Monday, May 15th 2023
AMD Ryzen 8000 "Granite Ridge" Zen 5 Processor to Max Out at 16 Cores
AMD's next-generation Ryzen 8000 "Granite Ridge" desktop processor based on the "Zen 5" microarchitecture, will continue to top out at 16-core/32-thread as the maximum CPU core-count possible, says a report by PC Games Hardware. The processor will retain the chiplet design of the current Ryzen 7000 "Raphael" processor, with two 8-core "Zen 5" CCDs, and one I/O die. It's very likely that AMD will reuse the same 6 nm client I/O die (cIOD) as "Raphael," just the way it used the same 12 nm cIOD between Ryzen 3000 "Matisse" and Ryzen 5000 "Vermeer;" but with updates that could enable higher DDR5 memory speeds. Each of the up to two "Eldora" Zen 5 CCDs has 8 CPU cores, with 1 MB of dedicated L2 cache per core, and 32 MB of shared L3 cache. The CCDs are very likely to be built on the TSMC 3 nm EUV silicon fabrication process.
Perhaps the most interesting aspect of the PCGH leak would have to be the TDP numbers being mentioned, which continue to show higher-performance SKUs with 170 W TDP, and lower tiers with 65 W TDP. With its CPU core-counts not seeing increases, AMD would bank on not just the generational IPC increase of its "Zen 5" cores, but also max out performance within the power envelope of the new node, by dialing up clock speeds. AMD could ride out 2023 with its Ryzen 7000 "Zen 4" processors on the desktop platform, with "Granite Ridge" slated to enter production only by Q1-2024. The company could update its product stack in the meantime, perhaps even bring the 4 nm "Phoenix" monolithic APU silicon to the Socket AM5 desktop platform. Ryzen 8000 is expected to retain full compatibility with existing Socket AM5, and AMD 600-series chipset motherboards.
Sources:
VideoCardz, PC Games Hardware
Perhaps the most interesting aspect of the PCGH leak would have to be the TDP numbers being mentioned, which continue to show higher-performance SKUs with 170 W TDP, and lower tiers with 65 W TDP. With its CPU core-counts not seeing increases, AMD would bank on not just the generational IPC increase of its "Zen 5" cores, but also max out performance within the power envelope of the new node, by dialing up clock speeds. AMD could ride out 2023 with its Ryzen 7000 "Zen 4" processors on the desktop platform, with "Granite Ridge" slated to enter production only by Q1-2024. The company could update its product stack in the meantime, perhaps even bring the 4 nm "Phoenix" monolithic APU silicon to the Socket AM5 desktop platform. Ryzen 8000 is expected to retain full compatibility with existing Socket AM5, and AMD 600-series chipset motherboards.
119 Comments on AMD Ryzen 8000 "Granite Ridge" Zen 5 Processor to Max Out at 16 Cores
www.amd.com/en/press-releases/2020-10-08-amd-launches-amd-ryzen-5000-series-desktop-processors-the-fastest-gaming
www.amd.com/en/press-releases/2022-08-29-amd-launches-ryzen-7000-series-desktop-processors-zen-4-architecture-theThis gap is thus far the biggest between generations at 22 months and 22 days. But like i said previous gaps are not indications that future generations will come out as late or later. And Zen4 was a big change with new socket, new chipsets, new RAM standard, new IO die and chiplets made on newer processes. A lot of work went into this.
Zen5 is comparatively smaller change as it uses the same socket, possibly no new chipsets, same RAM and only sightly updated IO die with the chiplet receiving the most changes on the architectural level. Also moving from 5nm to 4nm is relatively easy because AMD already has monolithic 4nm chips based on Zen4.
In August 29th 2022 was released only BS. A month later sales. :)
Right now we are ~9 months from Zen4 launch. You're saying we will have to wait additional 18 months from now until November 2024 for some reason.
Just remember that the speedup are linear where the increase in number of processor are exponential.
For heavy computing, Threadripper or EPYC can do the job.
As long as they have a nice IPC boost. And it's probably quite possible. Zen 4 still have a lot of weakness vs Intel and it's still competitive.
The Hype machine started already?
I wonder if there are still people falling for AMDs failed chiplet architecture.
I mean okay i get it that media pushes them hard but after lagfest to lagfest cpu release you would think that people would see through the lies.
Ryzen 5 first predictions: 1 minute pauses during gameplay so the huge L3 caches start to fill
Ground Breaking DDR5 7000 support when DDR5 12000 becomes mainstream
PCIE GEN 5 support and reverse company stance (again) saying that competitions GEN 6 is useless
"Slower by design because eco"
Outrageous prices because "people will support the alternative"
30 minutes boot time
idk how or where ur getting your info from? I have 7800x3d 32gb ddr5 6000 cl36 & 7900xt 20GB ^ 1-2TB gammix S70 Blade gen4 ssds & i have never seen these so called "1 minute pauses during gameplay so the huge L3 caches start to fill" like wtf man? do you even own am5 or better yet even amd am4 or am5 at all or are you just an intel paid fanboi/enthusiast , intel influencer? cuz it sure sounds like it to me! no im not an amd fanboi, i buy what's optimised for in the games i play, but i also dont support scummy companies like nvidia or cheating companies like intel ( aka the amd vs intel suit back in mid 2000s with the intel compiler shenanigan's ( intel cheated) also paid kickbacks to the likes of dell/lenovo/HP or any SI that would take the deal to not use any AMD hardware in their systems!!! thats cheating the market BTW & the only reason why intel had so high market share..... so stfu!
