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Rumored Cinebench R23 Scores Shows Improved Performance for Upcoming AMD Ryzen 9000X3D CPUs

Oct 4th, 2024 16:11 Discuss (31 Comments)

A new rumor circulating via VideoCardz reveals alleged Cinebench R23 rendering scores for the upcoming AMD Ryzen 9 9800X3D CPU series. The lineup supposedly includes 8-core, 12-core, and 16-core models, all featuring Zen5 architecture and 3D V-Cache technology. The leak consists of Cinebench R23 benchmark scores, however, there are no screenshots, so it should be treated with caution as it comes from CodeCommando, a relatively new source with only one verified leak to his name—the Ryzen 9000 slides that emerged shortly before AMD's official announcement.

Comparing the results posted from CodeCommando with TechPowerUp review data of the previous generation, the picture presents itself in a promising way for the upcoming AMD CPUs. The Ryzen 9 9950X3D is around 10% faster in single-core and 17% faster in multi-core compared with Ryzen 9 7950X3D, while Ryzen 7 9800X3D seems to be 20% faster in single-core and 28% faster in multi-core than Ryzen 7 7800X3D. These initial benchmark results show notable performance gains for the 8-core SKU, with both X3D models demonstrating higher multi-core scores than their non-X3D counterparts. While the 9800X3D shows slightly lower single-core performance than the 8-core 9700X, it exceeds the 9700X in multi-core tests. This multi-core advantage likely comes from a higher TDP, though specific power specifications haven't been revealed yet.

Sources: Videocardz, CodeCommander

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31 Comments on Rumored Cinebench R23 Scores Shows Improved Performance for Upcoming AMD Ryzen 9000X3D CPUs

TumbleGeorge

When we talk rumours vs rumours... last rumours for Arrow lake said that Intel not need to worry about competition from any ZEN 5 including x3d.

Cheeseball

Not a Potato

The scores could pass as true as those are similar differences between the 7700X and the 7800X3D along with the 7950X and its X3D variant. This is Cinebench so it doesn't really rely on the extra cache that much compared to games.

anonuser57

So, the uplifts in cinebench of the 9000X3D CPUs over the 7000x3d CPUs will be in line with what we saw for the non-X3D equivalents. That leak basically tells us nothing.

Gucky

Those numbers could be a 9700X with 105W/120W TDP.
Same with 9950X.

phanbuey

I wish they would just release these already. These rumors and fake hype is partially what made Zen 5 look so bad to begin with.

oxrufiioxo

phanbueyI wish they would just release these already. These rumors and fake hype is partially what made Zen 5 look so bad to begin with.

People mostly only care about how these perform in gaming until they are relased we will see all kinds of BS rumors cuz clicks.....

AusWolf

They're gaming CPUs, so let's wait for reviews with gaming benchmarks before jumping to conclusions.

Quicks

Any rumours about AMD performance I will treat with caution. They love to over exaggerate their products performance.

AusWolf

QuicksAny rumours about AMD performance I will treat with caution. They love to over exaggerate their products performance.

That's true of any company, not just AMD. Only 3rd-party reviews of reputable sources, such as TPU are valid information. The rest is just sensationalist gibber-jabber.

#10

SL2

CheeseballThe scores could pass as true as those are similar differences between the 7700X and the 7800X3D along with the 7950X and its X3D variant.

No, the previous 3D models were slower in R23 because of slower clock speeds than the regular models.

#11

gffermari

Specifically for the 9800X3D, I couldn’t care less about the cinebench scores. It’s all about numbers in gaming.
No one cares if they increase the frequency or the cache or put ketchup in it as long as it delivers +15-20% more than the king.

If they deliver that, then I’m jumping to AM5.

#12

freeagent

Of course they care, you can look at what you want and be satisfied.. the rest of us are curious.

