDN it's apparently also cheaper for AMD to shop goods directly from Taiwan to the PRC, as it's apparently quite costly to ship via Hong Kong. Another reason is of course the ongoing trade war between the US and the PRC, which could lead to future issues for both AMD and NVIDIA. Hong Kong has also slowly lost its importance as a key center in the electronics business, with Taiwan and Singapore having become more important hubs, according to UDN.
Sources: United Daily News, via @dnystedt
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12 Comments on AMD Said to be Following NVIDIA with Logistics Center in Taiwan

#1
thegnome
The companies still in HK should move for sure, atleast to Taiwan.
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#2
ThrashZone
Hi,
So will China be a ghost country soon ?
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#3
TheLostSwede
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thegnomeThe companies still in HK should move for sure, atleast to Taiwan.
They were founded in Hong Kong, so might not be that easy to just up and move. Companies like the Pinte Group aren't exactly small players, even though they're nowhere near as big as they used to be at one point.
Then you have PC Partner, which owns Zotac, Gainward and some other brands. Sapphire is the only one of these that doesn't appear to be owned by another company behind the scenes and might be small enough to be able to move, but how do you get work permits for 100+ staffmembers in another country?
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#4
DeathtoGnomes
These moves to Taiwan are only putting a bigger target on it should PRC want to keep its revenue stream although not sure how the tax structure works for these big players.
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#5
95Viper
Stay on topic.
Stop the geo-political FUD posting.
This is a tech site not a political platform.
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#6
Wirko
What I can gather from this news post:

1. A company the size of AMD or Nvidia must have exactly one logistics center for the entire world
2. Each and every shipment of materials and end products must go through this logistics center.

Violà, we have met the industry requirements for supply chain fragility!
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#7
ixi
WirkoWhat I can gather from this news post:

1. A company the size of AMD or Nvidia must have exactly one logistics center for the entire world
2. Each and every shipment of materials and end products must go through this logistics center.

Violà, we have met the industry requirements for supply chain fragility!
Who will pay more, will get his stuff going even if there will be disaster....
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#8
Mistral
I can see Sapphire moving to Taiwan too..

Hong Kong's been getting f-ed up the last couple of years.
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#9
TheLostSwede
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MistralI can see Sapphire moving to Taiwan too..

Hong Kong's been getting f-ed up the last couple of years.
As I pointed out above, how?
You can't just up and move 100+ staff members and their families to another country.
Taiwan won't grant them all work permits, as Taiwan has quite peculiar laws pertaining to companies hiring foreign labour.
Even if Sapphire was to meet the revenue limits, they would need to hire several times more local staff for each foreign staff.
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#10
ixi
TheLostSwedeAs I pointed out above, how?
You can't just up and move 100+ staff members and their families to another country.
Taiwan won't grant them all work permits, as Taiwan has quite peculiar laws pertaining to companies hiring foreign labour.
Even if Sapphire was to meet the revenue limits, they would need to hire several times more local staff for each foreign staff.
Sapphire says to Taiwan. You want ma muņē? I make the rules who work here.

Jokes aside. Somehow I have a feeling that Sapphire movement to Taiwan will not be a problem and nor for the workers.
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#11
TheLostSwede
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ixiSapphire says to Taiwan. You want ma muņē? I make the rules who work here.

Jokes aside. Somehow I have a feeling that Sapphire movement to Taiwan will not be a problem and nor for the workers.
I take it you have never tried to apply for a work permit in Taiwan?
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#12
95Viper
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