i m interested to test out the Witcher 3, as it s a nightmare atm and unplayable on dx12 for me.

I guess for AMD we, previous customers, don't exist anymore. What's this, the second or third update for RX 7000 with no update for the older models?

SihastruI guess for AMD we, previous customers, don't exist anymore. What's this, the second or third update for RX 7000 with no update for the older models?

Oh the drama.... Just a month since the last all model whql driver release, which btw is running perfect on my 6600

SihastruI guess for AMD we, previous customers, don't exist anymore. What's this, the second or third update for RX 7000 with no update for the older models?

This fixes issues specific to the 7900 series. None of this even applies to the "previous customers".
What do you want them to do? Ignore critical issues for owners of the new cards to fix small bugs in the main branch instead?

Bruno_OOh the drama.... Just a month since the last all model whql driver release, which btw is running perfect on my 6600

Remember, lacking support is fine if its AMD. Now if nvidia were to not update RTX 3000 series for over a month in favor of RTX 4000s all hell would break loose.

XeanoaThis fixes issues specific to the 7900 series. None of this even applies to the "previous customers".
What do you want them to do? Ignore critical issues for owners of the new cards to fix small bugs in the main branch instead?

How about they support all their products instead of just their newest ones? Just a thought. Being small doesnt justify ignoring bugs especially when AMD's profits are no longer red.

My problem is that they created a development branch for the drivers, since AMD Adrenalin doesn't update from 22.11.2 for customers with previous models. Even if there are no actual code base updates related to previous models, this is concerning. One seldom received updates pertaining to their own exact model, but with each Adrenalin version updates used to be received nonetheless for the entire still supported product pool. Now this is no longer the case.

There are still issues that need to be fixed for previous models, like black screens, video playback, power spikes, multi-monitor issues and even some general instability, that sometimes AMD doesn't even acknowledge. And it's interesting since these issues keep reappearing with most new generations of hardware, which implies a significant amount of technical debt in the code base. So abandonment, even if seemingly temporary, or postponement in favor of the "new shiny thing" doesn't bode well the the future. Instead of doing root cause analysis they are happy with an endless cycle of patching that doesn't fully address the issue, just masks it for a while.

SihastruMy problem is that they created a development branch for the drivers, since AMD Adrenalin doesn't update from 22.11.2 for customers with previous models. Even if there are no actual code base updates related to previous models, this is concerning. One seldom received updates pertaining to their own exact model, but with each Adrenalin version updates used to be received nonetheless for the entire still supported product pool. Now this is no longer the case.

There are still issues that need to be fixed for previous models, like black screens, video playback, power spikes, multi-monitor issues and even some general instability, that sometimes AMD doesn't even acknowledge. And it's interesting since these issues keep reappearing with most new generations of hardware, which implies a significant amount of technical debt in the code base. So abandonment, even if seemingly temporary, or postponement in favor of the "new shiny thing" doesn't bode well the the future. Instead of doing root cause analysis they are happy with an endless cycle of patching that doesn't fully addresses the issue, just masks it for a while.

I understand the concern (owned a 6800 XT until weeks ago) but IMO it's too early for concern. The new lineup was launched in an obvious rush with subpar drivers. Deathloop, a major game, is still completely broken with the new driver, I can't play 5 minutes without a crash. The separate packages for RDNA3 and RDNA2 or older is useful if there are releases that only have any change for the new arch, it doesn't necessarily mean anything in terms of code branching etc.

Lucas_i m interested to test out the Witcher 3, as it s a nightmare atm and unplayable on dx12 for me.

sadly i can report back after like 10 min in the game i got the same crash ................. didn't fix it.

opinaliI understand the concern (owned a 6800 XT until weeks ago) but IMO it's too early for concern. The new lineup was launched in an obvious rush with subpar drivers. Deathloop, a major game, is still completely broken with the new driver, I can't play 5 minutes without a crash. The separate packages for RDNA3 and RDNA2 or older is useful if there are releases that only have any change for the new arch, it doesn't necessarily mean anything in terms of code branching etc.

This is true, launch is always a bit rocky. I think a lot of it comes from AMD's history. They abandoned the evergreen series way earlier (and in a terrible state) then nvidia did fermi, and then more recently they cut of GPUs that were only 6 years old again. They have a habit of doing this, and while the RX 6000s are not old I dont trust AMD's ability to maintain multiple driver paths. Hell I barely trust them on a single path.

