Wednesday, August 2nd 2023
AMD Confirms New "Enthusiast-class" Radeon 7000-series Graphics Cards This Quarter
AMD CEO Dr Lisa Su, in her Q2-2023 Financial Results call, confirmed that the company will launch new "enthusiast-class" gaming graphics cards within Q3-2023 (any time before October). "In gaming graphics, we expanded our Radeon 7000 GPU series in the second quarter with the launch of our mainstream RX 7600 cards for 1080p gaming. We are on track to further expand our RDNA 3 GPU offerings with the launch of new, enthusiast-class Radeon 7000 series cards in the third quarter," she stated.
There are two distinct possibilities of what "enthusiast class" entails. The first and most obvious one, could be the introduction of the RX 7800 series, including the RX 7800 XT, which is expected to closely resemble the limited-edition RX 7900 GRE by the specs; but a less talked-about possibility could even be the RX 7950 series. In its testing, the RX 7900 GRE was found to offer raster 3D performance comparable to the previous-generation RX 6950 XT although with better ray tracing performance on account of improved Ray Accelerators, which would put it behind the GeForce RTX 4070 Ti that AMD is trying to compete with. This should mean that for AMD to have a compelling "RX 7800 XT" product, it should perform faster than the RX 7900 GRE (possible through higher clock speeds or a few more CU).
The Radeon RX 7950 series is an exercise at significantly shoring up performance over the RX 7900 series, by increasing clock speeds and power limits. AMD is probably hoping for the RX 7950 XTX to take a swing at the performance crown held by the RTX 4090, while the RX 7950 XT could get a little closer to the performance of the RTX 4080. The current RX 7900 XT already beats the RTX 4070 Ti.
The announcement could also be a hint at the likelihood of mobile versions of the RX 7900 series, given that AMD has already developed the mobile-friendly package that's found powering the desktop RX 7900 GRE. This package is physically smaller than the regular "Navi 31," has lower Z-height, and is hence optimized for notebooks. Its lower pin-count could indicate a narrower 256-bit wide GDDR6 memory bus, and fewer power pins to go with the lower power-limits.
Sources:
AMD Investor Relations, VideoCardz
There are two distinct possibilities of what "enthusiast class" entails. The first and most obvious one, could be the introduction of the RX 7800 series, including the RX 7800 XT, which is expected to closely resemble the limited-edition RX 7900 GRE by the specs; but a less talked-about possibility could even be the RX 7950 series. In its testing, the RX 7900 GRE was found to offer raster 3D performance comparable to the previous-generation RX 6950 XT although with better ray tracing performance on account of improved Ray Accelerators, which would put it behind the GeForce RTX 4070 Ti that AMD is trying to compete with. This should mean that for AMD to have a compelling "RX 7800 XT" product, it should perform faster than the RX 7900 GRE (possible through higher clock speeds or a few more CU).
The announcement could also be a hint at the likelihood of mobile versions of the RX 7900 series, given that AMD has already developed the mobile-friendly package that's found powering the desktop RX 7900 GRE. This package is physically smaller than the regular "Navi 31," has lower Z-height, and is hence optimized for notebooks. Its lower pin-count could indicate a narrower 256-bit wide GDDR6 memory bus, and fewer power pins to go with the lower power-limits.
102 Comments on AMD Confirms New "Enthusiast-class" Radeon 7000-series Graphics Cards This Quarter
Why I am saying it? Because AMD is not really in a hurry to come out with these new RDNA3 cards. Maybe they are not better than 6000 series or even worst in some cases (video playback power usage), maybe they are more expensive to produce offering nothing new really in performance, maybe there are still too many 6000 cards in the market. We all have speculated those reasons. But what if they KNOW they have time? What if they know that Nvidia will greatly decelerate gaming cards development? We see low end graphics cards that are 10 years or more old to keep selling in the market. Who says that we will keep getting a TRUE new architecture every 2 years? In the past we where expecting a new architecture every year, even sooner than that. Now we are at a 2 years circle. Who says we can't go to 4 years circle with a simple refresh in the middle of that period?
no proper dedicated raytracing units (strong reliance on shaders and an anemic cache hierarchy to feed it)
refusal to apply GDDR6X and instead rely on relatively slow last level cache
and the cherry on the cake, cant even hit target clock speeds outside of certain compute scenarios
RDNA3 is a veritable dud and at this point i wish AMD would sell the graphics division to Apple or something to ensure the IP and engineering legacy isnt wasted
They'll still be 1k ish though probably so doa commercially imo.
Maybe they fixed the software issues finally!
"Help me, Intel. You're my only hope." :D
It's like nVidia and AMD don't care (that much) anymore...
I mean, sure, the 4090 is a great card, BUT the price... You can buy a used petrol VW Polo from 2007 with that money... Just doesn't feel right...
Maybe the original rumored multi GPU die package ?
2 x 96 CU , runs in 2 GHz ?
Like I said said previous times AMD should really start browsing tech forums because clearly this is were all the chip designer prodigy geniuses dwell.
AMD really should start charging an arm and a leg like Nvidia there is no reason not to, people still clown on them from being too expensive even though they've literally always had the better perf/dollar.
4060 -> 5050 (~250€)
maxed out AD106 -> 5060 (<400€)
4070 -> 5060TI (~450€)
4070TI -> 5070 (>500€)
...
I could compare today's generation to ATI 4000 and GTX 200 series in terms of perf/price but it would be totally worthless unless it's adjusted to how prices have changed since then.