Friday, December 13th 2024

Thermal Grizzly Launches New Thermal Putty Gap Fillers in Three Different Versions

Thermal Grizzly's Thermal Putty offers a premium alternative to traditional thermal pads. It is electrically non-conductive, easy to apply, and functions as a flexible gap filler that compensates for height differences. This makes it an ideal replacement for thermal pads in graphics cards. Graphics cards are typically equipped with thermal pads of varying heights from the factory. When replacing these pads or upgrading to a GPU water cooler, matching replacement pads are necessary.

TG Thermal Putty can compensate for height differences from 0.2 to 3.0 mm, making it a versatile solution. Thermal Putty can be applied in two ways. Firstly, it can be applied over large areas using the included spatulas. Alternatively, it can be applied manually (gloves are recommended). When applied by hand, small beads can be shaped to fit the specific contact surfaces (e.g., VRAM, SMD).
TG Thermal Putty is available in three variants, primarily differing in thermal conductivity:
  • Putty Basic with medium thermal conductivity.
  • Putty Advance with good thermal conductivity.
  • Putty Pro with excellent thermal conductivity.
Thermal Putty is an electrically non-conductive alternative to traditional thermal pads, specifically designed for GPU modifications and the replacement of thermal pads between the PCB and the cooler.
Source: Thermal Grizzly
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14 Comments on Thermal Grizzly Launches New Thermal Putty Gap Fillers in Three Different Versions

#1
Space Lynx
Astronaut
this is a great idea, i have always hated those crappy thermal pads on gpu drying out and crumbling. and this gives more flexibility in room for error in measurements
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#2
Asni
This guy is probably going to test these new thermal interfaces.
Upsiren UTP-8 is inexpensive and works like a charm.
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#3
Snarks Domain
AsniThis guy is probably going to test these new thermal interfaces.
Upsiren UTP-8 is inexpensive and works like a charm.
Heh, thanks for the shout out. I will definitely buy some to test. This is super exciting, and somethig I've been hoping would happen. It's going to be a great educational catalyst. I'm pretty stoked. The price can always change in the future.
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#4
Ferrum Master
I would not advise it putting in PC where it stands vertical, because it simply slides down.

It is ok for laptops, it stands horizontal, but not so much for MB VRM, nvme, and vertical mounted GPUs, keep that in mind.

Get yourself a large syringe and use the spatula to fill it, not smear it like 3y old child on the kitchen wall, then you apply this as a toothpaste on a brush. It looks people have no experience with it.

The performance is mediocre, but you can apply it much more and fill the gaps, so it evens out.
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#5
Snarks Domain
Ferrum MasterI would not advise it putting in PC where it stands vertical, because it simply slides down.

It is ok for laptops, it stands horizontal, but not so much for MB VRM, nvme, and vertical mounted GPUs, keep that in mind.

Get yourself a large syringe and use the spatula to fill it, not smear it like 3y old child on the kitchen wall, then you apply this as a toothpaste on a brush. It looks people have no experience with it.

The performance is mediocre, but you can apply it much more and fill the gaps, so it evens out.
Good putties aren't runny at all, and actually outperform traditional pads, both in raw performance and also compressibility, allowing for much better contact pressure on the die, which helps get those ultra thin layers of Phase Change Material once it melts.

I like rolling it by hand (Nitrile gloves). I haven't experienced it sliding down as you suggest. It's important to clean the surfaces with 99% Isopropyl to remove any residual oils from the previous pads/putty before applying new stuff.
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ZoneDymo
TG Thermal Putty is available in three variants, primarily differing in thermal conductivity:
  • Putty Basic with medium thermal conductivity.
  • Putty Advance with good thermal conductivity.
  • Putty Pro with excellent thermal conductivity.
Kinda reminds me of James May's cheese analogy when talking about ferrari.
Why would they make intentionally worse past and sell it?

Like unless it has some other advantage, maybe its mroe robust and lasts longer...but its simply worse? WHY EVEN MAKE IT THEN?
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Snarks Domain
Ferrum MasterI would not advise it putting in PC where it stands vertical, because it simply slides down.

It is ok for laptops, it stands horizontal, but not so much for MB VRM, nvme, and vertical mounted GPUs, keep that in mind.

Get yourself a large syringe and use the spatula to fill it, not smear it like 3y old child on the kitchen wall, then you apply this as a toothpaste on a brush. It looks people have no experience with it.

The performance is mediocre, but you can apply it much more and fill the gaps, so it evens out.
Good putries aren't runny at all, and actually outperform traditional pads, both in raw performance and also compressibility, allowing for much better co tact pressure on the die.

This is how I like to apply it, rolling by hand. I haven't experienced it sliding down as you suggest. It's important to clean the surfaces with 99% Isopropyl to remove any residual oils from the previous s/putty before applying new stuff.

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Snarks Domain
ZoneDymoTG Thermal Putty is available in three variants, primarily differing in thermal conductivity:
  • Putty Basic with medium thermal conductivity.
  • Putty Advance with good thermal conductivity.
  • Putty Pro with excellent thermal conductivity.
Kinda reminds me of James May's cheese analogy when talking about ferrari.
Why would they make intentionally worse past and sell it?

