Sunday, December 22nd 2024

AMD Radeon "RX 8800 XT" is Actually the RX 9070 XT?

It turns out that the Radeon RX 8800 XT, the top SKU in AMD's next generation gaming GPU series, is actually named the Radeon RX 9070 XT. European computer hardware retailer may have leaked the name, along with that of the Radeon RX 9070 (non-XT), ahead of its January 2025 reveal. The two cards appeared in the store's search filters, where it was screengrabbed by enthusiasts. The RX 9070 XT is what was supposed to be the RX 8800 XT; while the RX 9070 is the RX 8800. Extrapolating this, the series could include the RX 9060 series, the RX 9050 series, and the RX 9040 series, says All The Watts.

What prompted this change in nomenclature probably has to do with the company's decision to withdraw from the enthusiast segment of gaming GPUs. While the RX 9070 XT technically succeeds the RX 7800 XT, a performance-segment, 1440p-class SKU, the company wouldn't want its product stack to have a "void" left by the lack of an "RX 8900 series." The company also took the opportunity to skip the RX 8000 series altogether, which probably give it room to rebadge some SKUs from the RX 7000 series over to the RX 8000 series. The RX 9070 XT and RX 9070 are based on the "Navi 48" silicon, and implement the RDNA 4 graphics architecture.
Sources: momomo_us (Twitter), All The Watts (Twitter)
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55 Comments on AMD Radeon "RX 8800 XT" is Actually the RX 9070 XT?

#27
mb194dc
Nvidia is seemingly planning a tiny uplift in the midange as well. Only 6% more shaders on 5070ti rumoured.

Technological progress is dead pretty much...

Both these ultra arrogant businesses think they can pivot to being compute / data centre focused businesses. Rinsing consumers...

They'd better hope better use cases emerge for their data centre products, or possible it could end very badly.
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#28
dyonoctis
Sabotaged_EnigmaBad naming as usual...
It kind of made sense when they named RDNA the RX 5000 series because of 50th Anniversary. This time what's the point again? Copying opponents' (both Intel and Nvidia) naming doesn't make it competitive.
Justifying the naming rebrand when UDNA will launch. ( Reset after 9000)
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#29
N/A
mb194dcNvidia is seemingly planning a tiny uplift in the midange as well. Only 6% more shaders on 5070ti rumoured.

Technological progress is dead pretty much...
Nvidia is seemengly delivering. 60% more Rops, 33%+64 bit bandwidth and 16.6% Shaders. that's a lot. and what did AMD do. glorified 7800XT and it better be good.
The speed increase of 5070 Ti compared to vanilla 4070 Ti, not with super. is almost the same as with 5090 if not more. its 60% overall at least. depending what the game engine needs.
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#30
john_
They will align CPU naming with GPU naming, while at the same time they will copy the Nvidia naming.
From a marketing perspective I think it is a good idea.
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#31
Broken Processor
Change the logo back to green and call it RX9070T there that's bound to confuse some buyers into thinking it's another brands highest tier product.
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#32
3valatzy
BabaMarketing dept doesn't want you to compare the 8800XT to 7800XT. This naming makes so little sense. They could have waited until their UDNA architecture is out to make a completely new naming scheme. Start with 1xxx again.

Apple is keeping it simple for consumers. They start with 1 and add 1. Is this rocket science AMD?
Yup, this will be the 25th generation ATi - AMD graphics, so the proper name is Radeon RX 25700X.
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#33
Neo_Morpheus
3valatzyYup, this will be the 25th generation ATi - AMD graphics, so the proper name is Radeon RX 25700X.
You know what, I would be absolutely ok if they did that kind of naming convection.
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#34
Dr. Dro
Neo_MorpheusYou know what, I would be absolutely ok if they did that kind of naming convection.
At least it makes sense, unlike... whatever the hell this is.
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#35
TheDeeGee
Chomiq"5090? We got 9070"
But it's the performance of a 970 ^^
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#36
napata
DavenIf true, model naming realignments typically mean a break from comparisons with previous generations. Conservatively, a next generation beats the current generation by up to 30%. Therefore, a hypothetical 8800XT would have succeeded the 7800XT and have up to 30% more performance putting it around the 7900XT. But now it looks like AMD wants us to compare the next generation to Nvidia model numbers instead. That would mean a hypothetical 9070XT would be equivalent to the upcoming 5070Ti. The 5070Ti should have at least 30% more performance than the 4070Ti putting it around the 7900XTX/4080/4080 Super.

Taking everything into consideration, the 9070XT could be sub-$500, sub-300W and have the same performance as a 7900XTX and 4080 series. AMD would then be competing with Nvidia's next generation all the way up to the 5070Ti. That's a little better than being just a 7800XT successor especially if AMD matches Nvidia's RT performance as well.
You guys are setting yourself up for dissapointment. The leaks today also said $449-649 for N48 with top end below 7900XT. Now price will depend on what Nvidia does but performance leaks over the past year have been pretty consistent.
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#37
Hecate91
napataYou guys are setting yourself up for dissapointment. The leaks today also said $449-649 for N48 with top end below 7900XT. Now price will depend on what Nvidia does but performance leaks over the past year have been pretty consistent.
Source? The leaks I've seen claim 7900XT performance with improved RT, lower TDP for less than $600 msrp.
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#38
3valatzy
Hecate91Source?