RDN3 is the first architecture to be chiplet-based, so there are bound to be problems that the previous monolithic generations don't possess. So what's the point?

Yes, AMD is back at being profitable, but they still have one tenth of Intel and Nvidia's budget, so go ahead and sue AMD for only updating the drivers of their "new shiny thing".

Whining in a tech forum comment section isn't gonna do you much help, chap.

SihastruMy problem is that they created a development branch for the drivers, since AMD Adrenalin doesn't update from 22.11.2 for customers with previous models. Even if there are no actual code base updates related to previous models, this is concerning. One seldom received updates pertaining to their own exact model, but with each Adrenalin version updates used to be received nonetheless for the entire still supported product pool. Now this is no longer the case.

There are still issues that need to be fixed for previous models, like black screens, video playback, power spikes, multi-monitor issues and even some general instability, that sometimes AMD doesn't even acknowledge. And it's interesting since these issues keep reappearing with most new generations of hardware, which implies a significant amount of technical debt in the code base. So abandonment, even if seemingly temporary, or postponement in favor of the "new shiny thing" doesn't bode well the the future. Instead of doing root cause analysis they are happy with an endless cycle of patching that doesn't fully address the issue, just masks it for a while.

You have been spoiled by AMD's monthly driver updates. Right now I would argue that the 6000 series are Rock solid. The 7000 series is a completely new node that will need to be tuned as the cards are still brand new.

TheinsanegamerNRemember, lacking support is fine if its AMD. Now if nvidia were to not update RTX 3000 series for over a month in favor of RTX 4000s all hell would break loose.

I kinda see it the other way around, If Nvidia does it...well so what? Nvidia has dA BesT DRIveRs.
If AMD does it, Omg U GuyS TOld yA aMd drIVErs BAd, tHIs iS JUsT Moar PROoF.

TheinsanegamerNRemember, lacking support is fine if its AMD. Now if nvidia were to not update RTX 3000 series for over a month in favor of RTX 4000s all hell would break loose.


How about they support all their products instead of just their newest ones? Just a thought. Being small doesnt justify ignoring bugs especially when AMD's profits are no longer red.

It's been just a month since the last driver release for anything RDNA2 or older, and we've had the holidays and a new product launch inbetween. It's a bit early to call that "not supporting older products".

Also, AMD officially stated that a new unified driver is coming. Why complain about a hotfix driver for a new GPU that's been make available in the meantime?

You guys are freaking overreacting over some drivers... AMD just made a completely new never been done before chip, there is going to be some growing pains and they have to focus all their might to resolving the problems before them. RDNA 2 drivers are solid, the RDNA 3...well...umm... So yeah AMD is doing what they gotta do. I knew this would happen when I did my mini-rant last year (I know it sounds so long ago /sigh).

TheinsanegamerNThis is true, launch is always a bit rocky. I think a lot of it comes from AMD's history. They abandoned the evergreen series way earlier (and in a terrible state) then nvidia did fermi, and then more recently they cut of GPUs that were only 6 years old again. They have a habit of doing this, and while the RX 6000s are not old I dont trust AMD's ability to maintain multiple driver paths. Hell I barely trust them on a single path.

Hopefully nothing like that will happen now, the RDNA3 arch is not a radical departure from RDNA2 or even RDNA1. It's a big change in the physical layer (chiplets), but the core ISA and feature set are essentially the same, just a few extra instructions here and there and more complicated scheduling and shader compilation for the dual-issue shaders. Nothing super new like ray tracing added to RDNA2. Unless you count the much improved video codecs (VCN 4.0) but that's a very separate thing in both the silicon and driver support (and perfectly fine already in my experience, works like a charm from day one no need of fixes).

There's also the fact that we are in a slow period for game launches so there's no demand of driver updates for big AAA titles. Last year there was a big Adrenalin 22.1.1 by this time, because of God of War. First big one coming is Forspoken (especially big for AMD) so I would bet we get the first driver update for everyone on the 24.

Guwapo77You guys are freaking overreacting over some drivers... AMD just made a completely new never been done before chip, there is going to be some growing pains and they have to focus all their might to resolving the problems before them. RDNA 2 drivers are solid, the RDNA 3...well...umm... So yeah AMD is doing what they gotta do. I knew this would happen when I did my mini-rant last year (I sounds so long ago /sigh).

