Tuesday, March 28th 2023
AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D Surfaces on SANDRA Database
AMD's hotly anticipated gaming CPU, the Ryzen 7 7800X3D "Zen 4," which launches early-April, is beginning to show up in online benchmark databases. The 8-core/16-thread processor has 64 MB of 3D Vertical Cache, which takes its L3 cache size up to an impressive 96 MB, and total cache up to 104 MB. The chip is showing up on the SiSoftware SANDRA online database, where it was tested on an MSI MEG X670E Ace motherboard. It obtained a score of 395.07 GOPS, with 527.56 GIPS dhrystone INT, 552.04 GIPS dhrystone long; 316 GFLOP/s whetstone single-precision floating point, and 264.71 GFLOP/s whetstone double-precision floating point.
The score puts it at roughly 37% faster than the Ryzen 7 5800X3D "Zen 3," although it's somewhere between its other 8-core "Zen 4" compatriots, the 7700X and 7700. The 7800X3D, much like its predecessor, is expected to perform either on-par or slightly worse than the 7700X in frequency/IPC dependent "lightweight" tasks, but zoom past in cache-favoring workloads such as gaming. Its predecessor, the 5800X3D, beat the fastest Intel processor of its time, the i9-12900K, so the 7800X3D has its task cut out—to beat the i9-13900K in gaming.
Sources:
momomo_us (Twitter), Tom's Hardware, VideoCardz, SiSoftware SANDRA database
The score puts it at roughly 37% faster than the Ryzen 7 5800X3D "Zen 3," although it's somewhere between its other 8-core "Zen 4" compatriots, the 7700X and 7700. The 7800X3D, much like its predecessor, is expected to perform either on-par or slightly worse than the 7700X in frequency/IPC dependent "lightweight" tasks, but zoom past in cache-favoring workloads such as gaming. Its predecessor, the 5800X3D, beat the fastest Intel processor of its time, the i9-12900K, so the 7800X3D has its task cut out—to beat the i9-13900K in gaming.
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www.guru3d.com/news-story/rumor-next-generation-amd-ryzen-8000-desktop-processors-a-surprise-release-in-2023.html
n an unexpected turn of events, hardware manufacturer Gigabyte inadvertently revealed that the next generation of AMD Ryzen desktop processors may be released later this year.
I'd also bet (a small amount of) money on 'Ryzen 8000series' being a cost-optimized (non-)refresh, (almost) strictly for OEMs and ODMs (like the desktop 4000-series Ryzens were; basically mid-gen mobile silicon on desktop).
IIRC, for whatever reason, "8" series anything seems to (often)
-get relegated to OEMs/ODMs (AMD HD 8000s, nV GTX 800s),
-are shortly-lived (Intel 8th Gen Coffee Lake),
-or, are simply skipped (ATI Radeon 8000s).
Probably some weird marketing-standard that I'm not aware of.
Alternatively, AMD could go all out on the numerology and 'relaunch' Zen4 and RNDA3 together as the RX8 (zoom, zoom, zoom) and Ryzen 8
AMD8 with the 8(Eight) spelled out into a stylized infinity symbol, or something. Heck, just call it AMD Infinity Platform
crap. Now that I'm thinking about it, I think my 2nd take is more likely: -Infinity Cache. -Infinity Fabric... I bet their marketing dept. is salivating at the potential. :laugh:
"Its predecessor, the 5800X3D, beat the fastest Intel processor of its time, the i9-12900K, so the 7800X3D has its task cut out—to beat the i9-13900K in gaming."
What are the odds this happening, since the more expensive 7900X3D and 7950X3D can't do that?
How is that again?
In games that are actually CPU limited like Cities Skylines simulation rates. Stellaris/HOI4/EU4 etc sim rates, Factorio, Star Citizen, Civ 6 Turn Time, Path of Exile, WoW, iRacing, MSFS, ACC and so on the differences can be absolutely huge.
7800X3D $450 - beats/ties 13900k (est.) with massive price savings; tailored for gaming only
7900X3D $600 - beats/ties 13900k at slightly higher pricing for those who need more more P cores for productivity combined with gaming
7950X3D $700 - beats/ties 13900k at much higher price for those who need the most P cores for serious productivity combined with gaming
Each customer usage breakdown will vary and there’s a product CPU/GPU combo out there for everyone. Go competition!
PS Product pricing much above $500 are halo products. Its the reason no one and I mean no one speaks about the 13900ks at $729. The 7950X3D would almost qualify but 16 highly efficient P cores with HT is very appealing to many productivity and creative minded folks not to mention the gaming aspect.
There is always a new product just around the corner or maybe you were always going to buy Intel and a rumor about an AMD CPU upgrade helps you with your decision. That’s cool of course. Both companies have good products that are tailored for different usages. I prefer AMD because their P cores have the same power usage as Intel E cores but the performance of Intel P cores. I don’t see any future Intel product that will turn this around.
BTW there is a reason TPU is the gold standard when it comes to hardware reviews. They go the extra mile and then some. Take their power measurements under each application for example:
7950X3D
13900k
While both processors beat or tie each other in performance depending on the application, the power consumption across the vast majority of apps is not even close. Notice the top scale for the AMD graph is 160W and the top scale for the Intel graph is 300W. Its even a bigger efficiency blowout when it comes to games. I’ve not read any rumors that Intel 14th gen will do any better and most likely will be even worse. It’s important to me but maybe not to you. Whatever AMD has around the corner could be even better but they have a great solution now.
If you look at AMD's track record of suppport, AM5 will be around much longer than Intel and their forced upgrade cycles. Its what allowed people with cheap AM4 boards to drop in a 58003D and get as good as current gen Intel performance for the cost of a CPU. AM5 will most likely offer at least 2 generations more of CPU upgrades. TCO with AMD is slightly higher right now due to the cost of motherboards and DDR5, but unless you are aiming for top 2% of gaming performance a generation older hardware will provide all the performance you need.
Zen 5 is 2024 product.Yes. It's much better to release flagship every 2 years. Or better yet move to Intel where you need a new motherboard because new CPU's require a new socket again.Hardly. They use different sockets and memory. 5800X3D was endgame gaming for AM4 and still sells like hotcakes even at 300+ prices.
[SIZE=3][FONT=georgia]ASUS TUF Gaming X670E-Plus.. I really hope there are no hiccups. Other boards seem to run the 7950X3D well. [/FONT][/SIZE]