Thursday, March 9th 2023
AMD Ryzen 3 4300G Swarming the Market at $100-ish
AMD's entry-level Ryzen 3 4300G APU, which was being sold in the OEM/SI channels, is sneaking its way into the retail PIB space, with Japanese retailers listing it as a retail part. Until now, you could only get the 4300G as part of a pre-built, or as part of a retail "bundle," where they would simply pull one of these chips out of a tray, install it on an entry-level A520 or A320 chipset motherboard, and sell along with a stick of memory. The 4300G is commanding a roughly $100 (equivalent) price, which could make sense for entry-level mom-and-pop PCs.
The Ryzen 3 4300G is based on the 7 nm "Renoir" silicon, and is a Socket AM4 processor with integrated graphics. The processor has one of its two CCXs disabled, leaving you with a 4-core/8-thread CPU based on the "Zen 2" microarchitecture, that has 512 KB of L2 cache per core, and 4 MB of L3 cache shared among the four cores. The processor also features a dual-channel DDR4 memory interface, a PCI-Express Gen 3 interface, and an iGPU based on the Radeon "Vega" graphics architecture. It has a TDP of 65 W.
Source:
Tom's Hardware
The Ryzen 3 4300G is based on the 7 nm "Renoir" silicon, and is a Socket AM4 processor with integrated graphics. The processor has one of its two CCXs disabled, leaving you with a 4-core/8-thread CPU based on the "Zen 2" microarchitecture, that has 512 KB of L2 cache per core, and 4 MB of L3 cache shared among the four cores. The processor also features a dual-channel DDR4 memory interface, a PCI-Express Gen 3 interface, and an iGPU based on the Radeon "Vega" graphics architecture. It has a TDP of 65 W.
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Man, AMD seems to be really desperate to clean off outdated stuff out their shelves.
This isn’t even the only time this happened either, they literally made GCN 1.0 mobile dgpus that weren’t even faster than the laptop’s integrated graphics in 2019 (radeon 610, which was a rebranded radeon 520)
How can they have missed it being available for 4-6 months, maybe in a few markets even for longer than that?
If I wanted 2015 core counts and clock speeds I'm not sure I'd want to pay good money on new DDR4 and all the benefits AM4 brings to the table. Clearly at quad-core you're after the cheapest POS you can get your hands on that works.
The world has gone mad.
Like I've been saying. What "IS" obsolete. I've got a printer that's 27 years old and its overall better than what is seen for home use. Or a few legacy machines so I can play those Dos games I remember. It's how you use your equipment is what counts.
And oh I had the 4770S tricked out as well. Sandy Bridge was a good series for Intel.
It's super-common to find new Ryzens online/in-store that are LESS MONEY than recently sold examples USED on eBay. Also, the 3100x and 3300x were/are demanding a premium new and used both. (even after they were greatly superseded in performance)
My PoV: Manufacturers as well as (r)Etailers and independent sellers are taking advantage of hype/attention and 'knowledge gaps' in the general prospective customer base.
Reminds me of entry-level 'graphics adapters' that are sold at a premium and advertised as having 2x-4x the VRAM the given chip could ever use: Less performance, more price; taking advantage of naïveté.
and
How 'retro kit' always inflates in price after new releases from the RetroPCgaming YouTubers / 'recent kit' inflating after a TechTuber does a video on it.
Zen 3 had an 8-core CCX, so it didn't make any difference, but I never really realized that Zen 2 still had the cores in a CCX design.
All the more reason to dodge Zen 2 stuff if you can find Zen 3.
Plenty out there ( mom and pop machines as the article says ) don't really need even an
8 thread part TBH, I mean just how much grunt do you need to surf the net
or watch a 1080 movie off Netflix?
Not everyone wants to go used-there's little or no warranty.
That said, with the 5600G so close in price and with far better overall performance
I can't see this being other than a bottom-of-the-bargain-barrel choice.
Recenty updated by brothers system WITH a 5600G BTW, not surprisinly it's
a massive improvement over the previous ' mom and pop ' core it had:
FX6300/8GB RAM and...HD7950 GPU.
If the MB hadn't gone bad he'd still be happily using it-for surfing the web
and watching 1080 movies.
We don't all need fire breathing HAL 9000 systems.
If it does actually arrive in the US at $100, it's DOA, as the 6-core 4600G is going for $100 right now.
It's easy to get swept up in the hype of the latest and greatest CPUs and GPUs but you can still get most of the experience for peanuts. If anything, gaming on a 4770 and RX570 proves just how little you really need to enjoy a game. When you look at benchmarks and see the RTX 4090 getting 300fps it sure looks impressive in a bar graph but the game is still fun at 60fps.
If anyone asks me for build advice at work when they're on a tight budget, I always tell them to go and spend their CPU and GPU budget on decent peripherals, hand them a free 4770, RX570, and 500GB SSD, and tell them not to buy the shittiest case or PSU they can find. The peripherals, case, and PSU will last a decade and if they want to upgrade the CPU and GPU down the line that's an easy job.
And yes, many of us here want-or hope for-fire breathing setups, but, as you say, 60FPS is still more than playable and many are still at HD rez, which hugely lowers the system requirements, even
for current AAA titles.
Sage advice about the PSU and case as well, too many cheap out on the PSU in particular, When posting ' elsewhere ' on a regular basis It was one of my regular comments: Get a good PSU, especially if
you're going high end, cheap stuff can cause issues, even new.
I don't ask for anything in return but I can't say I don't appreciate the merits of regular "thank you" bottles of liquor, wine etc.
The closest would be the Steam Deck - but that is custom silicon with only 4 cores to start with, and 512 RDNA 2 shaders. Also, a LPDDR5 IMC instead of DDR4.
The XBOX and PlayStation APUs are even further off, with 8 cores each and a GDDR5 IMC. They also use RDNA 2 graphics with 2k+ shaders.
It just sounded of a similar era/generation at first glance and i wondered if they were console parts repurposed (the joys of a modular CPU design)Well to be fair, this 4300G is faster than intel CPU's generations newer than that
Not a website i know well, not many reviews of these CPUs
AMD Ryzen 3 4300G vs Intel Core i7-4770 @ 3.40GHz [cpubenchmark.net] by PassMark Software
The little info i can find puts them ahead of a 3300X, they perform well for the low core count
The Xbox Series X and the PS5 chips have shown up as the 4800S and 4700S, respectively. 8-core Zen 2 chips on a BGA with 16GB GDDR5 and no iGPU.
I kinda want to try out the 4800S, but I don't have the $$$ for a mere curiosity. The 4700S is locked to a few GPU options and starving for PCIe bandwidth.
I don't think any Van Gogh chips from the Steam Deck have been repurposed.