Exactly. One of the employees on reddit begged users to calm down and said a unified driver is coming not uber fast but its coming and thy are focusing on new architecture and drivers for immediate issues with RDNA3.

I have a RDNA2 in my son's computer and I could care less, its stable and it works and I can wait a few months. Its been holidays and its been only a month combined with holidays.

It's the new internet age, people just love to complain. I understand when the complain is valid but to beat a dead horse it gets annoying.

TheinsanegamerNThis is true, launch is always a bit rocky. I think a lot of it comes from AMD's history. They abandoned the evergreen series way earlier (and in a terrible state) then nvidia did fermi, and then more recently they cut of GPUs that were only 6 years old again. They have a habit of doing this, and while the RX 6000s are not old I dont trust AMD's ability to maintain multiple driver paths. Hell I barely trust them on a single path.

Their employee literally said on reddit that the drivers will be unified and its coming. People just have less patience these days for things and internet is a place to complain and whine first.

SihastruI guess for AMD we, previous customers, don't exist anymore. What's this, the second or third update for RX 7000 with no update for the older models?

If there is no new driver for "old" GPUs for - let's say 30 days - some people are ready to freak out and start to panic. LAUGHABLE!

Honestly, what did you expect? No company will spend time, money or any other type of resource into old products when the new products, that will make them most of the earned money now and in future, are in dire need of fixes while old GPUs run quite well right now.

I was using the 22.5.1 WHQL driver until a complete new install of the OS last month.

Relax. AMD - apart from my expectation - did just fix some RX580 issues lately and I guess they will do in the future but I also have no doubts, that the newst generation will ALWAYS be the one to get the most attention. In a world where "Never change a running system" never lost it's validity actually nothing to bad, as most AMD drivers not only fix issues but also create new ones from time to time.

TheinsanegamerNRemember, lacking support is fine if its AMD. Now if nvidia were to not update RTX 3000 series for over a month in favor of RTX 4000s all hell would break loose.

Well if one pays double the price one should expect double the updates!! ;)

mechtechWell if one pays double the price one should expect double the updates!! ;)

Exactly... if you pay peanuts, you get monkeys. ;)

TheinsanegamerNHow about they support all their products instead of just their newest ones? Just a thought.

What's the rush? I'd rather they took some time and wrote a steady and more proper driver. Obviously RX 7900 need a lot of optimisation, while older cards just need some upgrades to support new games and fixes to minor bugs.
Again, I think one major bug is still stability. Not that it crashes during gaming, but it does when in the driver UI for no reason...

Can we talk about how the ridiculous idle power draw hasn't been fixed? I was so excited to AMD this round, but how can I justify buying the newest "most efficient" cards when they use more power at idle than my current card does at load?

SihastruI guess for AMD we, previous customers, don't exist anymore. What's this, the second or third update for RX 7000 with no update for the older models?

There is an RDNA 3-exclusive branch which is under heavy development, still. This public release driver comes from that branch. Eventually both branches will merge and development will resume as normal. No need for FOMO, this isn't a conspiracy.

willcf15Can we talk about how the ridiculous idle power draw hasn't been fixed? I was so excited to AMD this round, but how can I justify buying the newest "most efficient" cards when they use more power at idle than my current card does at load?

From reddit, 7900 XT on this driver

Single 4k 60Hz screen, connected through HDMI 2.1

stock settings, GPU-Z 2.52 for monitoring, MPC for video playback, MS Edge browser

Windows 10 21H2



idle/desktop: 16w

Youtube 4k: 30w

Youtube 1080p: 36w (different codec?)

1080p videos, x264/x265/AV1: 36w

4k videos, x265/AV1: 48w


fans: once they kick in, they keep running at 460 rpm, inaudible.

Bruno_OFrom reddit, 7900 XT on this driver

Single 4k 60Hz screen, connected through HDMI 2.1

stock settings, GPU-Z 2.52 for monitoring, MPC for video playback, MS Edge browser

Windows 10 21H2



idle/desktop: 16w

Youtube 4k: 30w

Youtube 1080p: 36w (different codec?)

1080p videos, x264/x265/AV1: 36w

4k videos, x265/AV1: 48w


fans: once they kick in, they keep running at 460 rpm, inaudible.

Ah yes the famous reddit anecdote.

The question is does anyone else confirm it?

NkdTheir employee literally said on reddit

AH yes, the most reliable source of news *nutkick*