yes i want AMD to win! but i also want intel to get off there @$$3s & also innovate to keep competition with AMD so prices stay low as possible! but this also goes for AMD Radeon also against nvidia. but nvidia has been screwing rtx /gtx owners over for the last 3+ years now (sence at least RTX 3000 launched & selling everything (or 99%) of their products (GPUs mainly) straight to miners in palets..... like wtf! amd prob did it too! not saying they didn't .. but they both screwed us all not selling to gamers & not stopping them! but rtx 40 has been the most disappointing launch ever from nvidia ( my last gpus were evga gtx 1080 8gb hybrid (then a gtx sc2 hybrid 1080ti 11gb & used that until my new 6800xt/6900xt now 7900xt ( iv built for friends/family) amds adrenaline is far superior to NVidias year 2000 control panel (LMMFAO) i mean c'mon, amd driver issues??? iv never had ANY!!!!! ever!!!
oh and intel gfx sux amd is way better than intel, intels igp cant even keep up with a 5600g lol apu haha ha
yeah im sick of scum
Second, At the bottom right corner of every comment, there is a button called "reply". Use that to quote other people's post in a way so that we can see who said what.
Also, choosing an AMD/Intel/Nvidia model name as your user name isn't ideal if you want people to take your opinion seriously (it suggests bias even when there is none).
We will see. I don't have a source for that, I read it a long time ago, so its possible I am remembering wrong.
Yes, I too expected a 10-12 core CCD, or even two variants of silicon. Something like 6 and 10 cores, or 8 and 12 cores.
I'll be ready. Im on a 3700X and the 8000 series is the next chip for my CPU upgrade cycle :D. I hope the X3D versioin will also see a 2024 launch window.
Also, in terms of AI stuff, I would guess the 8000 series would use RDNA3 iGPU which has dedicated AI accelerators. That is one way AMD can deliver on specific AI core specs.
www.techpowerup.com/review/marvel-s-guardians-of-the-galaxy-fsr-2-0-community-patch/
"Speaking of performance, Redfall is a very CPU intensive game, as the CPU usage is mostly single-threaded on PC due to a very poor implementation of Unreal Engine 4 DirectX 12. Especially high-powered GPUs such as the GeForce RTX 4080 can end up CPU bottlenecked in some sequences of the game, even at 4K. We've seen these issues before in other recent Unreal Engine 4 games, such as Star Wars Jedi: Survivor, Hogwarts Legacy or Gotham Knights."
I think the X2 was out may-ish 2005..............one would have thought almost 20 years later (an Age in PC years) everything would have been programmed to at least 4 threads?
Being critical of a company is acceptable and debatable, no need to get excited on a personal level.No doubt, but instead of pushing expiremental technologies on users it's better to wait and do it right.
AMD's chiplets are lovely on specsheets to fill the place with cores as long as latency is hidden under the carpet.
Not that i approve E-cores, but Intel saw that AMD got away with it and got baited into their laggy path.Yeah yeah, so if Intel sucks let's encourage the rest of the industry on the same path right?Of course no one said it!
Here is some food for thought:
Where is the Frametime Analysis section from TPU's reviews gone?? ---EDIT: I merely mention TPU as an example, it is a trend i noticed in many other sites like Tom's Hardware etc.
Wondered why GN was forced to present the full frametime plot for ONLY 2 games before casually returning to bars for the rest of the games in their 7800X3D video?Nice catch, Zen 5 obviously.Your "lol" at the end gives me hope that you got what is obviously a humorus exageration.Intel is already at 8000 in it's current platform which clearly demonstrates that the next socket will easily max the DDR5 frequency range.The article is obviously disscussing future products and given that Intel's platform with Gen 5.0 is EOL points to the logical conclusion that their next Chipset will add Gen 6.0 support.
The same cannot be said for AMD since their current platform's main advantage is the fact it will stay the same for next CPU release, so Gen 5.0 for them.
Nothing too exciting here, it is just the same as the releases always worked.It could be nice if it would translate to actuall lower temperatures and not to an irrelevant annual 10-20 dollars electricity save.Ohh yes! That's the correct mentality!
Introduce crappy performance products, let users beta test it and fix it via patches and workarounds 6 months later!
Works like a charm for the gaming industry let's support it on the Hardware industry too!Nah, don't really like Intel --> my current system is based on 5800X3D which was an upgrade from my previous 7700X but saddly both were a downgrade from my 12700K i had before, wish i had known better...
At least my averages are still great :)
Ryzen 3900X Zen 2 July 7, 2019 ~2.33 years
Ryzen 5950X Zen 3 November 5, 2020 ~1.33 years
Ryzen 7950X Zen 4 September 27 2022 ~1.85 years
Ryzen 9950X Zen 5 July to November 2024 guesstimate
AMD can release Zen 5 whenever they like but historically we are looking at just shy of 2 years average between major releases.
But i would prefer the consumer to win.
It is apparent from your enthousiasm that this is your first high end build so instead of messing with corporate shenanigans like we do, i suggest you go have fun and play Fortnite or whatever makes you happy!
Chill you have an excellent build either way don't let me spoil you.