Wednesday, July 19th 2023
RTX 4060 Ti 16GB Marginally Slower than 8GB Model: MSI Testing
MSI Insider Weekly tested an NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 Ti 16 GB graphics card as part of a Live Benchmarking event, where it is shown to be in fact slower than the RTX 4060 Ti 8 GB. This begins to explain why NVIDIA or its board partners weren't too keen on sampling the RTX 4060 Ti 16 GB for reviews. The performance delta between the 16 GB and 8 GB models is within 0.5%, but the 16 GB model is slightly behind the 8 GB in Cyberpunk 2077, F1 23, and Rainbow 6: Siege, all in Ultra (or equivalent settings). The performance is neck-and-neck in Fortnite and Hogwarts Legacy. The only test where the 16 GB variant is ahead is with CS:GO.
Besides the memory size, the RTX 4060 Ti 16 GB has identical specs—core configuration, clock-speeds, power limits, to its 8 GB sibling. One possible explanation for the 16 GB performing slightly worse could be that the higher density 16 GB memory is imposing a slightly higher latency, or having a negligibly higher power draw, but these are all just theory-crafting on our part. The RTX 4060 Ti still has 225 W at its disposal. NVIDIA has proved its point that 16 GB makes no difference to the performance of the RTX 4060 Ti. It's now up to the board partners to sell these cards at a whopping 25% higher price than the 8 GB model. Ideally, NVIDIA could have spruced up the 16 GB variant a little, by enabling all 18 TPCs on the AD106 (the RTX 4060 Ti enables 17); and if the AD106 supports GDDR6X, they should have dialed up memory speed to 21 Gbps.
The MSI Insider video follows.
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Besides the memory size, the RTX 4060 Ti 16 GB has identical specs—core configuration, clock-speeds, power limits, to its 8 GB sibling. One possible explanation for the 16 GB performing slightly worse could be that the higher density 16 GB memory is imposing a slightly higher latency, or having a negligibly higher power draw, but these are all just theory-crafting on our part. The RTX 4060 Ti still has 225 W at its disposal. NVIDIA has proved its point that 16 GB makes no difference to the performance of the RTX 4060 Ti. It's now up to the board partners to sell these cards at a whopping 25% higher price than the 8 GB model. Ideally, NVIDIA could have spruced up the 16 GB variant a little, by enabling all 18 TPCs on the AD106 (the RTX 4060 Ti enables 17); and if the AD106 supports GDDR6X, they should have dialed up memory speed to 21 Gbps.
46 Comments on RTX 4060 Ti 16GB Marginally Slower than 8GB Model: MSI Testing
It has no right carrying the name it does and worse, the price tag....
3060 12GB - 3070ti 8GB
2060 12GB - 2080ti 11GB
except it now has this 128 bit bus it can't keep the memory size at 12. it has to be 8 or 16.
so 4060 Ti is the little 60 class, pretty much like a 1660 Ti that coexisted with the big 60-class 2060.
And the proof of that is, what happens when you double the memory on an RTX 3070
Modded NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 With 16 GB of VRAM Shows Impressive Performance Uplift | TechPowerUp
4060 Ti would have been 10% faster than a 2080 Ti if it only had 192 bit and it would have taken only 12,5 mm2 more die area to add it. But unfortunately 4060 and 4070 are messed up.
Nvidia seem really inflexible on their bus width nonsense.
That bus is just crippling it.
What Nvidia did with 40 series is move the whole stack from 4080 and down, so in others words lower each version to lower one for true feature correct models and then have a card between the 4080 an 4090, there just to big gap there.
In any way, they will try to not give you enough vram or you have to pay ridiculously prices for that (2080Ti, Titan RTX, 3090, 4090).
The 4060Ti with 16GB would be the perfect card for all use cases. But nVidia, correctly, suffocated the memory bandwidth, so if you really need more and efficient vram in a gpu, you still have to pay for a 4070Ti/4080/4090.
Also, nvidia can just change the Ada die layout, make it a bit bigger (in a slightly smaller node or not), increase the bandwidth in every tier and have a brand new 5000 gen.