Makes you wonder why the integrated is 8060, while the desktop is 9070, and what the performance difference between them will be.

This name is to hide the epic fail that the card will be - just barely better than RX 7800 XT.

Very weird why they went to design an integrated GPU as fast as RX 7600, but the desktop discrete range will be so underperforming.
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#39
leonavis
3valatzyVery weird why they went to design an integrated GPU as fast as RX 7600, but the desktop discrete range will be so underperforming.
Well, no. The discrete GPU business barely supports itself in terms of profit, so it's natural AMD stopped delivering High-End. The customer doesn't want AMD-GPUs. Why would they waste ressources?
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#40
Hecate91
3valatzy

Makes you wonder why the integrated is 8060, while the desktop is 9070, and what the performance difference between them will be.

This name is to hide the epic fail that the card will be - just barely better than RX 7800 XT.

Very weird why they went to design an integrated GPU as fast as RX 7600, but the desktop discrete range will be so underperforming.
Leaks and rumors are fun, but I have a hard time trusting twitter leak posts.
I don't think its weird at all, faster iGPU and low end to mid range is what most people will be buying, the tech press and consumers want nvidia, it doesn't make sense for AMD to spend R&D on high end if it won't sell.
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#41
3valatzy
leonavisWell, no. The discrete GPU business barely supports itself in terms of profit, so it's natural AMD stopped delivering High-End. The customer doesn't want AMD-GPUs. Why would they waste ressources?
I guess it will be much easier for them to sell those 8060s, but the thing is those are ultra-high-end laptops.
They need a six core Strix something with that 40 CUs GPU. It will sell in more laptops.
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#42
RaceT3ch
Can't they just sort out a semi-normal naming system like with Ryzen?
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#43
Marcus L
3valatzy

Makes you wonder why the integrated is 8060, while the desktop is 9070, and what the performance difference between them will be.

This name is to hide the epic fail that the card will be - just barely better than RX 7800 XT.

Very weird why they went to design an integrated GPU as fast as RX 7600, but the desktop discrete range will be so underperforming.
oh some random cobbled fud you have put together, I believe you now :laugh:
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#44
Krit
napataYou guys are setting yourself up for dissapointment. The leaks today also said $449-649 for N48 with top end below 7900XT. Now price will depend on what Nvidia does but performance leaks over the past year have been pretty consistent.
RX 7900 GRE performance for the same ~550€ price does not make any sense at all. It's not upgrade it's sidegrade. If it's true RIP amd!

RX 7800 XT already was kinda weak if compare to RX 6800 XT no performance gains at all! If next gen will be another small performance increase for the same or higher price it will be end.
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#45
Darmok N Jalad
I dunno, before the RX era, we had cards like the 3850, 4870, 5870, etc. Now they're dropping the 8 out of there, so it's kinda half old, half new. Besides, AMD has reached the end of the model numbers again. I suppose they'll abandon RX for something new this time? What AI?
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#46
Punkenjoy
KritRX 7900 GRE performance for the same ~550€ price does not make any sense at all. It's not upgrade it's sidegrade. If it's true RIP amd!

RX 7800 XT already was kinda weak if compare to RX 6800 XT no performance gains at all! If next gen will be another small performance increase for the same or higher price it will be end.
Well RIP? not sure, rumours seems to point in a direction where Nvidia wouldn't move much the needle for price/performance in next gen. You might get more performance, but that will cost more.

Look like only Intel is trying to move that with Battlemage.
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#47
3valatzy
PunkenjoyWell RIP?
A third generation with virtually non-existent performance gains. RX 6800 XT -> RX 7800 XT -> RX 9070 XT.
I guess people will be happy to not spend on a "new" pretty expensive graphics card.
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#48
Dr. Dro
3valatzy

Makes you wonder why the integrated is 8060, while the desktop is 9070, and what the performance difference between them will be.

This name is to hide the epic fail that the card will be - just barely better than RX 7800 XT.

Very weird why they went to design an integrated GPU as fast as RX 7600, but the desktop discrete range will be so underperforming.
Not gonna lie, $611 is a pretty good price for a 6950 XT
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#49
Dahita
I'm waiting for the RTXX 12020 XTXX Special X edition, which should come in three months seeing how fast they're moving forward with the nomenclature.
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#50
Fouquin
3valatzyThey have poorly working brains. Zen 5 is Ryzen 7, Zen 4 is Ryzen 6. Their names are a mess.
Architecture generation versus product generation. Zen 4 is the fourth generation architecture, Zen 5 is the fifth generation architecture. The product names are never consistent with architecture or else Intel's "14th Gen" would actually be 5th gen (Sandy/Ivy, Haswell/Devil's Canyon/Broadwell, Skylake/Kaby/Coffee/Comet/Cascade Lake, Ice/Rocket/Tiger Lake, Alder/Raptor Lake).
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