Like unless it has some other advantage, maybe its mroe robust and lasts longer...but its simply worse? WHY EVEN MAKE IT THEN?
Some putties are maxed out, or close to it, and use densifivstion, incorporating larger particle sizes, who've cuts down o. The amount of Silicone oil by volume. This can make them look/feel gritty, but potentially still quite soft (depending on other factors). This can may it difficult to compress down as thin as other, non maxed out, putties.



The best example of this is Upsiren UTP-8 only being able to get d9wn to ~0.15mm, whereas Halnziye HY2X6 (236, 246, 256, etc. Just different colours), can compress down to ~0.1mm (pr potentially a bit thinner even). This makes Halnziye HY2X6 putties to current go to for use with shims and also in laptops with very thin gaps. On the other hand, if you have gap sizes over 0.5mm then either Upsiren UTP-8, Fehonda LTP81 or Honeywell HT10000 would be my current recomendations (Subjust to possibke change once I test these 3 putties from TG).
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#9
eidairaman1
The Exiled Airman
I will just use a gap/feeler gauge for gpu die/ram mounts
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#11
Ferrum Master
Snarks DomainGood putries aren't runny at all, and actually outperform traditional pads, both in raw performance and also compressibility, allowing for much better co tact pressure on the die.
You arguing with person who does use them daily at work. Gravity isn't being cancelled where I live either.

Do not use it for vertical mounted devices.
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Snarks Domain
Ferrum MasterYou arguing with person who does use them daily at work. Gravity isn't being cancelled where I live either.

Do not use it for vertical mounted devices.
I don't intend to discount yiur experience. I can only speak from my own experience and testing of Thermal Putties. I've been using and testing them for the last 3 years and I've currently got various putties in a couple dozen GPU's that are all mounted vertically, well except for 1 GPU that is horizontally.

Not once have I seen a putty fall out due to gravity. The few dozen putties I've tested have all managed to maintain contact with the VRAM and heatsink during testing, except for a couple putties that offgassed and formed their own air bubbles.

I haven't done long term testing on the lower performing putties, other than TG-PP10 of course. But I've done longer testing/use of several of the putties at the top of the chart and putty falling out due to gravity is not even on the radar for me.

Edit: I suppose in addition to my own experience with putties there are other points to keep in mind. Every Playstation 5 has putty and many of them are used in vertical orientation. Most of the EVGA 30 series Videocards have putty on the coils, and a decent percentage of thise would be in vertical orientation as well. Putty falling off due to gravity has not been a significant issue (or maybe at all).

It's important to keep in mind that we aren't using putty as an adhesive to hold things onto something, they are merely a thermal gap filler, so all the mounting hardware is still needed to hold the device together.
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#13
Ferrum Master
Snarks DomainI've been using and testing them for the last 3 years and I've currently got various putties in a couple dozen GPU's that are all mounted vertically, well except for 1 GPU that is horizontally.
I literary have used few buckets of putty as I work in RMA and service electronics, thus I see the results of using it in amounts you cannot imagine those are thousands of units. Including factory and serviced afterwards as I see repair history being an official. Long story short, you cannot put it anywhere you think and anything you want you saw on youtube should work better.

You can do what you want in your private ventures, but professionals do follow simple instructions made by engineers who did calculations, based also on mechanical properties, devices like some laptops twist and bend like cloth and is designed to do so. Well you may make some before after videos, but that doesn't apply for all people who has different device usage patterns, and screwing around with different flowrate/viscosity material, that's your own buisness.

In practice taking apart older devices, there are some place prone to driping down or migration, due to age or wrong compression ratio versus the surface area, some of this contributed to loads of burnt VRAM ICs for certrain board models, and those always were the same modules at one side. So be careful what you recommend really. We've had some dead GPUs where putty was put on VRAM modules, not sure what it was, most propbably some Aliexpress stuff, but the thing is, it was used vertically and the putty slid down, so the thing definetly happens as some damaged devices end up in my RMA chain.
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Snarks Domain
Ferrum MasterI literary have used few buckets of putty as I work in RMA and service electronics, thus I see the results of using it in amounts you cannot imagine those are thousands of units. Including factory and serviced afterwards as I see repair history being an official. Long story short, you cannot put it anywhere you think and anything you want you saw on youtube should work better.

You can do what you want in your private ventures, but professionals do follow simple instructions made by engineers who did calculations, based also on mechanical properties, devices like some laptops twist and bend like cloth and is designed to do so. Well you may make some before after videos, but that doesn't apply for all people who has different device usage patterns, and screwing around with different flowrate/viscosity material, that's your own buisness.

In practice taking apart older devices, there are some place prone to driping down or migration, due to age or wrong compression ratio versus the surface area, some of this contributed to loads of burnt VRAM ICs for certrain board models, and those always were the same modules at one side. So be careful what you recommend really. We've had some dead GPUs where putty was put on VRAM modules, not sure what it was, most propbably some Aliexpress stuff, but the thing is, it was used vertically and the putty slid down, so the thing definetly happens as some damaged devices end up in my RMA chain.
I appreciate your perspective on the matter. I'm very curious which putties you've used. Would you care to comment on that? Specifically the ones you have buckets of.

I currently recommend Honeywell HT10000, Upsiren UTP-8, Fehonda LTP81, Laird T-Putty 607/910, and Halnziye HY236.

My regular format videos are somewhat limited in their scope. My Live streams are there if you feel like diving into it further.

That we may have a difference of opinion on this matter is understandable and happens sometimes on the internet. Perhaps we can both learn from one another and expand our knowledge and understanding.
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