pressing onIf is interesting to note from the second graphic that this particular Meteor Lake mobile CPU has 18 physical cores. How can that be? Intel has published a diagram of a Meteor Lake (ML) processor as part of the patent application for its L4 (Adamantine) cache. As this diagram (source: Intel plus annotations) shows the L4 cache will be located on the passive (silicon) interposer. The ML tiles or dies as they are called here will be positioned on top of the interposer.



This a 2P + 8E chip. Notice that that are two cores in the SOC, marked as SOC-Cores. These are likely to be the Low Power Efficient (LPE) cores that have been rumoured. So to get 18 cores there are 2 cores on the SOC. That leaves 16. The CPU in the diagram has a 64 EU graphics unit, but the 18 core unit has 192 EUs. This suggests a premium unit, so I think the remaining 16 cores would be configured as 8P + 8E.

The other feature to note is the VPU2.7 - this is Intel's AI Engine. It will face competition from Apple's Neural Engine and AMD's shortly to be introduced Dedicated AI Engine on the 7040 Phoenix processor.

P4-630Why make things more complicated.....

dllm3,5,7,9 is definitely easier

CEO. We need to price higher like nV; their margins are better than ours. Engineers, you need to build faster CPUs.

Engineers. We are struggling with tiktok. We cannot make the CPUs go faster Captain or they will explode.

Marketing. Go faster stripes and RGB, that‘ll work. The kids will love it and pay a premium for rainbow colours.

Engineers. No, you cant see that under a heatsink and fan. And it sounds very BUD to me.

Marketing. Ok. How about a new name like Zoom, whoosh or ultra?

CEO. Is this the best you can do?

Marketing. Yes

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TheLostSwedeBased on various leakers information, meteor lake won't have more than six performance cores.

Vayra86Why would you get a hot quadcore in 2023? There's better bang/buck... surely?

CEO. Ok Marketing, tell me what you did with the $100 million marketing budget this quarter.

Marketing. We spent $50 million on AI technology and MarketingGPT(c). The other $50 million is for the rebranding.

CEO. What did the new MarketingGPT come up with?

Marketing. Ultra.

CEO. Is this the best you can do?

Marketing. Yes

pressing onYes, there are leaks are saying six P cores max. This includes a detailed specs leak for the U, P and H range (not the HX models). As the 18 core CPU in the graphic would be 16 without the 2 SOC-Cores, to have 6 P cores it would need 10 E cores. Intel are doing E cores in multiples of 4, so that doesn't work. The current Raptor Lake (RL) HX range for example includes 6 + 4, 6 + 8, 8 + 8, 8 + 12 and 8 +16 combinations. I can't imagine why - particularly if the Ultra tag is being suggested - Intel would not have Meteor Lake equivalents to its current RL HX chips.

TheLostSwedeI take it you're not aware that patent filings often have misleading information in them? This is to prevent competitors to do what you've done here, guess what future products based around the patent will be like. In a patent, you only have to explain how the thing you're applying for a patent for, works, everything else, can be fake.

pressing onYes of course I am guessing and apparently reliable sources may not be quite what they seem. And some fairly solid rumours turn out to be true, so I could be guessing wrong on those too. Meteor Lake (ML) is slightly different in that Intel made a significant disclosure about it at Hot Chips 34 in August 2022. This includes the slide showing the ML 6 P core mobile processor and I think this slide might be one of the sources of the Meteor Lake is only 6 P cores story. But the 6 P story to me makes no sense if you have the current HX range where most of the processors have 8 P cores.

Vayra86Why would you get a hot quadcore in 2023? There's better bang/buck... surely?

ReadlightGood time to look for used, cheap computer with 7700K