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AMD Introduces Next-Generation AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D Processor, $479, Nov 7

Today, AMD unveiled new desktop computing products, delivering enhanced performance for gamers. The lineup features the new AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D Desktop processor, based on the "Zen 5" architecture and utilizing 2nd Gen AMD 3D V-Cache technology.

With the AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D processor, AMD has re-engineered its cutting-edge on-chip memory solution with 2nd Gen AMD 3D V-Cache technology. The 64 MB cache memory has been relocated below the processor, which puts the core complex die (CCD) closer to the cooling solution to help keep the "Zen 5" cores cooler, delivering high clock rates and providing up to an average 8% gaming performance improvement compared to our last-gen generation and up to an average 20% faster than the competition. This revolutionary change in placement allows for extreme overclocking of the processor. It's the first X3D processor to be fully unlocked, empowering enthusiasts and gamers to push its performance to new limits.
"We continue to push the boundaries of performance and innovation in desktop computing, delivering solutions that exceed the needs of gamers and creators alike," said Jack Huynh, senior vice president and general manager, computing and graphics, AMD. "With the introduction of the Ryzen 7 9800X3D processor, built on our advanced 'Zen 5' architecture, we are elevating gaming performance like never before. Featuring innovative 2nd AMD Gen 3D V-Cache technology, this processor reflects our commitment to excellence and our ability to innovate in ways that redefine the industry."

Delivering Performance for Gamers
Combined with the advanced "Zen 5" processor architecture, the AMD 3D V-Cache technology works to attain the highest processor gaming performance on the market. While the generational uplift in average FPS is about 8%, many games such as Star Wars Outlaws will experience double-digit percentage improvements generationally. What's more, the Ryzen 7 9800X3D processor can demonstrate substantial generational improvements in minimum frame rates even when average frame rates are similar, providing the user with an experience that feels smoother, with less stutter - for instance, in The Last Of Us: Part 1, where the Ryzen 7 9800X3D has a similar average frame rate compared to the competition, but a 31% higher 1% low frame rate.

Introducing the Ryzen 7 9800X3D Desktop Processor
The Ryzen 7 9800X3D is the ultimate solution for the PC gaming market, with eight high-performance "Zen 5" processor cores and 16 processing threads ready to make quick work of gaming and productivity tasks. 4.7 GHz base clock speed is combined with a 5.2 GHz max boost clock, and these represent the highest clock speeds ever on an X3D chiplet. A hearty 120 W TDP and its huge 104 MB of total cache provides the processor with the power it needs to perform.
  • Model: AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D
  • Cores / Threads: 8C/16T
  • Boost / Base Frequency: Up to 5.2 / 4.7 GHz
  • Total Cache: 104 MB
  • TDP: 120 W
  • SEP (USD): $479

Partnering with Game Developers
"We're thrilled to team up with AMD as the exclusive CPU, GPU, and APU partner for Call of Duty. The Ryzen 7 9800X3D processor's exceptional performance and efficiency will elevate the gaming experience to new heights, ensuring our players enjoy unparalleled gameplay. This partnership marks a significant milestone for Call of Duty and AMD, and we're excited to see what we can achieve together," said William Gahagan, senior director, global partnerships at Activision.

"We've been so thrilled to collaborate with AMD on Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine 2," said Tim Willits, chief creative officer, Saber Interactive. " The power and innovation of AMD's Ryzen 7 9800X3D processor has allowed us to push the boundaries of what's possible, delivering an unparalleled gaming experience. Having faster high-performance hardware is always exciting to us because it means we have more power to deliver more innovation, better immersion, and more fun."

"Our long-standing partnership with AMD has been instrumental in bringing our most ambitious game design ideas to life," said Szymon Jabłoński, technical director, 11 bit Studios. "Without the support of AMD, groundbreaking titles like Frostpunk 2 and the upcoming sci-fi epic The Alters may not have been possible. Now, the Ryzen 7 9800X3D processor's power and efficiency allow us to push the boundaries of what is possible in gaming. With AMD as our exclusive CPU, GPU, and APU partner, we can create immersive worlds and intricate gameplay that our players have come to love. We look forward to continuing this journey with AMD and seeing where our combined innovations can take us."
Source: AMD
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124 Comments on AMD Introduces Next-Generation AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D Processor, $479, Nov 7

