Thursday, January 11th 2024
Feast Your Eyes on These NVIDIA GeForce RTX 40-series SUPER Cards, We'll Be Reviewing Most of These
We were at NVIDIA's CES booth earlier today, and snapped a constellation of brand new GeForce RTX 40-series SUPER graphics cards, waiting to hit the shelves, starting January 17. The RTX 4070 SUPER, RTX 4070 Ti SUPER, and RTX 4080 SUPER, will form the bulwark of NVIDIA's premium GeForce RTX product line, and will see the company through for much of 2024. If you're building a premium 1440p or 4K UHD gaming PC for the Spring-Summer, you might want to check out our reviews. We have close to three dozen custom design graphics card reviews lined up just this month!'
We already went hands on with the RTX 4080 SUPER Founders Edition yesterday at the iBUYPOWER booth, we caught another one of these on display, next to the RTX 4070 SUPER FE. There won't be an RTX 4070 Ti SUPER FE, which will be a custom-only launch. Every single NVIDIA board partner that sells in the West had their models on display at the booth, spanning all three of the new GPUs.
These included Colorful with their iGame Ultra W, PNY with their Velocity-X, Verto, and XLR8.
ZOTAC with their Trinity Black series, and Palit with their JetStream series.
MSI with their Ventus 3X and Ventus 2X series; and Inno3D with their X3 and Twin X2 series.
GIGABYTE with their Eagle, Aero, and Gaming OC series; and GALAX with their 1-click OC, EX Gamer, and SP series.
Gainward with their Ghost and Panther series; and ASUS with their DUAL and TUF Gaming series.
Lastly, some more pics of the Founders Edition cards. These things are jewellery.
We already went hands on with the RTX 4080 SUPER Founders Edition yesterday at the iBUYPOWER booth, we caught another one of these on display, next to the RTX 4070 SUPER FE. There won't be an RTX 4070 Ti SUPER FE, which will be a custom-only launch. Every single NVIDIA board partner that sells in the West had their models on display at the booth, spanning all three of the new GPUs.
45 Comments on Feast Your Eyes on These NVIDIA GeForce RTX 40-series SUPER Cards, We'll Be Reviewing Most of These
Prices aren't wildly jacked, they actually came down, the 4080S's $999 MSRP reflects that. The days we'd buy top-end flagships for $650 are long gone and they aren't coming back. GPUs have evolved since that and cost more to manufacture than they did back in the day. I'm sure that Nvidia can lower their prices a little further but for that to happen we first need some actual heat coming from AMD.
Super slick design, aluminium body & vapor chamber cooling. Really looking forward to noise & cooling performance numbers.
Nvidia priced the original Ada cards very high, and It certainly wasn't because It cost that much more to manufacture them.
Just look what are the prices of these Super cards. I see solid ~15% improvement in perf/$ while AMD is still not very competitive.
Honestly if I had to pick I'd still opt for FE instead of MSI since FE would be priced at the reference MSRP.
I’m more interested in why there are no budget cards below the 4060 and why there isn’t a fully unlocked model 4090 Ti at 18,176 CUDA cores.
They have done the same during cryptomadness, suddenly all the sectors - Automotive, Professional Visualization, Data Center, all showed an increase in revenue, and then sudden fall when the crypto inevitably crashed. They were even sued by shareholders for falsifying data, but were found innocent by court, of course.
Although I have heard comments that the street price of base models in US is now about $1100, so the discount might be a bit dissapointing, especially if the rumors about limited manufacturing capabilities due to Nvidia's focus on AI are true. We might even see increased prices compared to non-Super models, explained by low stock.
And you don't gotta worry about your connector melting... so thats always a plus. I kinda felt... forced into the 4090, I know that sounds stupid. But I had just been burned by the 3070s 8gb vram, so vram was top of my mind. I was not impressed with 4070s performance... the 4080 seemed like a spit in the face... so I just... went right for the top.... even though I didn't really need it. Oh well. first world problems I guess :PYou know, its an improvement, and I think we should give credit where credit is due. Don't forget, this is still their side gig at the moment.
