Tuesday, September 5th 2023
Official AMD Radeon RX 7800 XT & RX 7700 XT Performance Figures Leaked
Argentina's HD Tecnología site has obtained and published AMD's official data outlining the performance prowess of the soon-to-be released Radeon RX 7800 XT & RX 7700 XT GPUs, when stacked up against their closest rivals—NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 Ti 16 GB and RTX 4070 12 GB. Team Red could have "cherry-picked" some of this information, and presented resultant performance charts during the grand unveiling of their mid-range RDNA 3 cards at last month's Gamescom press event. HD Tecnología claims that the fuzzy batch of screengrabs were obtained from an official review guide, they chose to not share pages containing precise details of system specifications. An embargo imposed on media outlets is set to be lifted tomorrow, which coincides with the launch of AMD's Navi 32-based contenders.
The test system was running games within a DirectX 12 environment, possibly at maximum settings—general hardware specs included an non-specific AMD Ryzen 7000-series CPU coupled with DDR5 memory on unidentified AM5 motherboard. VideoCardz's abbreviated analysis of the numbers stated: "In summary, without ray tracing, the Radeon RX 7800 XT outperforms the GeForce RTX 4070 by almost 7% on average, while with ray tracing enabled, it maintains a slight 0.5% lead. Conversely, the RX 7700 XT exhibits 16% higher performance over the RTX 4060 Ti 16 GB. However, the presence of ray tracing can tip the scales slightly in NVIDIA's favor, resulting in an 8.5% lead over the AMD GPU."
Here is a VideoCardz-produced summation of these figures:
Radeon RX 7800 XT 16 GB versus RTX 4070 12 GB
Sources:
HDTecnologia, Wccftech, VideoCardz, Tom's Hardware
The test system was running games within a DirectX 12 environment, possibly at maximum settings—general hardware specs included an non-specific AMD Ryzen 7000-series CPU coupled with DDR5 memory on unidentified AM5 motherboard. VideoCardz's abbreviated analysis of the numbers stated: "In summary, without ray tracing, the Radeon RX 7800 XT outperforms the GeForce RTX 4070 by almost 7% on average, while with ray tracing enabled, it maintains a slight 0.5% lead. Conversely, the RX 7700 XT exhibits 16% higher performance over the RTX 4060 Ti 16 GB. However, the presence of ray tracing can tip the scales slightly in NVIDIA's favor, resulting in an 8.5% lead over the AMD GPU."
Radeon RX 7800 XT 16 GB versus RTX 4070 12 GB
- Raster: +6.9%
- Ray tracing: -11.6%
- Average: +0.5%
- Raster: +15.9%
- Ray tracing: -5.4%
- AVG: +8.5%
67 Comments on Official AMD Radeon RX 7800 XT & RX 7700 XT Performance Figures Leaked
Interesting to see how performance degrades as RT is used more intensively.
And a rx7800 (500us) which should be around 700 Canadian…
so if need artificial intelligence you pay 160 extra…… lol
Well look at that, it looks like Vader escaped to Argentina and is going by the handle"Emiliano"
Voilá! You know how RT affects RDNA3 performance with at least 99% accuracy.
These cards should sell well. I just wonder why AMD is launching them so late.
RDNA3 offers no RT uplift. The only reason they perform better at RT is they have more horsepowers in general.
Basically, you're correct because RTX 3090 doesn't fall so short.
Actually, you're incorrect because the reason why RTX 3090 has more RT proficiency is more stuff under the bonnet, not more quality of said stuff.
RDNA3 has more computing units, more VRAM speed, more VRAM bandwidth, higher clocks, higher cache speed etc compared to RDNA2, yet if RDNA2 and RDNA3 GPUs show us identical results without RT, they will also show identical results with RT (or RDNA3 will even be behind due to pre-alpha stage of chiplet architecture, much similar to 1st gen Ryzen CPUs which had a disasterpiece of latencies).
It only can be considered a real deal if FPS loss decreased which is not the case for the majority of games.
RX 7800 XT will have give or take ten percent identical results to 6800 XT's in RT, unless Navi 32 has better RT units than the rest of RDNA.
chipsandcheese.com/2023/01/07/microbenchmarking-amds-rdna-3-graphics-architecture/
Just an example for a in-depth read. But you can also read the architecture page here on the 7900 XTX review for example. 50% more rays in flight, up to 80% with other improvements combined.
27 FPS in 7800 XT (unknown testing method) VS 23.7 FPS in 6800 XT (TPU's testing method). 23.7 is about 85% of 27.
These are tests without RT:
94 FPS in RDNA3, which has been tested no one knows how, and 76 FPS in RDNA2, tested by W1zzard himself.
94 is 124% of 76.
27 is 113% of 23.7.
So we have a GPU which has 24% uplift RT off and only sorry 13% uplift RT on. This, if you didn't know, is called regression.
In your latest post you're of course using the one game that is optimised for Nvidia and runs terrible on RDNA 3 to try and make your moot point. But obviously you're still wrong. Go and look at other games.
I'm outta here.
RX 6650 XT 2048 shaders at 2410 MHz | 2635 MHz | 2190 MHz | 100%
RX 7600 2048 shaders at 2250 MHz | 2655 MHz | 2250 MHz | 101%
Game clock looks reduced by 7%, but memory clock is increased by 3%. Overall you get the same performance, in the area of the statistical error.
This is in no way 17.5% higher performance everything same.
Exact same amount of shaders as 6600 XT yet easily faster. Just an example.
www.techpowerup.com/review/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4080-founders-edition/34.html
Too bad that raw RT performance is still higher and thus his claims still make zero sense.
4K, +2.3%:
1440p, 1.8%:
1080p, 3.2%:
www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-radeon-rx-7600/31.htmlThis is cherry picking.
I am not going to play the newest games because someone from AMD claims that it has specific optimisations only in them.
It's ridiculous cherry picing to prove your own agenda.