#51
RootinTootinPootin
Vayra86Its about 5% more and it'll matter just about as much. Not very relevant - I'll take stellar efficiency then.
ever since I used a desktop efficiency/power saving wasn't really an issue for me, personally, as long as it still scales and produces results, the better, cooling also isn't an issue for me since I water cool my stuff.
MakaveliI believe that is 5.2Ghz prior to PBO so you maybe adding another 200mhz to that.
if it makes 5.7ghz the better for me personally. I can just imagine the the 9950X3D being a total monster if they (AMD) allows a wide range of OC options now..
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#52
Redwoodz
xSneakI will be polite and say that was one of the first dual core cpus ever released for the consumer market. The equivalent today would be if the 9800x3d was a 32 core / 64 thread cpu.
Pentium D came out prior but those cpus were really junk.
Nah, that's not it.
www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel,751-8.html
Single core P4 EE in 2004 msrp $ 999
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#53
nvidiaenjoyer
QuicksYou just have too much faith in people and it's known X3D chips are sensitive to voltage when overclocking what do you think is going to happen.
fud and misinfo
they were "sensitive" to SOC voltage when motherboard manufacturers in their infinite wisdom pumped like 1.5v SOC volts into it when the max safe is 1.3
my 7800x3d runs at 105 eclk for an effective 5.3ghz, seldom uses more than 50w in games, and puts out chart topping performance in games
voltage-sensitive my ass, if that was the case you'd see 7800x3d's dying left and right
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#54
Nostras
Bit of a shame. Intel shat itself so hard AMD can now start to raise the prices more and more. Even more so now that the 7800X3D became very expensive again.
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#55
AusWolf
+8%... Probably with a 4090 at 1080p low.

Not to mention the 8% increase in MSRP.
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#56
phanbuey
B860 + 9950X3D could look good, or just wait to 10800X3D or whatever they're going to call zen 6
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#57
Hyderz
Those buying this cpu is gonna pair it with a 5090… guaranteed
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#58
londiste
Total Cache: 104 MB
Why is AMD still publishing the total cache number?

Edit:
Out of curiosity, looked at the TPU review of 285K - by same method that thing has 76MB cache :D
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#59
ModEl4
$480 lol.On the other hand, excellent presentation, I guess it was a given since back in the day Jack Huynh was the voice of Kim Jong Il in Team America, if I'm not mistaken.
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#60
Makaveli
HyderzThose buying this cpu is gonna pair it with a 5090… guaranteed
I'm buying this and using a 7900 XTX :cool:
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#61
Visible Noise
ThomasKPeople either have short memory or were in their infancy when Intel used to charge 1k for their top of the line gaming CPU, in the good old LGA-775 days.

AMD is charging less than half as much, even after inflation, for a CPU that's designed for gamers.

If you're not gaming, then just don't buy it.
So it’s ok for AMD to screw over gamers because reasons.
NostrasBit of a shame. Intel shat itself so hard AMD can now start to raise the prices more and more. Even more so now that the 7800X3D became very expensive again.
AMDs prices are not Intels fault. They are the fault of people like you that thought AMD was your freind.
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#62
AusWolf
Visible NoiseSo it’s ok for AMD to screw over gamers because reasons.



AMDs prices are not Intels fault. They are the fault of people like you that thought AMD was your freind.
I love it when people already on high-end systems cry that the new generation isn't worth spending their hard-earned money on. :laugh:
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#63
PaddieMayne
Well as long as the reviews come out good as in runs cooler, better performance and more power efficiency when playing games, then I will be handing down my 7800x3d setup to my son which in turn means the wife will get his 5800x3d setup....so everyone gets an upgrade.

Looking forward to the 9800x3d.
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#64
Mr_Engineer
The 9800X3D will be a better all rounded CPU compared to the 7800X3D.

Yes 8% faster in gaming is not that much, but it will probably be 15-20% faster in productivity, which was a weakness area of the 7800X3D.
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#65
londiste
Mr_EngineerThe 9800X3D will be a better all rounded CPU compared to the 7800X3D.
Yes 8% faster in gaming is not that much, but it will probably be 15-20% faster in productivity, which was a weakness area of the 7800X3D.
One has to wonder what the power efficiency will be like. Despite TDP and power limit specs, 7800X3D basically has a limit at 76W. So far it looks like 9800X3D has that raised considerably.
I guess 7800X3D higher prices these days hint at something being not quite right as well.
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#66
AusWolf
Mr_EngineerThe 9800X3D will be a better all rounded CPU compared to the 7800X3D.

Yes 8% faster in gaming is not that much, but it will probably be 15-20% faster in productivity, which was a weakness area of the 7800X3D.
It depends on how you look at it. I, personally, don't give a damn about productivity, so the 9800X3D doesn't seem that interesting to me.