However, no 12GB card will do 4K maxed out with RT. Even 4070 Ti SUPER, 7900XT, 4080, 7900XTX and 4080 SUPER won't max out the most demanding games at 4K with RT. GPU is too weak. Even 4090 struggles in some games and it will only get worse. VRAM won't save it at all.
Most games (engines) allocate a given percentage of VRAM. People look at GPUs with 20-24 GB VRAM, seeing memory usage at 14-16-18GB and think a 12GB card will be in trouble, they won't. It's all allocation. More VRAM = Higher allocation. Just like system RAM.
Avatar is one of the best looking games ever and don't even use 8GB at 4K/UHD maxed out -> www.techpowerup.com/review/avatar-fop-performance-benchmark/6.html
I expect 12GB VRAM to be enough till 9th gen Console Gen in 2028. Absolutely nothing suggests otherwise and 95% of PC gamers use 1440p or less on top of this. PS5 and XSX have 16GB shared RAM in total. Even the most demanding games on PS5 and XSX barely uses 8GB for graphics.
I did not buy 4090 for 24GB. I know its pointless. I bought it for the GPU power and I will be buying 5090 on release anyway, just like most will upgrade every gen or every other gen too, meaning it don't make sense to try and futureproof a weak GPU with tons of VRAM, because the GPU will be the limiting factor anyway.
Just look at 3090/3090Ti today. 24GB of VRAM yet GPU is struggling hard to keep up in AAA games at 4K, forcing people to lower details and then VRAM requirement drops as well. This is why 4070 Ti beats both of them, at least in 3440x1440 or lower, which again most PC gamers are using. At 4K/UHD tho, 4070 Ti still beat 3090 in most games or performs on par with half the power usage.
You don't buy a 4070 Ti for 4K gaming tho. 7900XTX, 4080 or even better, 4090, is the only cards that will do well in demanding AAA games here.
4070 Ti with its 12GB easy beats 6900XT 16GB and 3090 24GB at 4K gaming overall.
A friend of mine picked up 4070 Ti like 10 months ago by now, for 600 dollars. He uses 1440p/240Hz and got 3090 Ti performance for less than 1/3 the price (3090 Ti MSRP was 1999 dollars) and with half the power. He is more than satisfied and it will easily last him till 5000 or 6000 series. Not a single game has issues with 12GB at 1440p, completely maxed out, RT or not.
Its funny how people think you need 16-24GB VRAM to play AAA games on PC. Like 80-90% of users on Steam have 8GB tops and developers knows it. Just slamming games on Ultra enables tons of crap like motion blur, dof etc. that makes VRAM requirement go up but makes game look worse. If you actually tweak settings correctly, 12GB VRAM is more than plenty, even for the 1-2% of PC gamers that use 4K/UHD. GPU power is more important, because you CAN and SHOULD always optimize settings manually which will lower VRAM usage. Most games today looks pretty much identical on high and ultra anyway. Hell even medium/high many times look CLEANER than ultra because of less BLUR and DOF etc. Horrible.
UE5 Engine eats alot of VRAM in general but will get more and more optimized (as devs will actually learn how to optimize and code correctly which will LOWER VRAM requirement going forward). Nanite and Lumen improvements/optimizations. UE5 was a VRAM hog on release and this already improved alot, only going to get even better.
So yeah, I don't get why people try and futureproof with VRAM :laugh: Literally waste of money for most people. By the time 24GB is actually USEFUL for GAMING, 4090 will be slow as dirt and not able to max out games anyway. You are better off buying a CHEAPER GPU and UPGRADE MORE OFTEN, this way, GPU power will actually FOLLOW and VRAM will go up as it is required + POWER ENVELOPE improves on top.
I guess you could justify 16GB for 3440x1440 and 4K/UHD but any GPU today with 16GB will be slow when it will matter really.
Alan Wake 2 on max settings with PT is like the only game that can max out 12GB at VRAM AFAIR, yet not even 4090 does it well because GPU is struggling hard. Tried it, even my 4090 which performs like 10% better than stock a 4090 is not putting out the frame I want, yet VRAM usage is 18GB or so. On a 16GB card, it would probably be 13-14GB.
Engines that just allocate a given percentage of VRAM usually takes 80% or 90% of all VRAM available. Pretty much all COD games eats 80-90% of VRAM. Has nothing to do with VRAM requirement.