#13

x4it3n

I really wonder how high we'll be able to overclock those ZEN 5 3D chips ! If the 9800X3D can have the same clocks as a 9950X3D then the 9950X3D would become almost useless for Gaming, unless it packs 2x 3D V-Cache ?! Haha. I might go for the 9800X3D and then wait for ZEN 6 3D (16c/32t) on 1 CCD + 3D V-Cache, that would become the Golden chip we're all waiting for!

#14

Minus Infinity

gffermariSpecifically for the 9800X3D, I couldn’t care less about the cinebench scores. It’s all about numbers in gaming.
No one cares if they increase the frequency or the cache or put ketchup in it as long as it delivers +15-20% more than the king.

If they deliver that, then I’m jumping to AM5.

I care a lot less about gaming scores. 9700X is plenty fast enough for gaming IMO, v-cache's effects are limited and many games at 1440p+ see little benefit other than in 1% lows and if you play at 4K it's largely irrelevant as you're gpu bound. If 9800X3D is as strong for productivity that's more important to me as I get to have my cake and eat it too.

#15

terroralpha

do i need the 9950x3d? no

am i going to upgrade my 7950x3d anyway? yes.

#16

Neo_Morpheus

Minus InfinityI care a lot less about gaming scores. 9700X is plenty fast enough for gaming IMO, v-cache's effects are limited and many games at 1440p+ see little benefit other than in 1% lows and if you play at 4K it's largely irrelevant as you're gpu bound. If 9800X3D is as strong for productivity that's more important to me as I get to have my cake and eat it too.

But but but every youtube influencer trashed Zen 5 as a whole, so I must repeat what they said and call it trash!!

/s

I honestly don't understand this sheep mentality.

I said it it then and repeat it now, the reviewers using Linux showed us a way different scenario than Windows and after that, clearly, something with windows was just not working correctly with Zen 5.

That said, I have never seen the need to upgrade from one gen to another, I normally upgrade every 2 gens or so, like now, I currently have a 5600X (Zen 3), so I might upgrade.

And the reason why its not the gen uplift, but really because I need more ram and cores and makes no sense to do it on my current platform, so new "everything" its more reasonable.

#17

x4it3n

Neo_MorpheusBut but but every youtube influencer trashed Zen 5 as a whole, so I must repeat what they said and call it trash!!

/s

I honestly don't understand this sheep mentality.

I said it it then and repeat it now, the reviewers using Linux showed us a way different scenario than Windows and after that, clearly, something with windows was just not working correctly with Zen 5.

That said, I have never seen the need to upgrade from one gen to another, I normally upgrade every 2 gens or so, like now, I currently have a 5600X (Zen 3), so I might upgrade.

And the reason why its not the gen uplift, but really because I need more ram and cores and makes no sense to do it on my current platform, so new "everything" its more reasonable.

There is definitely a problem with ZEN 5 on Windows! I think ZEN 5 will be a decent upgrade once Microsoft really patch Windows (11 and 10 too since it could be optimized for better scheduling and other things)

#18

AusWolf

Neo_MorpheusI said it it then and repeat it now, the reviewers using Linux showed us a way different scenario than Windows and after that, clearly, something with windows was just not working correctly with Zen 5.

That said, I have never seen the need to upgrade from one gen to another, I normally upgrade every 2 gens or so, like now, I currently have a 5600X (Zen 3), so I might upgrade.

And the reason why its not the gen uplift, but really because I need more ram and cores and makes no sense to do it on my current platform, so new "everything" its more reasonable.

This! The people who cry about Zen 5 not being much of an uplift over Zen 4 clearly don't understand its purpose. If you're upgrading from a R5 3600, the 9700X will give you better efficiency, and slightly better performance than a 7700X would. There's no point upgrading from a 7700X, though. If one is on a relatively new platform and wants to waste some money, they'd better do it on a GPU.

#19

gffermari

Minus InfinityI care a lot less about gaming scores. 9700X is plenty fast enough for gaming IMO, v-cache's effects are limited and many games at 1440p+ see little benefit other than in 1% lows and if you play at 4K it's largely irrelevant as you're gpu bound. If 9800X3D is as strong for productivity that's more important to me as I get to have my cake and eat it too.