Edit: Speaking of... Why do you think the 9800X3D will be 15-20% better in productivity? It's not what we see with the 9700X vs the 7700X.
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#67
umeng2002
Not bad. I paid full $450 retail for a 5800X in early 2021. Don't expect AMD to feel any pressure to lower prices when Intel's gaming performance is going backwards.
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#68
BoggledBeagle
Mr_EngineerYes 8% faster in gaming is not that much, but it will probably be 15-20% faster in productivity, which was a weakness area of the 7800X3D.
The amount of productive work that can be done with 8 cores will be always pretty limited. 14700K and 265K, which are direct price competitors from Intel, have 20 cores.
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#69
3DVCash
Back in 2011, I bought an i7 2600K for ~$320 USD. Plugging that into an inflation calculator and that comes to just under $460 USD today...

This price seems pretty par for the course really. If anything, the steep discounts on the 7800X3D spoiled people. Now that Intel has shown it can't fight back at all... I wouldn't expect to see those again.
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#70
woodysyp
9800x3d prices 3699CNY in JD.cn(CHINA) has already been fully booked!
i hate intel!
9800x3d will not make such a price and last gen 7800x3d price will not increase so much to 2899CNY,without the problems happened in intel's 13th\14th cpus!
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#71
_roman_
BoggledBeagleThe amount productive work that can be done with 8 cores will be always pretty limited. 14700K and 265K, which are direct price competitors from Intel, have 20 cores.
I do not know the instruction set of the E-Cores. I assume those E-Cores are still limited and can not run the same code as the P-Cores. I assume Intel does not support AVX-512 which my software needs. The overhead or the software support for the mix Cores should be also considered. Even after 2 or more years with those processors on the market these problems still exists.

AMD has the same problem with different chiplet processors in certain Windows 11 scenarios. At least both chiplets support all the cpu instructions.

So comparing a windows 11 only processor with a generic processor sometimes do not make any sense.
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#72
mb194dc
Mr_EngineerThe 9800X3D will be a better all rounded CPU compared to the 7800X3D.

Yes 8% faster in gaming is not that much, but it will probably be 15-20% faster in productivity, which was a weakness area of the 7800X3D.
% are meaningless if it's in use cases no one in the real world does. Eg 720 or 1080p with a 4090.

Ditto productivity, few do enough so that the seconds saved actually make a difference to their work day.

A cpu from the last few generations will do the same job. Only edge cases need bother upgrade now.

It's stagnation, Intel showed it with their release. Improvements to main stream use cases from new CPU generations are now largely over.
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#73
Mr_Engineer
AusWolfIt depends on how you look at it. I, personally, don't give a damn about productivity, so the 9800X3D doesn't seem that interesting to me.

Edit: Speaking of... Why do you think the 9800X3D will be 15-20% better in productivity? It's not what we see with the 9700X vs the 7700X.
The 9700x is running at 65w compared to the 7700x which runs at 105w.

When 9700x was later tested at 105w and with the Windows 11 24H2 performance fix, it easily gained 5-15% in both games and productivity.

The 9800x3D will be a 120w CPU, the same as the 7800x3D, but will run with 5-10% higher clocks (unlike the 9700x which ran at lower clocks compared to 7700x)
mb194dc% are meaningless if it's in use cases no one in the real world does. Eg 720 or 1080p with a 4090.

Ditto productivity, few do enough so that the seconds saved actually make a difference to their work day.

A cpu from the last few generations will do the same job. Only edge cases need bother upgrade now.

It's stagnation, Intel showed it with their release. Improvements to main stream use cases from new CPU generations are now largely over.
Agreed. At 2K and especially 4K resolutions most of the CPUs will have similar FPS, that's where 1% lows become more important and reviewers should focus on more.
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#74
FoulOnWhite
OH MY, it's the second coming, the saviour is reborn.
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#75
londiste
Mr_EngineerThe 9700x is running at 65w compared to the 7700x which runs at 105w.
When 9700x was later tested at 105w and with the Windows 11 24H2 performance fix, it easily gained 5-15% in both games and productivity.

The 9800x3D will be a 120w CPU, the same as the 7800x3D, but will run with 5-10% higher clocks (unlike the 9700x which ran at lower clocks compared to 7700x)
9700X is running at ~85w, assuming 105W is an actual power limit it is 23% power increase for 5-15% gains. If 105W is a TDP the power increase is (much) more. I really hope the results you refer to were not with the change over to 24H2. If that is the case then the improvement was really negligible.

7800X3D has a 76W power limit. what 9800X3D actually consumes remains to be seen, we will see that from reviews.
Mr_EngineerAgreed. At 2K and especially 4K resolutions most of the CPUs will have similar FPS, that's where 1% lows become more important and reviewers should focus on more.
The problem is that in most cases 1% lows scale to the same things as averages - more cores, more frequency and more cache helps.
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