Thursday, July 13th 2023
Intel Core i5-14600K an 8P+8E Processor, Core i3 6P+0E, Core-Counts of Other SKUs Surface
Intel is planning to aggressively step up CPU core counts of its 14th Gen Core "Raptor Lake Refresh" SKUs over the 13th Gen, to offer more value at given price-points, given that the IPC of these processors aren't seeing an increase, according to a report by RedGamingTech. We already reported that the 14th Gen Core i7 series, such as the i7-14700K, will come with a core-configuration of 8P+12E. It turns out that the Core i5-14600K will witness the first uplift in performance core-counts in over 4 years (since the i5-8600K). These chips will be 8P+8E, which entails 8 "Raptor Cove" Performance cores, and 8 "Gracemont" Efficiency cores. The i5-14600K is, for all intents and purposes, identical to the current Core i7-13700K, but with a touch lower maximum boost clocks, and more importantly, a lower price.
This doesn't mean that the entire 14th Gen Core i5 series has the same 8P+8E configuration. Intel has been sub-segmenting its Core i5 series for a few generations now, and the Core i5-14600K and i5-14600KF will be the only SKUs with 8P+8E. There will likely not be an "i5-14600" (non-K) SKU altogether, to avoid the kind of confusion that emerged between the 13th Gen i5-13600 and i5-13600K (lower L2 cache sizes for the non-K SKU). The Core i5-14500 and Core i5-14400 will be 6P+8E processors. It's likely that Intel will use the newer silicon that gives the P-cores of these two chips 2 MB of L2 cache per core instead of 1.25 MB, and their E-core clusters will each get 4 MB of L2 cache instead of 2 MB.
In a big move that's sure to shake up the entry-level, Intel is planning to give the 14th Gen Core i3 series a much needed core-count increase. These will be 6-core/12-thread processors—that's 6 P-cores, and zero E-cores. In essence, the 14th Gen Core i3 series will resemble the 12th Gen Core i5 non-K series processors that lacked E-cores, but which are still formidable for 1080p and 1440p gaming PC builds on a tight budget.
Lastly, in a piece of bad-ish news, the top-of-the-line 14th Gen Core i9 series will continue to be 8P+16E, just like the 13th Gen. Intel might try to dial up clock speeds of the Core i9-14900K a bit over that of the i9-13900K, but the company has already squeezed the most performance out of this die with the Limited Edition Core i9-13900KS, we doubt the i9-14900K will do any better.
Intel is expected to debut the 14th Gen Core "Raptor Lake Refresh" family in October 2023.
Sources:
RedGamingTech (YouTube), VideoCardz
This doesn't mean that the entire 14th Gen Core i5 series has the same 8P+8E configuration. Intel has been sub-segmenting its Core i5 series for a few generations now, and the Core i5-14600K and i5-14600KF will be the only SKUs with 8P+8E. There will likely not be an "i5-14600" (non-K) SKU altogether, to avoid the kind of confusion that emerged between the 13th Gen i5-13600 and i5-13600K (lower L2 cache sizes for the non-K SKU). The Core i5-14500 and Core i5-14400 will be 6P+8E processors. It's likely that Intel will use the newer silicon that gives the P-cores of these two chips 2 MB of L2 cache per core instead of 1.25 MB, and their E-core clusters will each get 4 MB of L2 cache instead of 2 MB.
Lastly, in a piece of bad-ish news, the top-of-the-line 14th Gen Core i9 series will continue to be 8P+16E, just like the 13th Gen. Intel might try to dial up clock speeds of the Core i9-14900K a bit over that of the i9-13900K, but the company has already squeezed the most performance out of this die with the Limited Edition Core i9-13900KS, we doubt the i9-14900K will do any better.
Intel is expected to debut the 14th Gen Core "Raptor Lake Refresh" family in October 2023.
79 Comments on Intel Core i5-14600K an 8P+8E Processor, Core i3 6P+0E, Core-Counts of Other SKUs Surface
six next-gen P-core configs for a processor really makes you wonder how gaming is going to scale from there upwards. Your starting point is already quite deep into diminishing returns
Is there an ETA for these?Nevermind, it's in the last line in the article.AMD is going to have a HUGE problem when these come out. It will be selling only X3D and 12-16 cores chips. It's 6-8 cores NON X3D chips will be DOA in the market. And how long is AMD going to still rely on AM4 for even having a low-mid range market? If Intel doesn't increase prices, it's going to take 10% of the market back in less than a year.
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I'm not pressured to upgrade my CPU yet but that 14100/14400 looks like something I might just upgrade to as my first and last upgrade in this socket/mobo. 'depends on the price mainly'
It's heterogeneous computing, more complex to implement and use properly. But it puts 4 cores where only 1 big core would fit, so they make sense from a silicon point of view. And, more importantly, it works well overall.
But jokes aside, I agree, except about core sizes. Marketing slides do show 4 E cores being as big as one P core but die shots put the ratio at 1:3 in both ADL and RPL. An E core cluster is 4/3 as wide and equally tall as one P core (without L3 slices). However, some silicon around the E cores remains unrecognised so it may or may not be part of the cores.
Also, with more than 8 threads running, putting additional threads on E cores and avoiding HT results in higher performance than using HT and avoiding the E cores. So people who frown at E cores but are proud of the great HT capabilities in their CPUs might need to rethink this.
How do you cool these chips? :roll:
To politically correct answer is that even mid range air coolers do quite a decent job at controlling the temperature of such chip under any realistic workload
Not that I'm complaining, of course. It just means that anyone that recommends over an i5 for gaming in the future will be shown to not know what they are talking about.