9800X3D, like 7800X3D and 5800X3D, is not meant to perform well for productivity. All of them are worthless in productivity tasks compared to any other processor in the same price.
It's the trade off we accept in order to gain an advantage in gaming conditions. And we are all happy with it. Even if it comes with one core/one thread, no one would care if it's 50% better than the king.

You look the wrong processor for productivity.
The 7900X3D, 7950X3D are the ones for you. A minimal trade off for both gaming and productivity but excellent in both.

#20

Daven

Neo_MorpheusBut but but every youtube influencer trashed Zen 5 as a whole, so I must repeat what they said and call it trash!!

/s

I honestly don't understand this sheep mentality.

I said it it then and repeat it now, the reviewers using Linux showed us a way different scenario than Windows and after that, clearly, something with windows was just not working correctly with Zen 5.

That said, I have never seen the need to upgrade from one gen to another, I normally upgrade every 2 gens or so, like now, I currently have a 5600X (Zen 3), so I might upgrade.

And the reason why its not the gen uplift, but really because I need more ram and cores and makes no sense to do it on my current platform, so new "everything" its more reasonable.

The other problem is understanding the data from the mix of application benchmarks. Most TPU readers go to the summary page and read that Zen 5 is only 4% faster than Zen 4. But the summary page is a meaningless average of the subjectively picked benchmarks by W1zzard. This graph is more relevant from the data set:

Just a few apps are bringing down the average. A decision to buy should be made based on the ‘actual’ apps that you use and not the average of a bunch of apps some of which you never use.

Also what happened with Powerpoint? A 15% regression? Zen 4 and 5 have the same cores and clocks. Did AMD remove or add something that penalizes Powerpoint going from Zen 4 to 5? I don’t remember AMD saying that Zen 4 had Powerpoint accelerators that were removed in Zen 5. Right off the bat this result should have been questioned.

#21

codex5600x

If 9800x3d come with really 20% improvement is wow

#22

AusWolf

gffermari9800X3D, like 7800X3D and 5800X3D, is not meant to perform well for productivity. All of them are worthless in productivity tasks compared to any other processor in the same price.

The 7800X3D performs 5% worse in Cinebench R23 at 80 W than the 7700X at 142 W. I wouldn't call that worthless.

#23

terroralpha

AusWolfThe 7800X3D performs 5% worse in Cinebench R23 at 80 W than the 7700X at 142 W. I wouldn't call that worthless.

it helps if you read the ENTIRE sentence before replying. 7800X3D and 7700X are NOT the same price. 7800X3D sold for more money than the 7900X in the past, a 12 core part, and right now it's selling for more than the 16 core 7950x.

they are 100%, 7800X3d is stupid for productivity when comparing CPUs of THE SAME PRICE.

#24

AusWolf

terroralphait helps if you read the ENTIRE sentence before replying. 7800X3D and 7700X are NOT the same price. 7800X3D sold for more money than the 7900X in the past, a 12 core part, and right now it's selling for more than the 16 core 7950x.

they are 100%, 7800X3d is stupid for productivity when comparing CPUs of THE SAME PRICE.

I stand corrected. Sure, if productivity is your main goal, a 7900X is a better choice. I'd also say that it doesn't leave much to be desired on the gaming front, either. To see X3D at its maximum potential, you need a 4090 and some low resolution monitor, which is not a combination that you'll find often.

#25

SL2

The 7800X3D can only be a stupid choice if cherrypicking benchmarks, even at the same price.

There are a quite a few benchmarks in reviews where the difference is small. That's not to say the 7800X3D is a better choice for productivity, just that it's not universally "100% stupid".

One cannot simply look at rendering as a universal benchmark for productivity as a whole. Sure, the 7950X is over 100% faster in rendering, but still only 36% faster overall.
Remove those rendering numbers from the average productivity score, since you're using a GPU for rendering anyway, and the lead gets even smaller.

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