Really curious to try out that Hunt game.

Farming Simulator crash.... I'll pass on these...

JK.

Tomorrowwww.techspot.com/news/104113-nvidia-driver-update-causes-bsod-older-windows-pcs.html

didn't even know you could use w10/11 on core 2 duo.

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GeForce 560.81 WHQL Driver Download & Discussion

KlemcFinal Fantasy 16 profile !?

GeForce 560.81 WHQL Driver Download & Discussion

Well damn. We've been waiting for a PC port too long already.

Tomorrowwww.techspot.com/news/104113-nvidia-driver-update-causes-bsod-older-windows-pcs.html

Intentional and documented

nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/5554/~/eol-windows-driver-support-for-older-cpus-without-popcnt-instruction

Funny how a 3.5Trillion USD company is too callous and greedy not to support their drivers for older CPUs, just because. This is the best proof that they do not care at all of their users, just for the profits.

Prima.VeraFunny how a 3.5Trillion USD company is too callous and greedy not to support their drivers for older CPUs, just because. This is the best proof that they do not care at all of their users, just for the profits.

Oh, come on! POPCNT was introduced with AMD K10 in 2007, and Intel first implemented them in Nehalem back in 2008. We're in 2024! It is perfectly acceptable for a driver to be optimized to the point it requires an instruction set introduced 17 years ago. Programmers are not magicians, you can't expect them to support old garbage forever and extract more performance out of modern hardware through software optimizations.

This literally just takes the Core 2 out of the equation, if POPCNT is all that's needed it's still gonna work on grandpa's Phenom 9600 rig

POPCNT will be deprecated in Win11 24H2 anyway, so whether Nvidia supports it or not is relevant only to Win10 users who are on one of the extended support builds or buy the extra 3 years of support.

TomorrowPOPCNT will be deprecated in Win11 24H2 anyway, so whether Nvidia supports it or not is relevant only to Win10 users who are on one of the extended support builds or buy the extra 3 years of support.

Deprecated? No, it's actually becoming a base requirement for the Windows kernel to work

Dr. DroDeprecated? No, it's actually becoming a base requirement for the Windows kernel to work

Yeah i got it mixed up for some reason.

Dr. DroOh, come on! POPCNT was introduced with AMD K10 in 2007, and Intel first implemented them in Nehalem back in 2008. We're in 2024! It is perfectly acceptable for a driver to be optimized to the point it requires an instruction set introduced 17 years ago. Programmers are not magicians, you can't expect them to support old garbage forever and extract more performance out of modern hardware through software optimizations.

This literally just takes the Core 2 out of the equation, if POPCNT is all that's needed it's still gonna work on grandpa's Phenom 9600 rig

Yet still grandpa can get the latest drivers :laugh:



Personally having issues with these drivers, getting into any Windows doesn't work. Need to roll back to the previous ones.

Dr. DroOh, come on! POPCNT was introduced with AMD K10 in 2007, and Intel first implemented them in Nehalem back in 2008. We're in 2024! It is perfectly acceptable for a driver to be optimized to the point it requires an instruction set introduced 17 years ago. Programmers are not magicians, you can't expect them to support old garbage forever and extract more performance out of modern hardware through software optimizations.

This literally just takes the Core 2 out of the equation, if POPCNT is all that's needed it's still gonna work on grandpa's Phenom 9600 rig

No is not. That CPU is perfectly capable on running Win10 for mundane tasks such as watching youtube videos, browsing news web sites, or playing Zooma with a gtx 780 Video card. And no, the CPU is not garbage if it can perform all those tasks flawlessly.
There are some people who are not brainwashed cultists, like the Apple ones, changing their phones every 1 or 2 years, not because they need it, but because they just want to show off. Guess again, if a PC is working fine, why do you need to change it?

Prima.VeraNo is not. That CPU is perfectly capable on running Win10 for mundane tasks such as watching youtube videos, browsing news web sites, or playing Zooma with a gtx 780 Video card. And no, the CPU is not garbage if it can perform all those tasks flawlessly.
There are some people who are not brainwashed cultists, like the Apple ones, changing their phones every 1 or 2 years, not because they need it, but because they just want to show off. Guess again, if a PC is working fine, why do you need to change it?

Then don't change it, just don't complain something is no longer supported as you're holding back the rest of the world by demanding support for it.

Prima.VeraNo is not. That CPU is perfectly capable on running Win10 for mundane tasks such as watching youtube videos, browsing news web sites, or playing Zooma with a gtx 780 Video card. And no, the CPU is not garbage if it can perform all those tasks flawlessly.
There are some people who are not brainwashed cultists, like the Apple ones, changing their phones every 1 or 2 years, not because they need it, but because they just want to show off. Guess again, if a PC is working fine, why do you need to change it?

GTX 780's drivers have been retired for some time and will not stop working, this is not a bug, and it does not retroactively apply. Kepler security updates are only patched release 470 drivers (currently 475.14, I believe), the code base of which are many years old now. Even if you have a Maxwell card, just stay on drivers older than release 555 series and you'll not have a problem. An ancient system running an obsolete OS does not need updates to just browse the news or play YouTube videos.

In simpler words, this doesn't and will never affect your use case, ever

RuruPersonally having issues with these drivers, getting into any Windows doesn't work. Need to roll back to the previous ones.

Yup, it can! Just Intel's Core 2 chips can't. These are positively jurassic by now. It's a total non-issue.

Shame to hear about your issue, must be unrelated, though. Only Ampere I have left is my laptop's 3050 and it's working OK with Zen 3 (5600H) on Win10. No issues on my Intel desktop with the 4080 either.

Dr. DroShame to hear about your issue, must be unrelated, though. Only Ampere I have left is my laptop's 3050 and it's working OK with Zen 3 (5600H) on Win10. No issues on my Intel desktop with the 4080 either.

For example I couldn't open any Windows settings or anything. Rolled back to the 560.70 drivers and works again. :)

RuruFor example I couldn't open any Windows settings or anything. Rolled back to the 560.70 drivers and works again. :)

I wonder if you have driver store corruption? Try the Studio build if you're running Game Ready. I use Studio on my laptop

Dr. DroI wonder if you have driver store corruption? Try the Studio build if you're running Game Ready. I use Studio on my laptop

Nah, I'm fine. Usually I install about every third driver version anyway.

RuruNah, I'm fine. Usually I install about every third driver version anyway.

True, I guess unless you play farming simulator 2022 you will be ok anyway

Prima.VeraFunny how a 3.5Trillion USD company is too callous and greedy not to support their drivers for older CPUs, just because. This is the best proof that they do not care at all of their users, just for the profits.

This isn't "proof" of that by any stretch of imagination. This crash was an ancient Core 2 Duo on an old Win10 system. How long should a GPU company assure compatibility with an ancient CPU that 0.00000001% people might use with a dedicated GPU on an old OS?

Anyway, new drivers working perfect for me.

Keep it on topic.
Stop the insults... discuss the topic civilly.